LGA Link N Train Posted August 18, 2017 Share #726 Posted August 18, 2017 Operations planning isn't done based on whether or not something will be weird to transit fans; they're done based on what's practical and makes the most sense. One again, your suggestions don't make sense.I know Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted August 22, 2017 Share #727 Posted August 22, 2017 What's the point of completing the Second Avenue Subway??? The only thing we need from this line is A third storage track at phase 2, express tracks at phase 3 and a better integration with the existing system. If the current SAS stays the way it is, it's going to be the most expensive mistake the city has ever made Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Anyways, I think the R211 should only be assigned to the and trains, and maybe the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Gotta disagree with that. The lower East side really needs another north south connection. Although, I don't understand some of the stop placements. East village is kind of skipped. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 22, 2017 Share #728 Posted August 22, 2017 Gotta disagree with that. The lower East side really needs another north south connection. Although, I don't understand some of the stop placements. East village is kind of skipped. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have a point, but a better integration with the existing system is needed in some way Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted August 22, 2017 Share #729 Posted August 22, 2017 You have a point, but a better integration with the existing system is needed in some way Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Probably, like a connection to first avenue on the L or something Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 22, 2017 Share #730 Posted August 22, 2017 Probably, like a connection to first avenue on the L or something Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Also, should we get back on topic and talk about this on a different therad Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted August 22, 2017 Share #731 Posted August 22, 2017 Also, should we get back on topic and talk about this on a different therad Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Probably yeah... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 24, 2017 Share #732 Posted August 24, 2017 Anyways, once all R211's come in, they will Replace the remaining R32's and R44's and some R46's. Therefore, any R160's or R179's lying around on the can go to the and and use some R46's instead. The R211's should go to the and trains. The can be all R160's thanks to the . And the could gain some R68's or R179's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted August 24, 2017 Share #733 Posted August 24, 2017 The 211s are replacing the r46's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 24, 2017 Share #734 Posted August 24, 2017 The 211s are replacing the r46'sNot all of them though Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 24, 2017 Share #735 Posted August 24, 2017 Not all of them though Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Yes, all of them, along with the remaining 32s and 42s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 24, 2017 Share #736 Posted August 24, 2017 Yup, anything before the 68's is being retired by the R211s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 24, 2017 Share #737 Posted August 24, 2017 Yup, anything before the 68's is being retired by the R211s.Ok, Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 24, 2017 Share #738 Posted August 24, 2017 BTW, I think the R42s would be retired by the R179s since theres only 50 of the former. Also, don't forget that the 211s will retire the SIR-operated R44s.And R46's, heck if there are any remaining just put them on the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 26, 2017 Share #739 Posted August 26, 2017 And R46's, heck if there are any remaining just put them on the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk There won't be any after the 211s come in. Point blank. The 211s will be replacing the 46s. Thats why its such a large order. Sent from my LGLS755 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 26, 2017 Share #740 Posted August 26, 2017 There won't be any after the 211s come in. Point blank. The 211s will be replacing the 46s. Thats why its such a large order. Sent from my LGLS755 using Tapatalk True, but that depends on how things go with the orders, if it goes well, then you're right, if there's a delay, then you already know Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 27, 2017 Share #741 Posted August 27, 2017 Anyways, I think that R211's will most likely be built by Alstom and Kawasaki Heavy industries Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 27, 2017 Share #742 Posted August 27, 2017 One question about the R211S: Will they be required to have PTC like PATH? I know SIR has some FRA waivers, but do they have one to not install PTC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 27, 2017 Share #743 Posted August 27, 2017 One question about the R211S: Will they be required to have PTC like PATH? I know SIR has some FRA waivers, but do they have one to not install PTC?Interesting question: let's wait and see Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted August 27, 2017 Share #744 Posted August 27, 2017 One question about the R211S: Will they be required to have PTC like PATH? I know SIR has some FRA waivers, but do