Ale188 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6676 Posted October 30, 2023 3 hours ago, MJHmarc said: That set has not stopped running. So if the production sets stopped running, the deliveries stop as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHmarc Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6677 Posted October 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Ale188 said: So if the production sets stopped running, the deliveries stop as well? Yep! There was a set ready to come last week but that’s all on hold now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHmarc Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6678 Posted October 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, MJHmarc said: Yep! There was a set ready to come last week but that’s all on hold now. But this doesn’t mean they are not being built in the plant so when the fix is done there should be lots of sets waiting to come faster than before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6679 Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, MJHmarc said: But this doesn’t mean they are not being built in the plant so when the fix is done there should be lots of sets waiting to come faster than before. Ok. Cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6680 Posted October 30, 2023 I think logistics may prevent them from coming much faster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89292 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6681 Posted October 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Comrade96 said: with all due respect, keep your mouth shut on things you know nothing about Oh that’s fine, all I know is that it’ll take 5 months to fix this issue, under MTA timeline 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6682 Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris89292 said: Oh that’s fine, all I know is that it’ll take 5 months to fix this issue, under MTA timeline 4 weeks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6683 Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 3:33 PM, shiznit1987 said: It sounds tempting, but only SF DC Chicago and Boston have systems of a size and scope to make it worthwhile. Remember that Alstom, Siemens and Kawasaki are all conglomerates with multiple endeavors other that heavy rail car manufacturing. It's a huge lift to have to put up the immense upfront capital costs of a manufacturing facility and retain the thousands of employees to excecute 500-1000+ car orders. What we should do is drop the Buy America nonsense and purchase off the shelf designs that have been working around the world for decades rather than MTA management demanding that we reinvent the wheel because "New York is special" "Buy America" is not nonsense because the manufacturing of the cars gives Americans jobs, rather than those jobs going overseas. And there is no such thing as an "off the shelf design". That is because even though the gauge may be standard, the clearance window varies from system to system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6684 Posted October 30, 2023 I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted October 30, 2023 Share #6685 Posted October 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's. For...what reason? Cuz if they don't like them, they need to suck it up nd ride em 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6686 Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's. If they want the R32s back, tell them that go to the SBKRY, and attempt to BEG these people for the R32s back, and if they know how to fix them, which will required years of tools, then all I gotta say is good luck with that. It’s gonna take their whole paycheck x20 to get it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6687 Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Ale188 said: For...what reason? Cuz if they don't like them, they need to suck it up nd ride em Exactly!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6688 Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: "Buy America" is not nonsense because the manufacturing of the cars gives Americans jobs, rather than those jobs going overseas. And there is no such thing as an "off the shelf design". That is because even though the gauge may be standard, the clearance window varies from system to system. Not to mention that we're talking about subway-oriented designs, not mainline railroad designs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchytectAnthony Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6689 Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's. There will always be those kinds of people everytime a new train is introduced. Im sure this kind of attitude existed with the previous NTTs and continue to exist with future trains. Maybe a time machine should be invented just to send those kinds of people to the 1970s and leave them there lol. /j 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1998NewFlyer Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6690 Posted October 31, 2023 7 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's. If anyone actually believes the r32s are coming back is just Beyond gullible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6691 Posted October 31, 2023 R32s can't comeback, it's way too late, new employees aren't trained on them and 90% of the fleet sat in storage since 2020 meaning it would take a lot to bring them back to operating condition for passenger service. It would cost way more to bring them back now vs. in 2020. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznit1987 Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6692 Posted October 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: "Buy America" is not nonsense because the manufacturing of the cars gives Americans jobs, rather than those jobs going overseas. And there is no such thing as an "off the shelf design". That is because even though the gauge may be standard, the clearance window varies from system to system. Designs can be calibrated for system particularities. If Alstom and Siemens can build HSR trains in Europe with several different power systems, signaling regimens, and even different track guages (Spain) then that's not an issue. While in spirit I do in fact want American jobs here we need to face facts: We don't have the business demand of Europe or Asia for heavy rail equipment. We can dig our heels in and accept that only a few players will set up shop in the hopes of reeling in a "big fish" every 5 or 10 years of so or realize that if we're to expand upon the uptake of transit in this country we need to find a way to get costs down and this is one way in which it can be done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 31, 2023 Share #6693 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 10:27 AM, MJHmarc said: That set has not stopped running. exactly - if that set was ever out of service, it was probably for routine maintenance or to give it a break from running 24/7. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6694 Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 1:04 AM, 1998NewFlyer said: If anyone actually believes the r32s are coming back is just Beyond gullible Yep agree it’s pointless for the MTA to bring back trains that are too old and can’t be rebuild with new parts. That would be a waste of time and money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6695 Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 3:07 AM, R32 3838 said: R32s can't comeback, it's way too late, new employees aren't trained on them and 90% of the fleet sat in storage since 2020 meaning it would take a lot to bring them back to operating condition for passenger service. It would cost way more to bring them back now vs. in 2020. Who even is saying the R32 are coming must be smoking something. It’s too expensive for those trains since the MTA don’t have spare parts or updated equipment to be compatible. Those trains are done no coming back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6696 Posted November 2, 2023 I just witnessed 4050-4059 (R211T) burn-in testing along the Local to Euclid at 81 Street. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6697 Posted November 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Transit Fans said: Who even is saying the R32 are coming must be smoking something. It’s too expensive for those trains since the MTA don’t have spare parts or updated equipment to be compatible. Those trains are done no coming back. It’s not so much saying they’re coming back, so much as demanding it. Every time the R211s have suffered even the slightest setback , they have started with this nonsense. Many armchairs do not think before they speak. I had someone on the comments of one of my videos suggest the F should get the R143s. I have been an MTA employee now for about 18 months. I am not trained on anything older than the R46s. You would need the exact opposite of the R211 protection crew to operate any R32s in service. that being said. I will point out we do have the “movie train” (yes, that’s its sort-of-official name), but again, I have no clue what to do with it, and there several hundred people behind me on the B division conductor roster who don’t have a clue ether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6698 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1ePU8tefu 4179 and 4177 are seen built Edited November 2, 2023 by Ale188 Link didn't exist. Fixed link 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtoro7 Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6699 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ale188 said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1ePU8tefu 4179 and 4177 are seen built The content is no longer available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted November 2, 2023 Share #6700 Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, djtoro7 said: The content is no longer available. It still is. Just checked and the vid is still there. Maybe its blocked for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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