Thekilomoney11 Posted February 10, 2018 Share #26 Posted February 10, 2018 Fordham Road by the west side of Grand Concourse. I believe they was two entrances before it closed sometime in the early 1990s. One entrance led to the old Alexander's store which is now the P.C Richard & Son store and the other entrance led to the street level by the Bx1/2 bus to Mott Haven. And also Kingsbridge Road there's two exits closed on the south side on Kingsbridge Road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted February 11, 2018 Share #27 Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) The Brooklyn bound platform at 121 St had the easternmost exit closed after it reopened. Edited February 11, 2018 by S78 via Hylan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #28 Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, S78 via Hylan said: The Brooklyn bound platform at 121 St had the easternmost exit closed after it reopened. Why did it close? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 12, 2018 Share #29 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 9:14 PM, Union Tpke said: Why did it close? I'm guessing because the station has low ridership. A lot of the train stations in Queens have low ridership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share #30 Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I'm guessing because the station has low ridership. A lot of the train stations in Queens have low ridership. The timing doesn't make sense. A lot of pressure has been put on the agency to reopen entrances as of late. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabanamaner Posted July 6, 2018 Share #31 Posted July 6, 2018 The 174th-175th Streets station has an additional closed entrance/exit on the southbound platform on the west side of the Grand Concourse, nearest to 174th street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted July 6, 2018 Share #32 Posted July 6, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 2:25 PM, Union Tpke said: The timing doesn't make sense. A lot of pressure has been put on the agency to reopen entrances as of late. Every single additional entrance is more maintenance and more security requirements. Ridership at train stations in Queens is not very high because it doesn't go where most people want to go, and because the ride is so slow compared to taking a bus to the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share #33 Posted July 6, 2018 5 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Every single additional entrance is more maintenance and more security requirements. Ridership at train stations in Queens is not very high because it doesn't go where most people want to go, and because the ride is so slow compared to taking a bus to the . Even so, it doesn't make sense as it makes it harder for riders to get to and from the stations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted July 6, 2018 Share #34 Posted July 6, 2018 Was the south end of 86th Street on the BMT Sea Beach ever an entrance? It looks like an exit near the stairway overpass? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share #35 Posted December 16, 2018 I know this is an "old" thread, but this is the only logical place to put this. @mtattrain and I have added more information. Additional information would be appreciated, including additional locations where entrances used to be, more specific information including street corners, and dates when the entrances in question closed, and if possible, why it closed. Proper citations would be appreciated, whether they are newspaper articles detailing their closure, NYCTA documentation, or images showing their existence. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share #36 Posted December 16, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 7:20 AM, ABOGbrooklyn said: Was the south end of 86th Street on the BMT Sea Beach ever an entrance? It looks like an exit near the stairway overpass? That is an emergency exit. I do not know if that was ever in passenger use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted December 17, 2018 Share #37 Posted December 17, 2018 Ralph Avenue on the has a closed entrance and partly closed mezzanine for Howard Avenue as well as Franklin Avenue (closed entrance for Classon Avenue) and a few other stops in Manhattan (Spring, 50th, 96th, 103rd, 116th, 155th, 163rd). I think these entrances were closed off as part of the TA's efforts to decrease crime on the subway system in the 80's and 90's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted December 17, 2018 Share #38 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) As for closed station entrances, I am well aware Broad Channel has a closed exit only staircase on the northern section of the south-bound platform (I'll try to find more information on it), it isn't an "entrance" but I thought it was worth mentioning since it's no longer used. I think Beach 105 and 98 street stations also have some entrances removed due to the renovation occurring there in 2011-2012. EDIT: Never mind, Latter two stations I mentioned are already on the Wiki page. Another one is the passageway at Aqueduct Racetrack station which has been subsequently removed, the passageway led directly to the racetrack itself and it served as the only entrance to the station until the early 2010's... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Aqueduct_Racetrack_2010_entrance_vc.jpg/800px-Aqueduct_Racetrack_2010_entrance_vc.jpg Edited December 17, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted December 17, 2018 Share #39 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On the topic of walkways/passageways, West 8th also had one that led from the NB Culver platform directly over Surf and the parking lots to the NY Aquarium, but it was removed back in 2013 for structural reasons. Edited December 17, 2018 by R68OnBroadway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted December 17, 2018 Share #40 Posted December 17, 2018 I remember when it was wooden, then they replaced it with the concrete in the mid-70's. Don't know why they didn't just rebuild it. Went to the aquarium the first time since way back then, this summer, and wished it was still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabanamaner Posted December 17, 2018 Share #41 Posted December 17, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 6:13 PM, Thekilomoney11 said: Fordham Road by the west side of Grand Concourse. I believe they was two entrances before it closed sometime in the early 1990s. One entrance led to the old Alexander's store which is now the P.C Richard & Son store and the other entrance led to the street level by the Bx1/2 bus to Mott Haven. And also Kingsbridge Road there's two exits closed on the south side on Kingsbridge Road. I'd argue that one of those closed Fordham Road entrances should be reopened. Given the awkward design of the station, the northern portion of the southbound platform is desolate and disgusting since it no longer has any open staircases. Most of the customers congregate near the southern part of the platform to board the train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 17, 2018 Share #42 Posted December 17, 2018 In looking at the list, here are two others that have been totally eliminated. 