4P3607 Posted March 5 Share #7376 Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, Metro CSW said: Believe what you want, that set has been in service since the 27th from 3 pm. To confirm once more this set is currently running heading Northbound at Euclid. Looking at it as I'm typing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBusLover1 Posted March 5 Share #7377 Posted March 5 Now they basically have enough r211As to send out r32/32a to scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted March 5 Share #7378 Posted March 5 13 minutes ago, TyBusLover1 said: Now they basically have enough r211As to send out r32/32a to scrap. Been like that since the 12th of February 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway guy Posted March 5 Share #7379 Posted March 5 Quick question(s) for clarification since I no longer live in NYC: 1. If the goal is to eventually run 10 car C trains, how many R211 sets would it need to do so? 2. Are there enough 46's to run with the 211A's on the A line, move the 10 car R179's to the C line with the R46's and two 211T's? Thanks!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted March 5 Share #7380 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, subway guy said: Quick question(s) for clarification since I no longer live in NYC: 1. If the goal is to eventually run 10 car C trains, how many R211 sets would it need to do so? 2. Are there enough 46's to run with the 211A's on the A line, move the 10 car R179's to the C line with the R46's and two 211T's? Thanks!! There should be enough in the base order to cover for both the and , the only problem is whether or not 207 St will be able to have 10 car length maintenance shops. Otherwise, those R179's on the will not be going to the and neither would the 8 car R179's on the will be going anywhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted March 5 Share #7381 Posted March 5 38 minutes ago, Vulturious said: There should be enough in the base order to cover for both the and , the only problem is whether or not 207 St will be able to have 10 car length maintenance shops. Otherwise, those R179's on the will not be going to the and neither would the 8 car R179's on the will be going anywhere. they can always just cut the train in 2 and inspect it that way via 2 tracks instead of 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted March 5 Share #7382 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Comrade96 said: they can always just cut the train in 2 and inspect it that way via 2 tracks instead of 1 Not as productive and pretty counterintuitive if you ask me. Even in the short term, it would suck because 5 cars are in the shop while many other 5 car sets have to wait their turn as opposed to yards like Pitkin, CIY, and Jamaica yard being able to handle 10 cars on one track in their shop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted March 5 Share #7383 Posted March 5 This is R211 4180-4184 & 4080-4084 separately on the line heading for Pitkin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted March 6 Share #7384 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, Comrade96 said: they can always just cut the train in 2 and inspect it that way via 2 tracks instead of 1 The base order yes would suffice for the since it is 44 trains for the , which is what is normally required including spare factor. Remove 10 of those R211s and move them to the , along with the 8-car R179s and 2 R211T trains. Boom. The are fully NTT. We’d have to wait for option 1 to see what happens to the R179s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 6 Share #7385 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said: The base order yes would suffice for the since it is 44 trains for the , which is what is normally required including spare factor. Remove 10 of those R211s and move them to the , along with the 8-car R179s and 2 R211T trains. Boom. The are fully NTT. We’d have to wait for option 1 to see what happens to the R179s Option 1 will make the C 100% full length with 10 car trains and may allow the G to get 8 car trains. If that happens, then the G may have to go back to CI. Option 1 will provide NTTs to the B/D. Option 2 may allow the G to become full length with 10 car trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted March 6 Share #7386 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Option 1 will make the C 100% full length with 10 car trains and may allow the G to get 8 car trains. If that happens, then the G may have to go back to CI. Option 1 will provide NTTs to the B/D. Option 2 may allow the G to become full length with 10 car trains. Rolling stock line assignments is the decision of the people in Car Equipment. They are their own separate division within the Department of Subways, separate from us in Service Delivery/RTO. Whatever justifications they might have or feel, they can upend the entire fleet on a whim and a moment’s notice, that is how much authority they have. No one who works there actively posts here, so all you have is us “Master Controller Jocks” and “Button mashers” from RTO to try to explain people we often don’t get to talk to outside of when something has gone wrong. that being said, word on high still seems to suggest the two options in play are: A: send the option R211s directly to the D and Concourse. or B: send the option R211s to Jamaica and have Concourse get R160s. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted March 6 Share #7387 Posted March 6 On 3/5/2024 at 12:53 PM, Metro CSW said: Believe what you want, that set has been in service since the 27th from 3 pm. I'm believing what y'all put up. I'm just sayin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 6 Share #7388 Posted March 6 16 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: Rolling stock line assignments is the decision of the people in Car Equipment. They are their own separate division within the Department of Subways, separate from us in Service Delivery/RTO. Whatever justifications they might have or feel, they can upend the entire fleet on a whim and a moment’s notice, that is how much authority they have. No one who works there actively posts here, so all you have is us “Master Controller Jocks” and “Button mashers” from RTO to try to explain people we often don’t get to talk to outside of when something has gone wrong. that being said, word on high still seems to suggest the two options in play are: A: send the option R211s directly to the D and Concourse. or B: send the option R211s to Jamaica and have Concourse get R160s. I understand. That's why I wasn't specific in regards to what NTTs the B/D will get. All we know for a fact is that Concourse will lose the r68's due to CBTC on 8th and 6th Avenue. Ridership is growing and having 8 car trains or mixed length trains on the C and 5 car trains on the G doesn't cut it. Right now, there is NOT enough equipment to make both the C and G full length, but that will change once all option orders are in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted March 7 Share #7389 Posted March 7 Like she said. It’s up to the DCE to decide where these cars go to. If the cars go to this line and this yard, they will go to this yard and assign them to the line of their choosing. That’s why you see so many white/blue hard paper poster boards put all over on the 8th Ave line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 8 Share #7390 Posted March 8 4170-79 in-service heading to Lefferts as I type this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted March 8 Share #7391 Posted March 8 18 minutes ago, Metro CSW said: 4170-79 in-service heading to Lefferts as I type this. The is putting them in fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted March 8 Share #7392 Posted March 8 How many sets we got in service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted March 8 Share #7393 Posted March 8 (edited) 21 minutes ago, NBTA said: How many sets we got in service? 4040, 4050 4045, 4055 4060, 4065 4070, 4115 4075, 4090 4080, 4085 (OOS but went into service in August) 4095, 4130 4100, 4125 4105, 4160 4110, 4120 4135, 4140 4145, 4169 4170, 4175 4190, 4195 Lines: 130 or 140 depending on how you count it. I count 130. Edited March 8 by Ale188 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 8 Share #7394 Posted March 8 (edited) 4135-39 are coupled with 4140-44. I told you there'd be some switch ups. 4185-89 were testing at Broad Channel. 4080-89, 4105-09, 4160-64 & 4180-84 on stand-by. 4150-59 continue burn-ins, expected to start by next week. We'll see..... All else are active on the rails. Edited March 8 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted March 8 Share #7395 Posted March 8 31 minutes ago, Metro CSW said: 4135-39 are coupled with 4140-44. I told you there'd be some switch ups. 4185-89 were testing at Broad Channel. 4080-89, 4105-09, 4160-64 & 4180-84 on stand-by. 4150-59 continue burn-ins, expected to start by next week. We'll see..... All else are active on the rails. 31 minutes ago, Metro CSW said: 4135-39 are coupled with 4140-44. I told you there'd be some switch ups. 4185-89 were testing at Broad Channel. 4080-89, 4105-09, 4160-64 & 4180-84 on stand-by. 4150-59 continue burn-ins, expected to start by next week. We'll see..... All else are active on the rails. So about 15, soon to be 19-20 sets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 8 Share #7396 Posted March 8 (edited) Damn, I never thought that counting would be this complicated for buffs/foamers LOL Edited March 8 by Metro CSW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayJay85 Posted March 8 Share #7397 Posted March 8 On 3/5/2024 at 8:09 PM, darkstar8983 said: The base order yes would suffice for the since it is 44 trains for the , which is what is normally required including spare factor. Remove 10 of those R211s and move them to the , along with the 8-car R179s and 2 R211T trains. Boom. The are fully NTT. We’d have to wait for option 1 to see what happens to the R179s it's possible as rumored that 10 car sets R179 is coming off the going to Jamaica to beef up fleet size for lines once the option order start coming in, then we could see gets R211's, Car Equipment could do a 180 and send option order R211 to Jamaica, 8car R179 could go to ENY for services. Btw i saw 4190-4199 in service on 2 days ago at work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted March 8 Share #7398 Posted March 8 7 minutes ago, JayJay85 said: it's possible as rumored that 10 car sets R179 is coming off the going to Jamaica to beef up fleet size for lines once the option order start coming in, then we could see gets R211's, Car Equipment could do a 180 and send option order R211 to Jamaica, 8car R179 could go to ENY for services. Btw i saw 4190-4199 in service on 2 days ago at work. Right now, that’s just hearsay. Wait until DCE/DOS does it in action. Right now, these cars are staying on the A/C. So don’t believe any foamers. Wait until you hear from the bosses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted March 8 Share #7399 Posted March 8 Remember, 4185-89 was delivered. The lowest set we have reming to get delivered is 105/4200 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 8 Share #7400 Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Metro CSW said: Damn, I never thought that counting would be this complicated for buffs/foamers LOL LMAO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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