official Subway - What If?

[Wallyhorse]

NEXT:

Two separate sinkholes have developed near the 125th Street fault line in upper Manhattan:

One between St. Nicholas and Lenox Avenues.

One between Lexington and 3rd Avenue.

The only subway line that far north unaffected by this is the line (as it's elevated on 125) and Metro-North is also unaffected by this (as its also elevated).

This will take a few days to fix.  Reroute/suspend/cross-honor as needed.

 

[P3F]

With the avenues you said, the can still run so...

 

in 2 sections: Woodlawn to 138/Grand and 86 St to Crown Heights as normal.

via from 149/Grand to Nevins St.

in 2 sections: Pelham Bay Pk to 138/3rd and 96 St to Brooklyn Bridge.

Shuttle buses run to (around the sinkhole) 138/Grand, 138/3rd, 125/Lex, 116/Lex, 103/Lex, 96/Lex, and 86/Lex.

 

in 2 sections: 207 St to 145 St via Local and 72 St to Far Rockaway via Exp

runs via to 57 St or Astoria

suspended, use

in 2 sections: 205 St to 145 St via Local and 59 St to Coney Island (Exp in Manhattan)

extended to Lefferts via and

Shuttle buses run from 145 St to 135 St, 125 St, 116 St, 110 St, 103 St, 96 St, 86 St, 81 St, 72 St, and 59 St.

 

Advised to use and MNRR if possible.

[ConcourseExp]

ok, imagine this:

The tunnels that carries the , , in and out of the Bronx and Manhattan, broke and there needed to be service to be put back in service. What would you do to bring back service. I would make the operate over the line, the in two directions from Woodlawn to 149 Street-Grand Concourse and Grand Central-42 Street to Atlantic Aveune, and the whole line will run in a shuttle from Pelham Bay Park to 3 Ave-138 Street. Also there's no local service.

[TrainFanInfinity]

 

A small earthquake (and they do happen up here, even if rarely) catches the MTA off-guard and splashes a bit of water over the city. Coney Island yard and most of the Sea Beach line (up to New Utrecht Avenue) is out of service. Water pushed up the Hudson and East rivers causes minor flooding in the east river tubes south of the bridge crossings.

 

Armed robbers, taking advantage of the panic cause chaos in small pockets of the system with possible deaths/injuries requiring police activity at:

• 207 Street uptown platform
• 170 Street southbound platform
• Chambers Street to Canal Street A man with a paper bag over his head fled into the tunnel after a successful robbery.
• Sutter Avenue tracks An assailant appears to have been chased by his potential victim into the tracks and electrocuted to death.
• DeKalb Avenue Manhattan-bound platform

 

 

: Northbound trains run express Dyckman Street-207th Street.

: Southbound trains run express Burnside Avenue-167th Street.

: Via 8 Av/CPW Local - Rutgers Street Tunnel.

: Suspended.

: Via Rutgers Street Tunnel. Select n/b trains run to High Street.

: Via Houston Street to 2nd Avenue.

: Select trains via Crosstown, in b/d.

: No service b/w Broadway Junction & Canarsie.

: Via Nassau Street to Chambers Street.

: No service b/w Jay Street-Metrotech and Atlantic Avenue. Via Broadway Local - Tunnel. Select s/b trains run normally. Select n/b trains run via West End/4 Av Exp from Coney Island. Select n/b trains terminate at Prospect Park.

: Via Bridge - Broadway Express.

[Quill Depot]

ok, imagine this:

The tunnels that carries the , , in and out of the Bronx and Manhattan, broke and there needed to be service to be put back in service. What would you do to bring back service.

 

via train

No between 149-GC and 125th St

No between 3rd Av and 125th St

[TrainFanInfinity]

NEXT:

 

Two separate sinkholes have developed near the 125th Street fault line in upper Manhattan:

 

One between St. Nicholas and Lenox Avenues.

 

One between Lexington and 3rd Avenue.

