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Here it is! I changed the bullet to (XX) though.

 

Link to dock. DOC

 

STOPS:

 

Coney Island

West 8th Street

Brighton Beach

Sheepshead Bay

Kings Highway

Newkirk Plaza

Church Avenue

Prospect Park

Botanic Garden

Park Place

Fulton St-Franklin Avenue

Halsey St

Gates Ave

Dekalb Ave

Nostrand Ave-Myrtle Ave

Myrtle-Broadway

Central Ave

K’Bocker Ave

Myrtle-Wyckoff

Seneca Ave

Forest Ave

Fresh Pond Road

Metro Ave

 

I was looking at just two stops actually as noted in a later post between Myrtle Avenue upper level and Franklin Avenue: Sumner Avenue from the old version of the Myrtle El and Bedford-Nostrand Avenues (transfer to (G)). All other stations on the existing portions would be served by such a "Black (V)."

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I was looking at just two stops actually as noted in a later post between Myrtle Avenue upper level and Franklin Avenue: Sumner Avenue from the old version of the Myrtle El and Bedford-Nostrand Avenues (transfer to (G)). All other stations on the existing portions would be served by such a "Black (V)."

 

So, in this case, the (M) would be eliminated.

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The idea of this line is that it would absorb the Franklin Avenue (S) as well as (nights and weekends) the Myrtle Avenue (Mx) shuttle and serve as a 24/7 Brighton local between Metropolitan Avenue and Coney Island, with the current single track portion of the Franklin Avenue (S) rebuilt to two tracks and those stations rebuilt to 600 foot platforms (and the existing Myrtle El stations lengthened to 600 feet). This would allow the (Q) to be a full-time Brighton Express to Brighton Beach while the (;) becomes a second QB local to Coney Island (replacing the (Q) on that portion) on weekdays.

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The idea of this line is that it would absorb the Franklin Avenue (S) as well as (nights and weekends) the Myrtle Avenue (Mx) shuttle and serve as a 24/7 Brighton local between Metropolitan Avenue and Coney Island, with the current single track portion of the Franklin Avenue (S) rebuilt to two tracks and those stations rebuilt to 600 foot platforms (and the existing Myrtle El stations lengthened to 600 feet). This would allow the (Q) to be a full-time Brighton Express to Brighton Beach while the (;) becomes a second QB local to Coney Island (replacing the (Q) on that portion) on weekdays.

 

Why switch the (;) & the (Q) for local/exp?

 

Cant have and/or don't need two services up that Myrtle portion, better off just sending the (M) to Bway Jnct and allowing the (J)(Z) to have a thru express to the Junction.

 

Yeah, and send the (M) to Canarsie on weekdays, and have some (L) trips end at Bway Jct.

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A route I posted earlier, but now it's in a post.

 

 

(P) & (X) LINES:

 

 

SEE RUSH HOUR PROJECT FOR OPERATING PATTERN INFO ON THESE LINES:

 

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zDkEJ1d0N4DOh6jpW-S7sDP6zzaIBt1k7Uo9ax-M86I/edit

 

(X)- Originates at Metropolitan Ave. (M) to Myrtle-Bway.

 

(P)- Originates at Bedford-Nostrand Aves.

Then:

Throop Ave (at Lafayette Ave)

Lafayette Ave (at Stuyvestant Ave)

Myrtle Ave

Turns onto Myrtle Ave.

(X)-EXPRESS

(P)-Local

On Myrtle Avenue:

Sumner Ave (Marcus Garvey Blvd)

Tompkins Ave

NOSTRAND AVE

Franklin Ave

Washington Ave

VANDERBILT AVE

Cartlon Ave

N Portland Ave

FLATBUSH AVE

BORO HALL

Travels under East River to:

Grand Ave (at Chrystie St)

Continues onto Second Ave.

(X) runs (Local) on weekdays, (EXPRESS) on weekends.

On 2nd Ave:

HOUSTON ST-SECOND AVE

8 Street

14 Street

23 STREET-WATERSIDE PLAZA

28 Street

34 Street

42 STREET-UN

47 Street

55 STREET

Then, west on 57 Street Crosstown.

Lex Ave

5 Avenue

7 Avenue

9 Avenue

Then, north on Amsterdam Ave.

(X): Local

(P): EXPREES

(I): Local

(H): SUPER EXPRESS (60 Street, then 125 street, then 191 Street.)

60 STREET

66 Street

72 STREET

80 Street

87 Street

96 STREET

106 Street

116 Street

125 STREET

135 Street

145 STREET

155 Street

163 Street

168 STREET-WASHINGTON HTS

174 Street

181 STREET

191 STREET-FT GEORGE

(X): Terminates here all times except rush hrs. Rush hrs to 205 Street via lcl.

(P): To 246 St-M.C. Parckway all times.

