Vistausss Posted November 25, 2013 Share #2026 Posted November 25, 2013 @Brett: To clarify: I asked the question because Yuki talked about NCC having a board set up for students who take NICE. I assume a board within the school gets some funding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 26, 2013 Share #2027 Posted November 26, 2013 Ah, I get it now, thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 26, 2013 Share #2028 Posted November 26, 2013 How anyone read this TAC Minutes? It looks like NICE Bus did something new for TAC. September 17th minutes- Which list who spoke at TAC meeting. http://www.nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/Trans_Com_9-17-13_Minutes.pdf From June 18th minutes. http://www.nicebus.com/_meta/downloads/Transit_Com_6_18_13_Minutes.pdf For the September 17 meeting PDF, they have more information about the Clever Devices system starting on page 25. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinePower Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2029 Posted November 28, 2013 I noticed new bus stop signs on Glen Cove Rd in Carle Place today, but instead of saying n22a, they have n22 on the top, n23 in the middle, and n27 on the bottom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2030 Posted November 28, 2013 We had new member came for Long Island Bus Riders Union since she hate Veolia across the world. She went to rally to support Boston Bus drivers who were on strike against Veolia Transportation, which School Buses are taken over by Veolia over there. Veolia Transportation is also planning to privatize some of Sewage System, some union members who represent Sewage System don't want Veolia Transportation to operate it. According to new members, Veolia made same cut to Boston school bus routes, making school bus more crowded. I'm not going to cry a river for the Boston School Bus Drivers just as with the NYC bus drivers I think it is WRONG to strike and leave children stranded to get what you want. IMHO there should be a law against this... Veolia Transportation is also planning to privatize some of Sewage System, some union members who represent Sewage System don't want Veolia Transportation to operate it. Whether it's buses or sewer systems the municipality decides to privatize the system and companies like Veolia bid on the job, Veolia doesn't just decide to privatize something. Of course union members don't want wherever they are working to be privatized because they know whatever private company will be running it will tighten the belt and crack the whip! Veolia Transportation is also planning to privatize some of Sewage System, some union members who represent Sewage System don't want Veolia Transportation to operate it. According to new members, Veolia made same cut to Boston school bus routes, making school bus more crowded. This is not Veolia Transportation, this is Veolia Water (or environmental I can't remember off hand without googling it).... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2031 Posted November 28, 2013 I love how everything is always portrayed as "evil Veolia" turning something evil or messing something up. I've been following this deal with the Boston school buses for almost a year now, it is interesting the last operator was notorious for being (very) late, they were even fined $800,000 last year by the Boston Public Schools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinePower Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2032 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Well you don't get named school bus driver of the year for falling behind schedule...sorry I couldn't resist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYMm2cAs24 Edited November 28, 2013 by PinePower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2033 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Exactly Burrstone. Veolia Environment (that's what they're officially called btw , Veolia Water is a subdivision of Veolia Environment) is an operation entirely different from Veolia Transportation. You can't compare those to each other. Edited November 28, 2013 by Vistausss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2034 Posted November 28, 2013 Exactly Burrstone. Veolia Environment (that's what they're officially called btw , Veolia Water is a subdivision of Veolia Environment) is an operation entirely different from Veolia Transportation. You can't compare those to each other.Good lord, how big is Veolia (as a whole)?!?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted November 28, 2013 Share #2035 Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) @Brett: No. Veolia consists of two parts: Transdev Veolia Transportation and Veolia Environment. Veolia Water and Veolia Energy are subdivisions of Veolia Environment. Environment itself (and Transportation) is no subdivision of whatever. Veolia Environment is operating indepently from Transdev unlike Veolia Transportation. They do have shareholdings in Transdev though. And next year Veolia will consist of three parts as Veolia Transport Netherlands will start operating on it's own instead of being backed by Transdev. So next year Veolia will be: Transdev Veolia Transportation, Veolia Transport and Veolia Environment. Edited November 28, 2013 by Vistausss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 1, 2013 Share #2036 Posted December 1, 2013 Today, on the 20:00 n20 FLushing #1690, which I boarded at Great Neck Station ontime at 20:15, after he drop off all his passengers at 20:47 at Union St, he wanted to talk to me and he used to work under MTA LIB umbrella and he was also complaining Veolia does not give bus drivers enough time for break time. He told me that some of bus operators only have 20 minutes or 15 minutes meal