 

The only subway line that far north unaffected by this is the line (as it's elevated on 125) and Metro-North is also unaffected by this (as its also elevated).

 

This will take a few days to fix.  Reroute/suspend/cross-honor as needed.

 

 

: No service b/w 168th Street & 59th Street. Via 8th Avenue Local.

: No service b/w 34th Street & 168th Street. Via 8th Avenue Express.

: No service b/w 59th Street & The Bronx. Select trains run to 57th Street/6th Avenue.

: No service b/w 59th Street & 145th Street.

: No service b/w 149th Street-GC & 110th Street.

: No service b/w 148th Street & 110th Street.

: No service b/w 86th Street & 149th Street-GC.

: No service b/w East 180th Street & 86th Street.

: No service b/w 86th Street & 3rd Avenue-138th Street.

[Quill Depot]

NEXT:

 

Two separate sinkholes have developed near the 125th Street fault line in upper Manhattan:

 

One between St. Nicholas and Lenox Avenues.

 

One between Lexington and 3rd Avenue.

 

The only subway line that far north unaffected by this is the line (as it's elevated on 125) and Metro-North is also unaffected by this (as its also elevated).

 

This will take a few days to fix.  Reroute/suspend/cross-honor as needed.

 

 

 

trains split in two sections 207th to 145th St via Local and 34th to Rock

trains run from 59th to Euclid

trains run from 59th to Brighton

trains split in two sections from 205th to 145th via Local and 59th to C.I.

trains split in two sections 241st to 135th and 110th to New Lots

trains run via to Dyckman

trains split in two sections Woodlawn to 138-GC and 86th or 42nd to Utica

trains run Dyre Shuttle

trains split in two sections Pelham to 3rd Av and 86th or 42nd to City Hall

MetroCard is honored on MNRR within city limits

[MTA Dude]

Next, a runaway Q48 bus has crashed into a column near 111th Street, causing it to collapse. The police suspect someone was responsible for it, and went to 74th St-Broadway. There was a reckless driver that had this "race car", going at 50 mph, and didn't know about the closed road, and when seeing the closed road, crashed into another column at 74th Street-Broadway, and that collapsed onto Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue. Reroute service: .

[Fresh Pond]

suspended

 

bypass the station at slow speed in both directions

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Lol  @ the scenario

 

Anyway, for me I would do it as 

Suspended

 

Free Shuttle Buses run as follows:

Flushing to Queensboro Plaza (non-stop; via LIE Westbound, Northern Eastbound)

Flushing to Queensboro Plaza, Limited stop (only stops at Flushing, WIllets Point, Junction Blvd, Woodside, and Queensboro Plaza

Willets Point to Queensboro Plaza

 

(NOTE: For stations Junction Blvd to 61 Street, buses will stop on 37 Avenue instead of Roosevelt Avenue)

 

Runs in two sections: Queens Plaza-WTC and 71St Avenue and Jamaica Center OR 179 Street

Terminates at 21 St- Queensbridge

Runs to Chamber Street

Service terminates at 57 Street- 7  Avenue (skipping 49 Street)

Run local in Manhattan EXCEPT FROM 2 PM-8 PM and 6 AM-11 AM (where they run Broadway Express, skipping 49 street northbound)

 

Shuttle Buses:

71st Av- Queens Plaza Express (71, 67, 63, Woodhaven, Grand, 46 Street , Queens Plaza

Woodhaven- Queens Plaza Limited (Woodhaven, Grand, Elmhurst, 74 Street (on 37 Avenue), 36 Street, Queens Plaza)

74 Street to Queens Plaza, all stops

Edited December 9, 2014 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[DailyDose]

Next, a runaway Q48 bus has crashed into a column near 111th Street, causing it to collapse. The police suspect someone was responsible for it, and went to 74th St-Broadway. There was a reckless driver that had this "race car", going at 50 mph, and didn't know about the closed road, and when seeing the closed road, crashed into another column at 74th Street-Broadway, and that collapsed onto Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue. Reroute service: .

Suspended.