 

(X) Stops:

Dykman Street

207 Street

215 Street

225 Street

231 Street

238 Street

Van Cortlandt Ave West

Dickingson Ave

Jerome Ave

Norwood-205 Street

(P) Stops:

Nagle Ave (At Dykman St)

Broadway

Kappock St (At Henry Hudson Pkwy)

231 Street

238 Street

242 Street

246 Street - Manhattan College Parkway

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Why switch the (:P & the (Q) for local/exp?

 

The (Q) would be a 24/7 Brighton Express to Brighton Beach, replacing the weekday (:( Brighton Express on that part. The "Black (V)" would become the 24/7 Brighton Local from Metropolitan Avenue on the Myrtle line via that, the connection previously noted to the current Franklin Avenue (S) and then the Brighton Line to Coney Island (replacing the (Q) on that part and setting it up the way locals were intended to actually be originally) while the (B) would supplement the "Black (V)" as a Monday-Friday Brighton Local, also to Coney Island.

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Yanking thread from the dead...

 

New route: (O) & <O>

 

South Ferry - Co-Op City via LI Expressway

(Italicized stops are express stops)

Stops:

South Ferry (1), (4), (5), (R)

Chambers St

Franklin St

Canal St

Houston St

Christopher St

14 Street - Abingdon Sq

23 Street

28 Street

34 Street

42 Street

49 Street

10 Avenue-53 Street

7 Avenue-53 Street

5 Avenue-53 Street

Lex Avenue-53 Street

Manhattan

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Queens

Court Sq-23 Street (New Lower Level) (E), (M)

47 Avenue

Van Dam St

Greenpoint Avenue

48 Street

58 Street

Maurice Avenue

65 Place

69 Street-Grand Avenue

Mazeau Street

80 Street

Woodhaven Blvd-Queens Center (Exits at Woodhaven Blvd, Junction Blvd, Queens Blvd, H.H. Expressway) (M), (R)

99 Street

108 Street

Meadow Lake Road

Main Street

Kissena Blvd

Holly Avenue

Franklin Avenue

Roosevelt Avenue-Main St (7), <7>

Queens

-------

Bronx

Lafayette Avenue

E Tremont Avenue

Crosby Avenue

Pelham Bay Park

Bartow Avenue - Asch Loop [O]

Drieser Loop

Boston Road

E. 233 St <O>, [O]

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1-UP Mushroom!

 

(M)Crosstown Line

Glen Oaks-266 Street to Fort Hamilton-Roosevelt Lane

Local in Queens and Brooklyn

 

(M)EXP 5 Avenue Express

Lakeville Road to Fort Hamilton-Roosevelt Lane

Express in Queens and Myrtle Ave Line, Local in Brooklyn

 

(M)LCL 5 Avenue Local

Glen Oaks-266 Street to 34 Street-Empire State Building

​Express in Queens and Brooklyn, Local in Manhattan

 

EXPRESS-(M)EXP

Local-( M )(M)LCL

 

Stops-

LAKEVILLE RD/Union Turnpike (M)EXP

All stops on Union Turnpike until noted

GLEN OAKS-263 STREET ( M )(M)LCL

LITTLE NECK PARKWAY

Commonwealth Blvd

Winchester Blvd

231 Street

SPRINGFIELD BLVD

BELL BLVD

Hollis Hills Terrace

195 St

FRANCIS LEWIS BLVD

188 St

182 St

UTOPIA PKWY

170 St

164 St

PARSONS BLVD

150 St

MAIN ST

134 St

KEW GARDENS-QUEENS BLVD

Markwood Rd

METROPOLITAN AVE

71-Continental Aves

WOODHAVEN BLVD

86 St

80 St/Myrtle Ave

All stops on Myrtle Ave until noted

73 Pl

68 St

Elevated track begins.

FRESH POND RD

Forest Ave

Cypress Ave

Tracks from the Rockaway Line merge into Myrtle Ave Line.

MYRTLE-WYCKOFF AVES

Knickerbocker Ave

Central Ave

Tracks from Jamaica Line.

BROADWAY

Marcus Garvey Blvd

Tompkins Ave

Tracks to Crosstown Line.( M )

Nostrand Ave

Franklin Ave

Grand Ave

Tracks from the Lexington Ave Line merge into Myrtle Ave Line.

VANDERBLIT AVE

Navy St

Tracks from 5th Avenue(Bklyn) Line merge into Myrtle Avenue Line. (M)EXP

JAY/BRIDGE STS-METROTECH

BORO HALL/Livingston St

SANDS-NASSAU ST

via Brooklyn Bridge

PARK ROW/Brooklyn Bridge

Elevated track ends.

WORTH ST/Centre St

Tracks to the 5th Ave Line.

GRAND ST-BOWERY

Tracks from the Jamaica Line.

