Grand Concourse Posted June 27, 2010 Share #51 Posted June 27, 2010 What about the fact that the barn at 207th ONLY works on R32s? I think that's more that enough of a reason to send the R32 from the there. Now explain how 207th is full of shit, I would love to hear your explanation on this one. I don't get this 'hate' either. But then again they don't work for the MTA. I mean even to the average person it should be obvious how little sense it makes to keep an odd ball unit at a yard when another yard has all of that train type. Why keep the odd ball around? Especially with the gone, CI yard will have enough 'extras'. What about the logistical side of having all but 10 R32s at one yard and every time the R32 that was at CIY needed parts they would have to be shipped from 207 a yard that ONLY handles R32s. Also, how can you blame 207th for taking all the R46s when they are only stored there, not mantained. If anything, blame Pitkin or the line managers. Just because foamers want the R32 on the , it does not mean that it should be, it's not not logical.I totally agree. When it comes down to opinions, it's their way or nothing. "Disregard the facts." It's not very logical at all. I mean they could have had R32s on the , but no that would 'kill the R32s'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 CNG Posted June 27, 2010 Share #52 Posted June 27, 2010 Man my T/O friend switched from the to the because he doesn't like the R68's on the ...Now he's screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 27, 2010 Share #53 Posted June 27, 2010 Damn, talk about bad timing. How long will it be till he can switch back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 27, 2010 Share #54 Posted June 27, 2010 Damn, talk about bad timing. How long will it be till he can switch back? 6 months till the new puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted June 27, 2010 Share #55 Posted June 27, 2010 The way how I see, I dont think the MTA ordered enough R160s. They could have atleast got enough to make the N/Q 100% R160. And I thought they wanted Ditmars Blvd a all R160 terminal. And that could have freed up some R68/As for the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 27, 2010 Share #56 Posted June 27, 2010 If they were to make the 600' trains, they'll need to keep those R44s around a bit longer. I would be in favor of more R160s to bump off more R46s from Jamaica yard to give to the and and fully replace all the R44s. *wishful thinking: If the were based from CIY, then that would open up more cars for CI to move around. They can make the all R68s and then those 'extra' R160s would be sent to CI to the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted June 27, 2010 Share #57 Posted June 27, 2010 Keep 68s/68A's on the !:tup::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CulverLineGuy Posted June 27, 2010 Share #58 Posted June 27, 2010 Speaking from a purely superficial, aesthetic point of view; I am happy to once again see R68As on the . But I do like to see them on the as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #59 Posted June 28, 2010 I don't get this 'hate' either. But then again they don't work for the MTA. I mean even to the average person it should be obvious how little sense it makes to keep an odd ball unit at a yard when another yard has all of that train type. Why keep the odd ball around? Especially with the gone, CI yard will have enough 'extras'. I totally agree. When it comes down to opinions, it's their way or nothing. "Disregard the facts." It's not very logical at all. I mean they could have had R32s on the , but no that would 'kill the R32s'. Okay first off, the reason why I said what I said because 207th likes to hog all the good equipment, 1st off they should have given Jamaica Back that R32 for as well as 207th, yeah its logical to have one car type at 207th but they don't need all of the R32's, If anything the and should be 100% R46's and the Displaced R32's would go to Jamaica along with some extra CI R160's, CI Still have extra trains, And yes It would make more sence to have them on the ( or the , Atlest Jamaica knows how to run a railroad. if 207th has 240 R32's plus 8 cars that are retierd and 4-5 trainsets of R46's that is kinda being greedy, Pitkin and 207th has 416 R46's, That's More than enough to cover the whole line, They are Not going to need the R32's for the , the runs 18 8 car Trainsets of R32's, Now if they run 18 trainsets of 10 car R32's That's still enough to have the go 10 cars (that's 180 R32 cars plus 26 cars for spares) the remaining R32's should be at Jamaica for extra For Back up/® servicve, Like I said before 207th don't need all those godamn R32's, who gives a shit, Im sick of the anyway, Nothing But timers, Atleast on the fly into stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 28, 2010 Share #60 Posted June 28, 2010 Like I said before 207th don't need all those godamn R32's, who gives a shit, Im sick of the anyway, Nothing But timers, Atleast on the fly into stations. Obviously you do because you keep bitching about this stuff. Also have you ever heard of punctuation, it's almost impossible to read what you write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted June 28, 2010 Share #61 Posted June 28, 2010 That plus at least now the will at least be 'interesting' again. The interesting when it ran R32/R40M/R40S/R42/R68/R68A all @ once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted June 28, 2010 Share #62 Posted June 28, 2010 Is there any R68s on the (Not R68As I know for sure there's R68As)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 28, 2010 Share #63 Posted June 28, 2010 I heard there are now 48 R68As on the and the crews now have to have their brake handles, reverses, and sign keys with them at all times. They were always supposed to have those things all times, regardless.I was hoping, that if they got rid of the 32's and 42's, then you would only have the 68's concentrated in one area (, and the few spilling over to the , (and in the A div. the 62's on ), then they might lighten the requirement on those not picking in those sections. Or at least give us the plastic handles they were testing; so at least we would have something in case we ended up on one of those trains, yet the handles wouldn't be used that much (the apparently didn't pass the test, and I imagine might not be good for heavy use). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 28, 2010 Share #64 Posted June 28, 2010 The interesting when it ran R32/R40M/R40S/R42/R68/R68A all @ once!Now those were the days! The was also awesome when it had R32/38/40S/40M/42/44s. I'm not sure if they all ran at the same time, but at least they ran close enough 'at one moment in time'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 28, 2010 Share #65 Posted June 28, 2010 They were always supposed to have those things all times, regardless. I was told a memo went out stating that, I think some crews got a little laxed because of the R160s always being on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 28, 2010 Share #66 Posted June 28, 2010 Okay first off, the reason why I said what I said because 207th likes to hog all the good equipment, 1st off they should have given Jamaica Back that R32 for as well as 207th, yeah its logical to have one car type at 207th but they don't need all of the R32's, If anything the and should be 100% R46's and the Displaced R32's would go to Jamaica along with some extra CI R160's, CI Still have extra trains, And yes It would make more sence to have them on the ( or the , Atlest Jamaica knows how to run a railroad. if 207th has 240 R32's plus 8 cars that are retierd and 4-5 trainsets of R46's that is kinda being greedy, Pitkin and 207th has 416 R46's, That's More than enough to cover the whole line, They are Not going to need the R32's for the , the runs 18 8 car Trainsets of R32's, Now if they run 18 trainsets of 10 car R32's That's still enough to have the go 10 cars (that's 180 R32 cars plus 26 cars for spares) the remaining R32's should be at Jamaica for extra For Back up/® servicve, Like I said before 207th don't need all those godamn R32's, who gives a shit, Im sick of the anyway, Nothing But timers, Atleast on the fly into stations. Last time R32s were at Jamaica yard, they had a/c problems which pretty much forced them off the combined with the idiocy involving the placement of the R40s/42 c/r placement on the . Even with the R46s moving to the this weekend, there's not going to be enough to retire both the R44s and allow to be 600' trains. I don't see the point of taking the R32s off the . Yes the does suck, but at least it has one redeeming quality: east of Grant Av for the above ground stations and the ride over the bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 28, 2010 Share #67 Posted June 28, 2010 Now those were the days! The was also awesome when it had R32/38/40S/40M/42/44s. I'm not sure if they all ran at the same time, but at least they ran close enough 'at one moment in time'. During December 2008 the 32s were gone from 207th/Pitkin. So it was all of the above except for R32s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 28, 2010 Share #68 Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks. That was probably the best time to fan the line. Now I'm really kicking myself for not going out to the Rocks more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted June 28, 2010 Share #69 Posted June 28, 2010 anyone answer my questions about R68s on the (Not R68As I posted before)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted June 28, 2010 Share #70 Posted June 28, 2010 anyone answer my questions about R68s on the (Not R68As I posted before)? I would say the majority if not all, of Coney Island's R68s are on the (. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted June 28, 2010 Share #71 Posted June 28, 2010 I have heard both that it means there is a 3rd compressor on the set and I have also heard it does not mean that. I could find out this week. Jamaica had an R46 set with a 3rd compressor,it was on the line.don't remember the car numbers or if it still has the compressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted June 28, 2010 Share #72 Posted June 28, 2010 According to thejoecorner the have 41 trains at peak time. Coney Island Yard has 480 R160's, according to the data sheet. Seems like NTT's will end up on another CI line since the will be half and half. The only thing I can't factor in is how many extra trains the will run because of it being a Broadway local, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 28, 2010 Share #73 Posted June 28, 2010 But remember that number includes spares which means not all of them will run at the same time. And if you take about all but 2-3 trains the had and put them on the , that pretty much means you only have that many extras left. Which means only 2-3 more R68/As are freed up. There won't be any other lines using R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 28, 2010 Share #74 Posted June 28, 2010 Jamaica had an R46 set with a 3rd compressor,it was on the line.don't remember the car numbers or if it still has the compressor. I think they did the same to several sets as a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBus 5121 Posted June 28, 2010 Share #75 Posted June 28, 2010 I wondering if things will be really interesting on monday. According to Joe Korner, the W required 10 R160A/B trainsets. Even with the Q maybe gaining a few trainsets (maybe like 4 or 5) for like 22 to 23 trains in service and even if the N gets maybe 1 or 2, there is still like 3 trainsets unused from the W (or whatever number it is). If the N is going to be half and half or mostly R68/A, then there could be a possibility that some are going to the B (since the B is a part-time line but with multiple terminals) or to Jamaica. Who knows. Just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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