 

Two Sections: WTC - Queens Plaza, 71st St - Jamaica Center

Two Sections: CI - Queensbridge, 71st St - 179th St.

Terminates at Chambers St.

Ends at 57th st - 7th Ave.

 

Seeing as this will be a probably a long term closure, the following shuttle bus routes will be put in place:

- Route 1: Queensbridge - Queensboro Plaza - Queens Plaza - 71st Continental stopping at all and Stations.

- Route 2: Queensboro Plaza - Queens Plaza - 71st Continental stopping at all and stations.

- Route 3: Flushing - Queensboro Plaza stopping at all stations

- Route 3 LTD: Flushing - Queensboro Plaza stopping at only Flushing, Mets-Willets, Junction Blvd, and Queensboro Plaza.

- Route 3X: Flushing - Queensboro Plaza stopping at all stations.

 

Cross-Honoring in effect at Flushing, Mets-Willets Point, and Woodside Stations.

Edited December 9, 2014 by DailyDose

[FamousNYLover]

NEXT:

 

Two separate sinkholes have developed near the 125th Street fault line in upper Manhattan:

 

One between St. Nicholas and Lenox Avenues.

 

One between Lexington and 3rd Avenue.

 

The only subway line that far north unaffected by this is the line (as it's elevated on 125) and Metro-North is also unaffected by this (as its also elevated).

 

This will take a few days to fix.  Reroute/suspend/cross-honor as needed.

 

 

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Wakefield-241st St and 149th St-Grand Concourse

2. Between Central Park North-110th St and Brooklyn College-Flatbush Av.

: Service suspended.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Woodlawn and 149th St-Grand Concourse.

2. Between 86th St and New Lots Av via Local.

: No trains between East 180th St and Bowling Green/Brooklyn College-Flatbush Av.

: No trains between 3rd Av-138th St and Brooklyn College-City Hall.

: 42nd St Shuttle runs overnight.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Inwood-207th St and 168th St-Washington Heights.

2. Between 59th St-Columbus Circle and Ozone Park-Lefferts Blvd/Far Rockaway-Mott Av via local.

: Service suspended.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Norwood-205th St and 161st St-Yankees Stadium.

2. Between 47th-50th St and Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

Shuttle Buses operate as follows.

1. IRT Lexington Av Shuttle Bus operates between 149th St-Grand Concourse and 86th St with stop at 138th St-3rd Av.

2. IRT Lenox Av Shuttle Bus makes stops between 149th St-Grand Concourse and Central Park North-110th St with stop at Harlem-148th and 145th St.

3. IND Central Park West Shuttle Buses with make stops between 168th St-Washington Heights and 47th-50th Sts via 161st St-Yankees Stadium, 155th St Station.

 

During this time MNRR Harlem and Hudson Line will cross honor MetroCard at Woodlawn, Fordham, Melrose, Marble Hill, Harlem-125th St and Grand Central

Also during this time, MNRR will offer following subway shuttle train service.

1. Between Fordham and Grand Central.

2. Between Yankees-East 153rd St and Grand Central.

[Wallyhorse]

Next, a runaway Q48 bus has crashed into a column near 111th Street, causing it to collapse. The police suspect someone was responsible for it, and went to 74th St-Broadway. There was a reckless driver that had this "race car", going at 50 mph, and didn't know about the closed road, and when seeing the closed road, crashed into another column at 74th Street-Broadway, and that collapsed onto Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue. Reroute service: .

runs to 33rd Street-Rawson ONLY with LIMITED EXPRESS SERVICE in both directions to Woodside

shuttle runs between Mets-Willets Point and Main Street-Flushing

 

runs in two sections:

Jamaica Center to 71st-Continental

Court Square (23rd-Ely)-Chambers Street

LIMITED service runs to Northern Boulevard via local after Queens Plaza

Single track shuttles run on both local tracks between 71st-Continental and Elmhurst Avenue.

