105th St KK QJ JJ J Posted February 11, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 11, 2011 A simple question I've wondered about since joining this board...In your Opinion,Which looked better on the R32's and R38's ? Pre-GOH Rolling Front Route Signs: . . . or the Post GOH LED's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted February 11, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 11, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted February 11, 2011 Share #3 Posted February 11, 2011 The Pre-GOH. They look cool. And they're informative.B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainStreetBound7 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #4 Posted February 12, 2011 Gotta go with the Pre-GOH the R38's fit them nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted February 12, 2011 Share #5 Posted February 12, 2011 definitely pre-goh....when they were overhauled they should have just updated the signs to the 1980's colors and fonts and kept them the way they were (they left the side rollsigns alone...idk who's idea it was to change the front) Those single "cyclops" signs they replaced them with look terrible and some find them to be illegible as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted February 12, 2011 Share #6 Posted February 12, 2011 The pre GOH cars would've looked nice if everything was left intact, with the flipdot sign replacing the letter rollsigns. Maybe I misread, but everything was replaced with the lone flipdot sign during overhaul so AC's could be installed on the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 12, 2011 Share #7 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre-GOH for the ultimate win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #8 Posted February 12, 2011 you can put as many thumbs down on My Opinion as you want, but I go with Post GOH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #9 Posted February 12, 2011 @4P3607: It's your opinion; if other folks don't like it, it's their problem. With that said, I also prefer the pre-GOH cars because in my opinion, they looked better (when they weren't covered in graffiti). Yes, I know that they didn't run well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #10 Posted February 12, 2011 Def pre GOH, I would go with Pre GOH for pretty much all the B div cars that got em! IRT, eh, they looked like an mess pre GOH so I don't even know what to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted February 12, 2011 Share #11 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre-GOH! R38s for life! Best cars ever imo! Riding those bad boys on the fulton exp was a killer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #12 Posted February 12, 2011 R38 Pre-GOH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 12, 2011 Share #13 Posted February 12, 2011 I wonder why they completely covered the rollsign and local/express lights on the R32, but just put sheets of metal over the lights and rollsign on the R38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted February 12, 2011 Share #14 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre-GOH for both the R32s and R38s. Both fleets had their looks ruined during GOH. It's like Michael Jackson pre- versus post-surgery. The flipdots were very difficult to see from even just a short distance. They were worse than the rollsigns. Getting rid of the straps was also a really bad idea, especially on the R32s whose grab bars do not go all the way to the doorways. When they GOH'ed the R26/28/29/33/36 cars into the Redbirds, they didn't completely gut the interiors and replace the front rollsigns and marker lights with a tiny illegible flipdot sign. Why did that have to be done with the R32s and R38? And why couldn't they have left the blue doors on the 32s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 12, 2011 Share #15 Posted February 12, 2011 Also PRE-GOH. Count me among those who don't find the flipdots particularly legible. The end signs on the R142/143/160 are much better, but I'm really going to miss the giant colored bullets on the 40-68s if the trend continues and they get phased out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 12, 2011 Share #16 Posted February 12, 2011 I wonder why they completely covered the rollsign and local/express lights on the R32, but just put sheets of metal over the lights and rollsign on the R38. The setup of the car fronts was different. The R32 needed a full covering while the R38 was able to get by with the panel; you can see it in the top photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted February 12, 2011 Share #17 Posted February 12, 2011 I'm going to go with pre-GOH since the front sign was more informative and it was easier to read from a far distance. With the post-GOH flipdots, it is harder to distinguish a train until it is right on top of you (i.e. vs or vs ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSideJeff Posted February 12, 2011 Share #18 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre. The pre-GOH front ends look like they'd stood the tests of time - really, how cool would it be to see a train pull in with that full old school pair of signs? The post-GOH R32s may as well be the Stepford Wives of the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 12, 2011 Share #19 Posted February 12, 2011 The pre-GOH cars define the classic NYC subway car bulkhead. The post-GOH cars with only the flipdot sign look incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tram man Posted February 12, 2011 Share #20 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre-GOH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted February 12, 2011 Share #21 Posted February 12, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted February 12, 2011 Share #22 Posted February 12, 2011 Pre. The pre-GOH front ends look like they'd stood the tests of time - really, how cool would it be to see a train pull in with that full old school pair of signs? The post-GOH R32s may as well be the Stepford Wives of the subway. You mean like this? Totally agree with your "Stepford Wives" comment. That is what the post-GOH R32s and R38s are, the "Stepford Wives" trains. I'd give anything to be able to ride an R32 with its pre-GOH front rollsigns, interior and blue doors again. Of course, that's probably not going to happen, unless a train museum has enough money to pay for a restoration of a pair of R32s (or even just one car in the pair to show what they looked like pre- and post-GOH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tram man Posted February 12, 2011 Share #23 Posted February 12, 2011 ...unless a train museum has enough money to pay for a restoration of a pair of R32s (or even just one car in the pair to show what they looked like pre- and post-GOH). That's not a bad idea. Twice the "history" for half the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted February 12, 2011 Share #24 Posted February 12, 2011 Oh really take a look at the R38's when they were new, and just arrived. Looking fresh isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted February 12, 2011 Share #25 Posted February 12, 2011 Sure did. And the last ten R38s (4140-49) had air conditioning units. Unfortunately, I never got to ride pre-GOH R38s, probably because there weren't that many of them (just 200) and they didn't run on the , which was (and unfortunately still is) the only full-time B-Division line that ran in the Bronx. If I'm not mistaken, they were the first B-Division SMEE cars to be sent out for GOH in the late 80s. But looks-wise, I'm more of a fan of the pre-GOH 32s because they were more colorful with their blue front and side doors, although I've seen 80s-era pictures of R38s with blue front doors as well. Here's one from 1982: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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