BLEECKER ST-BROADWAY

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Express-(AR) (J) (U)

Local-(KN)( M ) (Z)

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Washington Sq-Waverly Pl/Washington Sq E

14 STREET-UNION SQ/5 Ave (UU)

(UU)-Local

All stops on 5 Ave until terminal.

23 St

34 STREET-EMPIRE STATE BUILDING (M)LCL

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(H) & (I) LINES:

 

 

SEE RUSH HOUR PROJECT FOR OPERATING PATTERN INFO ON THESE LINES:

 

 

https://docs.google....Uo9ax-M86I/edit

 

(H) - Express

Between Sheepshead Bay (IRT-IND-BMT Double Decked/ Underground Terminal)

AND

South Yonkers

Norwood - 205 St

Wave Hill (Rush Hrs)

(I) - Local

Between Sheepshead Bay OR South 4 Street Terminal

AND

Fort George - 191 St

 

STOPS:

(Local, EXPRESS)

(Some transfers are also fantasy routes)

BROOKLYN...

 

SHEEPSHEAD BAY (Transfer to (cool.png, (Q), (8), <8>)

Avenue Z (At Nostrand Ave)

Avenue X (At Nostrand Ave)

AVENUE U (At Nostrand Ave)

Gerritsen Beach (At Ave S & Gerritsen Avenue)

FILLMORE AVE (All stops, until noted are on Utica Ave)

Avenue N

Avenue K-Flatlands Ave

AVENUE H

Avenue D

CHURCH AVE

Winthrop Ave

Empire Bl

CROWN HEIGHTS

Bergen St

FULTON ST (At Stuyvesant Ave, until noted.)

Putnam Ave

Dekalb Ave

MYRTLE AVE (Transfer to (P), (X), (J), (M), (Z))

Flushing Ave

SOUTH 4th STREET-(METROPOLITAN AVENUE) (Transfer to (T), (E), (V)/(U), (G ), (L))

 

 

MANHATTAN...

 

Pearl St (At Frankfort St)

CITY HALL (Transfer to (4), (5), (6), (J), (M ), <R>, (Z))(At Park Row)

World Trade Center-(Park Pl) (At Park Pl)

CHAMBERS ST (Transfer to (K), (HH), (0), (1), (2), (3), (7), <7>, (8), <8>, (9)) (At Greenwich St, until noted.)

CANAL/SPRING STS

Houston St

10 St-Christopher St

14 ST (Transfer to (A), ©, (E)) (10/Amsterdam Ave, until noted.

23 Street

28 Street

34 STREET

42 STREET - JAVITS CENTER

50 Street

60 ST-FORDHAM UNIV. (Transfer to (P), (X)

From here, except late nights, (H ) goes SUPER EXPRESS. These stops are marked like THIS.

66 Street

72 STREET (Transfer to (1 ), (2 ), (3 )

79 Street

86 Street

96 STREET

106 Street

116 Street

125 STREET

135 Street

145 STREET

155 Street

168 STREET (SUPER EXPRESS ON WEEKENDS ONLY)

174 Street

181 STREET

FORT GEORGE - 191 STREET (The (I) & (X - Except Rush Hrs) terminate here.)

H LINE SPLITS INTO BRANCHES.

205 St Branch: (+ (X - Rush Hours Only))

 

Dyckman St

Isham St

Marble Hill

Bronx...

W. 230 St

W. 238 St

Van Cortlandt Av West

Dickingson Ave

Moshulu Parkway

205 Street

 

Riverdale Branches: (+ (P))

Bronx...

 

KAPPOCK ST

Wave Hill:

231 St

245 St

Wave Hill

South Yonkers:

231 St

236 St

MANHATTAN COLLEGE PARKWAY

253 STREET

263 STREET

VALENTINE LANE

S BROADWAY

 

The color for the Amsterdam lines are, at the moment, tan.

K & HH lines coming soon!

 

I've changed this, disregard this post!

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(S)

North Terminal: Bergen Street

South Terminal: Church Avenue

Park Slope Express

 

Fleet

R46A: 4

R46B: 12

Total Consists: 2

 

Purpose/Info

Bypass of Park Slope.

Trains will leave terminals at the same time.

Trains leave terminals every 10 mins.

FastTrack is installed.