 

runs in two sections:

179th Street to 71st-Continental

21st-Queensbridge to Coney Island

LIMITED service runs to Northern Boulevard via local after 21st-Queensbridge

 

LIRR Cross-honors all MetroCards between Penn Station and both Flushing and Jamaica.

 

Separate shuttle buses run as follows:

 

Between Queensboro Plaza (stopping at Queens Plaza and 21st-Queensbridge) and 71st-Continental.

Between Queensboro Plaza and Main Street-Flushing.

 

is extended to Northern Boulevard, where it terminates.

 

is re-routed to the Nassau Street Line, Montague Street Tunnel and 4th Avenue, running to 95th Street-Bay Ridge Brooklyn to replace the , which is suspended during this time.

 

runs via the tunnel in Manhattan to replace the along Broadway.

 

For service to Canal Street and points between there DeKalb Avenue, take the or during this time.

 

For service to Canal Street and points north via 4th Avenue, take or switch to the train at express stops.

Edited December 9, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[MysteriousBtrain]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beggining of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

[P3F]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beginning of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

to Broad St.

via between W4 and Jay St.

Shuttle Bus to High Street from Jay St.

[Wallyhorse]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beggining of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

Assuming both have happened:

 

runs as follows:

Lefferts Boulevard trains run local from Columbus Circle to West 4th and via the between West 4th and Jay Street (normal route otherwise, INCLUDING LATE NIGHTS, eliminating the late-night shuttle).

 

Other trains in Manhattan from 207th Street run to the Chambers Street platform (and are express in Manhattan, except late nights).

 

Single-track shuttle runs between Chambers and Fulton Street.

 

ALL Rockaway trains are re-designated as and run to Far Rockaway or Rockaway Park from High Street (LATE NIGHTS: runs via the old round-robin shuttle route in the Rockaways before going to High Street).  There is no Rockaway Park during this time since the would be running between there and High Street.

 

runs normal route to West 4th and then via the and to the Broadway Junction platform (Except late nights).

 

runs on the express track and skips 23rd and Spring Street, but runs normal route otherwise (some trains as needed run local in Queens to replace the .

 

goes to Broad Street with the during this time.

 

runs in Brooklyn to Court Street at ALL TIMES, including late nights and weekends (no running over the bridge).

 

Manhattan runs as it did between Whitehall Street and 71st-Continental, including weekends (late nights: Single-track shuttle on the uptown track between Whitehall and the tunnel level of Canal Street).

 

and are unaffected.

Edited December 10, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[MTA Dude]

Next, a runaway Q48 bus has crashed into a column near 111th Street, causing it to collapse. The police suspect someone was responsible for it, and went to 74th St-Broadway. There was a reckless driver that had this "race car", going at 50 mph, and didn't know about the closed road, and when seeing the closed road, crashed into another column at 74th Street-Broadway, and that collapsed onto Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue. Reroute service: .

 

Okay, what I would do is:

between Queensboro Plaza and Times Square. Four single track shuttles are running, two between 33rd St and 69th St, and the other two between 82nd St and 103rd St.

runs via 6th Av local as supplement for .

to Queens Plaza.

no service between Northern Blvd and Forest Hills.

to Essex St.

to 71st Avenue.

suspended

 

bypass the station at slow speed in both directions

 

Lol, you show no love for the and Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue collapsed!

[DailyDose]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beggining of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

 

Cut back to Chambers.

Does what it did.

 

, Trains via from W4 to Jay Street via Rutgers.

Trains local after Columbus Circle on 8th Ave.

Limited shuttle service runs single track from express W4 track to Fulton Street.

Shuttle bus service from Jay to High Street.

Edited December 11, 2014 by DailyDose

[MTA Dude]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beggining of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

 

runs via Brighton Local to Coney Island.

suspended.

via Manhattan Bridge.

suspended.

 

via Rutgers Tunnel, then local in Brooklyn.

runs via 6th Avenue Local to supplement the .

to Chambers St.

extended to Forest Hills.

suspended.