break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted December 1, 2013 Share #2037 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) 20 minutes meal break? That's a lot compared to most bus companies here. Most of 'em here get only a few minutes meal break if they're on time. Edited December 1, 2013 by Vistausss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 1, 2013 Share #2038 Posted December 1, 2013 I think anything around 10 minutes and over is extremely generous as well, meal or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2039 Posted December 2, 2013 Today, on the 20:00 n20 FLushing #1690, which I boarded at Great Neck Station ontime at 20:15, after he drop off all his passengers at 20:47 at Union St, he wanted to talk to me and he used to work under MTA LIB umbrella and he was also complaining Veolia does not give bus drivers enough time for break time. He told me that some of bus operators only have 20 minutes or 15 minutes meal break. who cares? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2040 Posted December 2, 2013 In his defense this is the "random thoughts" thread. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinePower Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2041 Posted December 2, 2013 20 minutes meal break? That's a lot compared to most bus companies here. Most of 'em here get only a few minutes meal break if they're on time. Yeah that's above what most lines I've seen give. Most routes in Nassau & Suffolk generally give only around 10 min layover, some as little as 5. 20 mins is a pretty good deal and I bet a high seniority pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2042 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) I could walk into company tomorrow and take a poll, I'm sure a majority of employees at any would say they felt they deserved longer or more breaks... That doesn't mean the company is treating them unfairly, I think a lot of people forget their employer is paying them to work, not to take breaks. Are NICE drivers not covered by NYS labor laws regarding breaks? I know certain industries are not covered, I have no idea if this is one of them. Whatever it is I'm sure it's on the up and up, the union wouldn't allow the company to violate labor law... It's funny, Yuki posted what a driver told him, yet he forgets he posted pics of 2 driver paddle reports (List NICE interlines You Know) that both showed a 30 minute meal break... Edited December 2, 2013 by Burrstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2043 Posted December 2, 2013 20 minutes meal break? That's a lot compared to most bus companies here. Most of 'em here get only a few minutes meal break if they're on time. This isn't Holland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts2660 Posted December 2, 2013 Share #2044 Posted December 2, 2013 8 hr shifts get 30 min meal breaks,but if you are running late there it goes.I did a route over the summer and on saturdays I would always run late the last trip before my break.Try driving 8- 9 hrs without eating anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 3, 2013 Share #2045 Posted December 3, 2013 8 hr shifts get 30 min meal breaks,but if you are running late there it goes.I did a route over the summer and on saturdays I would always run late the last trip before my break.Try driving 8- 9 hrs without eating anything. So you ran 30 minutes late? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts2660 Posted December 3, 2013 Share #2046 Posted December 3, 2013 So you ran 30 minutes late? most times 20 - 25 very easy on some routes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sts2660 Posted December 3, 2013 Share #2047 Posted December 3, 2013 sorry had to clear this up.20 - 25 min late is easy when you fill the bus, get a couple wheelchairs and get rings for most stops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted December 3, 2013 Share #2048 Posted December 3, 2013 @sts2660: Not that it matters, but just out of curiosity: given that your location is Suffolk, do you work for SCT? Or do you live there but do work for NICE? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 5, 2013 Share #2049 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Yesterday at 9:30pm at Flushing, two passengers (Asian and one senior-like (both males) missed 21:30 n20 Hicksville because male B/O left three minutes early, which upset one of passenger who were running for bus from subway station. Male senior-like passenger told me NICE is always leaving too early or too late. He says "Drivers don't know how to read schedules" Tuesday, male B/O who drives 10:15 n20 Hicksville is friend of driver that crush into 505 Fulton Avenue. He don't like Veolia either. Also, on 12:15pm n80 Massapeaqua, I overheard conversation male driver talking with his regular female passenger that Veolia don't know how to set up driver's schedule and even his trip on n80/81 can be late. Edited December 5, 2013 by FamousNYLover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted December 5, 2013 Share #2050 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) "always too early or too late" Yes, that's a common thing I'm hearing from people at every company in the world I've traveled with. Some people just like to complain, I guess. Come to think of it: how are the clocks in the buses? Because I know that here sometimes the clocks in the buses differ from the regular clocks. Therefore, I've been keeping my phone's clock at the up-to-date with the bus clocks for a few years now. If NICE's clocks also differ a bit, maybe that explains why a bus sometimes departures a tad early. Edited December 5, 2013 by Vistausss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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