 

Route

Church Av: (F)(G)

7 Av: (F)(G)

Bergen Street: (F)(G)

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  • Gun Hill Road (express)
  • (U)210th Street – Williamsbridge (Local)
  • (U)204th Street (local)
  • 200th Street(express)
  • (U)Fordham Road (local)
  • (U)183rd Street (local)
  • 180th Street (local)
  • Tremont Avenue (express)
  • 174th Street (local)
  • Claremont Parkway (local)
  • 169th Street (local)
  • 166th Street (local)
  • 161st Street (local)
  • 156th Street (local)
  • 149th Street (express)
  • 143rd Street (local)
  • 138th Street (local)
  • 125th Street (express)
  • 116th Street (late nights)
  • 106th Street (late nights)
  • 96th Street (express)(local)
  • 86th Street (late nights)
  • 72nd Street (express)(local)
  • 55th Street (late nights)
  • 42nd Street (express)(local)
  • 34th Street (express)(local)
  • 23rd Street (late nights)
  • 14th Street (express)(local)
  • Houston Street (express)(local)
  • Grand Street (express)(local)
  • Chatham Square (express)(local)
  • Broad Street
  • Court Street
  • Jay Street – MetroTech
  • DeKalb Avenue
  • Atlantic Avenue – Pacific Street
  • Union Street (late nights)
  • Ninth Street (late nights)
  • Prospect Avenue (late nights)
  • 25th Street (late nights)
  • 36th Street
  • Ninth Avenue
  • Fort Hamilton Parkway
  • 50th Street
  • 55th Street
  • 62nd Street
  • 71st Street
  • 79th Street
  • 18th Avenue
  • 20th Avenue
  • Bay Parkway
  • 25th Avenue Bay
  • 50th Street
  • Coney Island – Stillwell Avenue

 

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Then why run the Franklin Ave (S) in the first place?

 

 

This is a fantasy plan based upon the idea of having the (S) run, why not make the entire shuttle section 3 tracks and have one set of R68 Shuttle cars run, as the frequencies of the (V) idea would help out the (S).

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This is a fantasy plan based upon the idea of having the (S) run, why not make the entire shuttle section 3 tracks and have one set of R68 Shuttle cars run, as the frequencies of the (V) idea would help out the (S).

 

 

LOL, my plan is to dig a new tunnel under the (S). A new (P) line from Manhattan would run Coney Island-Manhattan.

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Here's one that i'm sure you Junius St riders will enjoy!

 

<L> Departs Canarsie Weekdays at 6:50AM,7:00AM,7:10AM,7:20AM,7:30AM,7:40AM,7:50AM

 

In a nutshell, it goes up the Canarsie Line to Atlantic Ave, where it then goes on the Broadway Express. It then makes local stops after Myrtle Ave. It then goes to West 4th, then to 59th St Columbus Circle via 8th Ave Local. Same applies for opposite direction.

 

Departs 59th St Weekdays at 4:50PM,5:00PM,5:10PM,5:20PM,5:30PM,5:40PM,5:50PM

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<L> Departs Canarsie Weekdays at 6:50AM,7:00AM,7:10AM,7:20AM,7:30AM,7:40AM,7:50AM

 

In a nutshell, it goes up the Canarsie Line to Atlantic Ave, where it then goes on the Broadway Express. It then makes local stops after Myrtle Ave. It then goes to West 4th, then to 59th St Columbus Circle via 8th Ave Local. Same applies for opposite direction.

 

Departs 59th St Weekdays at 4:50PM,5:00PM,5:10PM,5:20PM,5:30PM,5:40PM,5:50PM

 

This definitely could be done as a "Blue (L)."

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That would save soo much time and ease congestion. How about the 9 Train reopening and it goes from St. George SI to either Queens Village or the other side of Riverdale into Westchester. Riverdale would be the easiest it would skip 103rd, 145th, 157th, 181st, 191st, 207th, and run local west of the 1 train in Riverdale up to Weschester. Queens Village it would run on the 7th ave. line to 42nd, Broadway all the way into Queens and and passes Jamaica 179th and make a few stops until it reaches just outside Nassau County ??

 

What ya think ??

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No routes in a while, lemme post 2.

 

<Q> Nassau St Local

Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue, Brooklyn to Chambers Street-Civic Center, Manhattan

via Brighton Local, Manhattan Bridge

Rush Hour service only, other times use [Q].

 

[F] Nassau St Local

Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue, Brooklyn to Chambers Street-Civic Center, Manhattan

via Culver Local, 4th Avenue Local, Montague St Tunnel

Rush Hours only.

 

===================================================================

 

I am gonna start making a track map, of my fantasy NYCT subway plan. I will post it here for everyone to see.

 

Versions will include:

v1=Manhattan

v2=Queens and Nassau

v3=Brooklyn

v4=Bronx and Westchester

v5=Staten Island and New Jersey

 

Expect updates during Fri-Sat-Sun.

v0.1=http://www.mediafire...qmut8lpukp2im9l

Includes a section of Midtown Manhattan.

 

You need JB BAHN for this.

Download here-

http://www.jbss.de/exe/b385r3en.exe

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Which would you rather have, a line running down 14th Avenue or a line down Fort Hamilton Parkway?

 

 

Fort Hamilton, more direct route.

 

Anyway, do you mind taking screenshots and posting them so those who have Mac's or Linux can see as well?

 

(I have a mac, so I am sad...)

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