[Wallyhorse]

Picture this:

The 2010 budget cuts never happened, and it is the beggining of 2014, the time that the Montague Street tunnel is closed for reconstruction. How would service be ran?

Bonus: Imagine what would happen if the Cranberry Street tunnel closed at all times due to repairs from Hurricane Sandy.

Going to re-do this one because I mis-read this the first time about things remaining as they were in 2010.  Assuming both tunnel shutdowns happened:

 

runs as follows:

Lefferts Boulevard trains run local from Columbus Circle to West 4th and via the between West 4th and Jay Street (normal route otherwise, INCLUDING LATE NIGHTS, eliminating the late-night shuttle).

 

Additional trains in Manhattan from 207th Street run to the Chambers Street platform (and are express in Manhattan, except late nights).

 

Single-track shuttle runs between Chambers and Fulton Street.

 

ALL Rockaway trains are re-designated as and run to Far Rockaway or Rockaway Park from High Street (LATE NIGHTS: runs via the old round-robin shuttle route in the Rockaways before going to High Street).  There is no Rockaway Park during this time since the would be running between there and High Street.

 

runs normal route to West 4th and then via the former late 1960s-'70s route to the Broadway Junction platform (Except late nights).

 

runs on the express track and skips 23rd and Spring Street, but runs normal route otherwise.

 

runs in Brooklyn to Court Street at ALL TIMES, including late nights and weekends (no running over the bridge).

 

replaces the Manhattan and runs as that part actually did between Whitehall Street and 71st-Continental, but including weekends (late nights: Single-track shuttle on the uptown track between Whitehall and the tunnel level of Canal Street).

 

and are unaffected

 

runs local in Manhattan and is extended to Ditmars Boulevard-Astoria on weekdays.  Normal (express) route to 57th Street-7th Avenue evenings and weekends (local overnights).

 

is absorbed by the running to Broadway Junction.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Wallyhorse

[MTA Dude]

Next:

A freak accident on Lexington Ave-63rd St from the SAS left the station useless. In addition, the East Side Access project has once again drilled into the 63rd St line, but this time, collapsing the entire thing. Also, due to the authority worrying so much about what has just happened, the 53rd St corridor (including Queens) was just plum forgotten and the signaling went haywire, limiting the max capacity to 15 TPH (intervals of ever 4 minutes, and the runs at 4 minute intervals.) They have then done a good job on making sure that the is the exact spacing, and has increased intervals on the to every 5 minutes. But somehow, the signaling at 59th Street also limited it to a bit more than 10 TPH (don't ask how). What a mess for the !

 

Change Service On: .

[Fresh Pond]

What the shit do you guys be thinking of...

[P3F]

Next:

A freak accident on Lexington Ave-63rd St from the SAS left the station useless. In addition, the East Side Access project has once again drilled into the 63rd St line, but this time, collapsing the entire thing. Also, due to the authority worrying so much about what has just happened, the 53rd St corridor (including Queens) was just plum forgotten and the signaling went haywire, limiting the max capacity to 15 TPH (intervals of ever 4 minutes, and the runs at 4 minute intervals.) They have then done a good job on making sure that the is the exact spacing, and has increased intervals on the to every 5 minutes. But somehow, the signaling at 59th Street also limited it to a bit more than 10 TPH (don't ask how). What a mess for the !

 

Change Service On: .

Fix the tunnel and whatever else is broken, and call it a day.

[Wallyhorse]

Next:

A freak accident on Lexington Ave-63rd St from the SAS left the station useless. In addition, the East Side Access project has once again drilled into the 63rd St line, but this time, collapsing the entire thing. Also, due to the authority worrying so much about what has just happened, the 53rd St corridor (including Queens) was just plum forgotten and the signaling went haywire, limiting the max capacity to 15 TPH (intervals of ever 4 minutes, and the E runs at 4 minute intervals.) They have then done a good job on making sure that the E is the exact spacing, and has increased intervals on the E to every 5 minutes. But somehow, the signaling at 59th Street also limited it to a bit more than 10 TPH (don't ask how). What a mess for the MTA!