25th Avenue . There was an entrance at 26th Avenue but it was removed many years before I moved to the neighborhood in 1957. The steel structure was there for many years which indicated that an entrance existed. Same for Bay 50th Street at the north end of the platform. Avenue X F Line. South end of the platform. Exit to Avenue Y. Again the steel structure was there which indicated an entrance. It was gone by 1957. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share #43 Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Interested Rider said: In looking at the list, here are two others that have been totally eliminated. 25th Avenue . There was an entrance at 26th Avenue but it was removed many years before I moved to the neighborhood in 1957. The steel structure was there for many years which indicated that an entrance existed. Same for Bay 50th Street at the north end of the platform. Avenue X F Line. South end of the platform. Exit to Avenue Y. Again the steel structure was there which indicated an entrance. It was gone by 1957. Thanks so much. Were the entrances at Bay 50th all the way at the end toward Bay 49th or closer to Avenue X? BY any chance, do you know when the steel structures were removed? Thanks a bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 18, 2018 Share #44 Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) The closed entrance on Bay 50th Street was closer to Bay 49th Street. I did not use the West End Line as I lived right across the street from the 86th Street Station but the few times that I was there i remember the steel skeleton.. As far as Avenue X station and the Avenue Y entrance, i can now provide a picture source with a year date. Subway cars of the BMT by James Clifford Greller (n.d.) p. 50 has a picture of Standard 2743 in the Coney Island Yard at Avenue Y and Shell Road. In the left hand corner of the photo, the complete Avenue Y entrance can be seen and it is dated February 22, 1959. What is interesting is that 2743 remained with its silver roof for another couple of years as I remember seeing it at the end of a 2300, 2800 consist heading northbound on the Sea Beach Line at Kings Highway heading for the East New York Yard in 1962. Edited December 18, 2018 by Interested Rider added new information concerning Avenue X station 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share #45 Posted December 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Interested Rider said: The closed entrance on Bay 50th Street was closer to Bay 49th Street. I did not use the West End Line as I lived right across the street from the 86th Street Station but the few times that I was there i remember the steel skeleton.. As far as Avenue X station and the Avenue Y entrance, i can now provide a picture source with a year date. Subway cars of the BMT by James Clifford Greller (n.d.) p. 50 has a picture of Standard 2743 in the Coney Island Yard at Avenue Y and Shell Road. In the left hand corner of the photo, the complete Avenue Y entrance can be seen and it is dated February 22, 1959. What is interesting is that 2743 remained with its silver roof for another couple of years as I remember seeing it at the end of a 2300, 2800 consist heading northbound on the Sea Beach Line at Kings Highway heading for the East New York Yard in 1962. Thanks. I just want to clarify something. The Avenue Y entrance is open in 1959? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 18, 2018 Share #46 Posted December 18, 2018 I honestly do not know as whenever we used the Avenue X station, we exited on the Avenue X side, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share #47 Posted December 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Interested Rider said: I honestly do not know as whenever we used the Avenue X station, we exited on the Avenue X side, I meant, is it clear whether the entrance was open in the picture in the book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 18, 2018 Share #48 Posted December 18, 2018 I cannot answer that question as I do not know the answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share #49 Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Interested Rider said: I cannot answer that question as I do not know the answer I am sorry if I am being bothersome, but are you saying that it cannot be discerned from the image? Thanks for all your help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 18, 2018 Share #50 Posted December 18, 2018 You are not bothering me at all as it is a legitimate question and one that deserves an answer. The structure is there but it cannot be discerned whether the entrance is open or not. If we look at all the elevated BMT stations on the southern division that had entrances at either end, there was always another entrance at the opposite end, When there was an entrance in the middle, there were no entrances at either end. Taking it one step further, unlike most of the stations further north on the West End and Culver Lines, it seems that three stations mentioned did not have the ridership to justify keeping both entrances open. The West End line used elevated cars from Bay Parkway to Coney Island and the Culver line used elevated car shuttles from Kings Highway to Coney Island until the mid 1950's due to a shortage of steel equipment during the rush hours. Another factor could have been that the areas south of Avenue U did not have the ridership which was the reason that the entrances were removed on the West End Line and later on the Culver Line. Neck Road ( Avenue U) on the Culver Line was open full time through the 1950's and most likely into the 1960's when it was cut back to part time. Again, I am unsure of dates as I did ride the line that frequently at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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