they have one to not install PTC?What exactly comprises PTC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 27, 2017 Share #745 Posted August 27, 2017 What exactly comprises PTC? "The American Railway Engineering and Maintenance-of-Way Association (AREMA) describes Positive Train Control as having these primary characteristics:[2] Train separation or collision avoidance Line speed enforcement Temporary speed restrictions Rail worker wayside safety" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_train_control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesman8 Posted August 27, 2017 Share #746 Posted August 27, 2017 "The American Railway Engineering and Maintenance-of-Way Association (AREMA) describes Positive Train Control as having these primary characteristics:[2] Train separation or collision avoidance Line speed enforcement Temporary speed restrictions Rail worker wayside safety" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_train_control So in evaluation, CBTC is a form of PTC installed, which R211's will most likely have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted August 27, 2017 Share #747 Posted August 27, 2017 FWIW, that article is over a year old.to ensure articles posted here are current, you should use the search tools function in the browser to limit results to the last two months. You can also specify a specific period using a range, or the wayback machine. Eric Shields | MassTransitHonchkrow Proud EasyPay Express Unlimited Customer - PPR mode Level 5 Google Local Guide for Southern NY State Check out my photography, DeskThemePacks and more - https://masstransithonchkrow.deviantart.com/gallery Sent from my HP ENVY m6 Notebook PC using Tapatalk using Remix OS I'm starting to think the R211s might already be RETIRED before the full second avenue subway project is complete [emoji19][emoji19][emoji19][emoji19][emoji19][emoji19][emoji19] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I love this sarcasm. It's palpable [emoji13] Eric Shields | MassTransitHonchkrow Proud EasyPay Express Unlimited Customer - PPR mode Level 5 Google Local Guide for Southern NY State Check out my photography, DeskThemePacks and more - https://masstransithonchkrow.deviantart.com/gallery Sent from my HP ENVY m6 Notebook PC using Tapatalk using Remix OS Operations planning isn't done based on whether or not something will be weird to transit fans; they're done based on what's practical and makes the most sense. One again, your suggestions don't make sense.Your lack of reasoning mirrors my first six months on this forum. It's like a wayback machine meeting a looking glass. The MTA is not an agency of bold decisions. Although your suggestions leave out other problems that may arise. Transit is like a symbiotic relationship. Things need to work well together in order for anything to move forward. The other synonym is bureaucracy. Eric Shields | MassTransitHonchkrow Proud EasyPay Express Unlimited Customer - PPR mode Level 5 Google Local Guide for Southern NY State Check out my photography, DeskThemePacks and more - https://masstransithonchkrow.deviantart.com/gallery Sent from my HP ENVY m6 Notebook PC using Tapatalk using Remix OS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted August 29, 2017 Share #748 Posted August 29, 2017 Breaking news: The Montreal Gazette is reporting that Bombardier has been disqualified from the R211 RFP. The Journal de Montreal obtained an internal memo from Bombardier themselves. An internal memo from Bombardier and obtained by the French-language daily indicates that Bombardier was excluded from a call for tender on a contract to construct up to 1,700 subway cars for the MTA. In the memo, Benoît Brossoit, president of Bombardier Transport for the Americas, is quoted as noting that “our poor performance and serious delays … sealed the fate of our bid. Our actions exacerbated an already difficult transit situation in New York, and our client’s decision shows that the market is no longer disposed to accept delays in performance and to submit to the consequences of our actions.” Bombardier was almost 24 months late in delivering 300 subway cars for another section of New York’s subway system. The report notes that the decision to dismiss Bombardier’s offer is a serious one, since the MTA has been dealing with the Quebec firm for nearly 35 years. http://montrealgazette.com/business/local-business/bombardier-shut-out-of-n-y-subway-contract-because-of-poor-performance-report 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted August 29, 2017 Share #749 Posted August 29, 2017 One question about the R211S: Will they be required to have PTC like PATH? I know SIR has some FRA waivers, but do they have one to not install PTC? SIR has no FRA waivers- there is nothing to waive. They have not been subject to FRA governance for over 29 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 29, 2017 Share #750 Posted August 29, 2017 Breaking news: The Montreal Gazette is reporting that Bombardier has been disqualified from the R211 RFP. The Journal de Montreal obtained an internal memo from Bombardier themselves. http://montrealgazette.com/business/local-business/bombardier-shut-out-of-n-y-subway-contract-because-of-poor-performance-report Then again, Alstom, Kawasaki, and (maybe) some other company might build the R211. Also for some reason, I felt like that Bombardier will be excluded from building the R211's, apparently my prediction was correct Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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