 

Change Service On: 4/5/6/E/F/M/N/Q/R.

I'm going to assume 10TPH on each Track at 59th Street and the entire 63rd Street section is unusable at all for this purpose and this will be for an extended period:

 

trains from Woodlawn and trains from Pelham Bay Park are cut back to 10TPH each

Select trains from Brooklyn terminate at Wall Street, Brooklyn Bridge or Grand Central and from Woodlawn terminate at 86th Street.

Additional trains from Pelham Bay Park end and begin at 86th Street in Manhattan or 3rd Avenue in The Bronx.

 

runs via the between 149th-GC and Nevins Street when capacity does not permit normal Lexington Avenue service.  If necessary, some service terminates at 180th Street or 149th-GC in The Bronx.

 

temporarily is re-routed to and replaces the in Brooklyn and Queens (moving there south of West 4th), running from Metropolitan Avenue in Queens to 168th Street in Manhattan (This includes weekends, but not overnights, when the Metropolitan-Myrtle shuttle is still running).

 

runs via 8th Avenue express and temporarily is extended to Euclid Avenue in Brooklyn to replace the there, except overnights when it runs to Chambers as it does now.  Select trains (usually those to/from 179th in Queens) still terminate at Chambers during rush hours.

 

A temporary train, running 2-4 TPH runs via 8th Avenue local between Chambers and 168th Streets (except overnights).

 

service is split as follows during peak hours:

Manhattan service from Coney Island to 57th Street-6th Avenue

Direct Queens service from Brooklyn service runs via the between Bergen Street and Roosevelt Avenue (express after Queens Plaza)

Off-peak and overnights only: All service via 53rd Street as capacity allows with a single-track shuttle between 47th-50th and 57th Street.

is extended to 179th Street to replace lost and service in Queens.

 

A temporary train operates between 2nd Avenue and 57th Street during peak hours only.

 

is restricted to 10TPH to Queensboro Plaza.

All other trains terminate at Times Square or 57th Street-7th Avenue.

 

to Times Square or 57th Street-7th Avenue ONLY and is local in Manhattan.

 

runs as follows:

Weekdays: To Canal Street (tunnel level) ONLY with select trains terminating at Whitehall Street.

Evenings and Weekends: To 57th Street-7th Avenue as capacity allows.  Same as weekdays if capacity north of Canal does not allow for it.

[CenSin]

 

A small earthquake (and they do happen up here, even if rarely) catches the MTA off-guard and splashes a bit of water over the city. Coney Island yard and most of the Sea Beach line (up to New Utrecht Avenue) is out of service. Water pushed up the Hudson and East rivers causes minor flooding in the east river tubes south of the bridge crossings.

 

Armed robbers, taking advantage of the panic cause chaos in small pockets of the system with possible deaths/injuries requiring police activity at:

• 207 Street uptown platform
• 170 Street southbound platform
• Chambers Street to Canal Street A man with a paper bag over his head fled into the tunnel after a successful robbery.
• Sutter Avenue tracks An assailant appears to have been chased by his potential victim into the tracks and electrocuted to death.
• DeKalb Avenue Manhattan-bound platform

: Northbound trains run express Dyckman Street-207th Street.

: Southbound trains run express Burnside Avenue-167th Street.

: Via 8 Av/CPW Local - Rutgers Street Tunnel.

: Suspended.

: Via Rutgers Street Tunnel. Select n/b trains run to High Street.

: Via Houston Street to 2nd Avenue.

: Select trains via Crosstown, in b/d.

: No service b/w Broadway Junction & Canarsie.

: Via Nassau Street to Chambers Street.

: No service b/w Jay Street-Metrotech and Atlantic Avenue. Via Broadway Local - Tunnel. Select s/b trains run normally. Select n/b trains run via West End/4 Av Exp from Coney Island. Select n/b trains terminate at Prospect Park.

: Via Bridge - Broadway Express.

 

You've sent some trains underwater!