East New York Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share #426 Posted April 26, 2011 I guess the and MCI have kissed and made up from the problems they have been having in the last couple of years. It'll be good to have some more new MCI's in the fleet and more variety in the Express Bus department with Prevost in the picture. Thanks for the update ENY. :tup: We shall see! http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted April 26, 2011 Share #427 Posted April 26, 2011 Why did the TA switch to Alcoas? I'm still trying to piece together how an Orion VII or C40LF would look with the cast iron rims. Trying to look for that post that explained how the Alcoas heated up more quickly on city buses because they stopped more frequently, but that LI's Orions went farther without stopping and were fine with the Alcoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2011 Share #428 Posted April 26, 2011 Why did the TA switch to Alcoas? They didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted April 26, 2011 Share #429 Posted April 26, 2011 So why are all these buses coming in riding on different rims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2011 Share #430 Posted April 26, 2011 So why are all these buses coming in riding on different rims? Demo units = Manufacturer standards with or without Alcoas Production units = Cast Iron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted April 26, 2011 Share #431 Posted April 26, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2011 Share #432 Posted April 26, 2011 Speaking of that, I take it the Bee-Line buses are finally getting cast iron rims, which strikes me as a leap of faith as I thought they'd be gone before they got the chance. 105 had the cast irons when I shot it last week. I think Joel is referring to the fact the 1700s and 1800s are on Alcoas, however. LGA's buses got cast iron while Baisley Park's batch got Alcoas. I would assume the 1700s and 1800s got Alcoas for uniformity, especially since the 1800s were federally funded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted April 26, 2011 Share #433 Posted April 26, 2011 Even LIB/MSBA had the five-spoke (hole?) rims until the first batch of Orion V CNGs arrived in 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share #434 Posted April 27, 2011 Speaking of that, I take it the Bee-Line buses are finally getting cast iron rims, which strikes me as a leap of faith as I thought they'd be gone before they got the chance. 105 had the cast irons when I shot it last week. I think Joel is referring to the fact the 1700s and 1800s are on Alcoas, however. I think he was talking about the recent TA demos. All of which had Alcoas. LIB has been using them for nearly 20 years now. Even LIB/MSBA had the five-spoke (hole?) rims until the first batch of Orion V CNGs arrived in 1992. Cast Iron was the most popular choice over the years by far. However in the 90's, and now to a greater extent in the 2000's, many agencies are going with the Alcoas. This is being pioneered by New Flyer, which now seems to have more customers opting for them than not. I know a couple TA's that have had Cast for their entire existance, and are now getting Alcoas on their NF's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share #435 Posted April 29, 2011 I just want to clear this up one final time. Yes, the new CNG order is competitive, yet "on paper" only. If it was truely "fair game" then I would not already know who the order was going to! When the black and white comes out, I will explain it all in detail, as I am not at liberty to discuss it publicly at this point in time. Actually, I'm going to post on the subject a few days before the official documents are posted just to prove a point yet again. Smh... As I have said before, some people will never get the picture until they see the flash! Cue the cameras please! Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted April 29, 2011 Share #436 Posted April 29, 2011 I just want to clear this up one final time. Yes, the new CNG order is competitive, yet "on paper" only. If it was truely "fair game" then I would not already know who the order was going to! When the black and white comes out, I will explain it all in detail, as I am not at liberty to discuss it publicly at this point in time. Actually, I'm going to post on the subject a few days before the official documents are posted just to prove a point yet again. Smh... As I have said before, some people will never get the picture until they see the flash! Cue the cameras please! Stay tuned! When is the news supposed to come out as to who's getting the 74 + 30 option order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share #437 Posted April 29, 2011 When is the news supposed to come out as to who's getting the 74 + 30 option order? Within the next 60 days it should be public IIRC. I'm not at home right now, so I don't have it in front of me. As far as who it's going to..... you'll have to wait and see my friend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted April 29, 2011 Share #438 Posted April 29, 2011 Within the next 60 days it should be public IIRC. I'm not at home right now, so I don't have it in front of me. As far as who it's going to..... you'll have to wait and see my friend!! Aww man! LOL Nah it's cool, I'm looking forward to hearing who gets the rest of the CNG order in the proper time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share #439 Posted May 7, 2011 Current Orders 135 New Flyer C40LF's 90 Nova LFS' (delivery 65% complete) 90 New Flyer XD40's 90 Orion VII E10/3G's 90 Prevost X3-45's 60 MCI D4500CT's Confirmed upcoming orders (Revised). (Months shown reflect current award "due by" date.) -June 171 40 footers for NYCT. 70 buses to be delivered by January 2012. The remainder due by June 2012. 83 40 foot CNG's for MTAB (Award behind schedule) (These buses are New Flyer Options) -July 60 MCI D4500CT's. To be delivered by December 2011/January 2012 -August 90 New Flyer Xcelsior Articulated buses. 45 due to be delivered by August 2012, with the remainder due by January of 2013 328 Novabus LFS Articulated buses. (Award behind schedule) -November 64 40 foot CNG buses. Total order delivery expected by January 2013 -December 104 40 foot buses. Delivery schedule TBA -January 2012 99 Express coaches. The first 48 buses are due to be delivered by January 2013 -February 2012 89 Additional Express coaches. Delivery schedule TBA I originally posted a few months ago that the TA would be taking delivery of 60 new express buses. Then I posted that it was increased to 99 units. I just clarified that the TA will take delivery of 60 new coaches under a previous agreement with MCI. (5 coaches have not been added to the order.) The order for 99 additional coaches still stands, and is due for award by years end/January. I am also being told that the 90 New Flyer Xcelsior artics are now due to begin delivery by summer 2012. The pilots are expected by the beginning of 2012. All details should be confirmed by July. Dates are pending contract award, and pilot acceptance. The FTA funded order for 73 Base, 30 Option CNG 40 foot contract: TBA Note: All bus orders above have been confirmed. Dates of award, delivery schedule, and technical details subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted May 8, 2011 Share #440 Posted May 8, 2011 DAMN. We're gettting a hella-lot of new buses this year to first quater 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 23, 2011 Share #441 Posted May 23, 2011 DAMN.We're gettting a hella-lot of new buses this year to first quater 2012! that must mean that Eastchester and ENY is gonna have a hell of a lot of OT available in the coming months...i might have to put in for a transfer lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted May 24, 2011 Share #442 Posted May 24, 2011 Extra set of tags in the XD60 image, and these bus orders (except the Prevost) are coming with framed windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted May 24, 2011 Share #443 Posted May 24, 2011 when BP gets the artics imma be out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share #444 Posted May 24, 2011 Extra set of tags in the XD60 image, and these bus orders (except the Prevost) are coming with framed windows? Thanks. The Orion's will be the only ones that have framed windows from what I understand. when BP gets the artics imma be out there. I really hope they get New Flyers, and JFK gets Nova's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R22 Shoal Point Posted May 24, 2011 Share #445 Posted May 24, 2011 Brampton and Oakville Ontario just took delivery of their XD40s. Here are some photos: Brampton Transit 1101 by apta_2050, on Flickr IMG_0133 by ontariobus, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 24, 2011 Share #446 Posted May 24, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus Guy Posted May 24, 2011 Share #447 Posted May 24, 2011 Those XD40s do not look good with the rimmed windows, hopefully our Xcelsiors skip that option... The front end is fine with framed its just the back since it has the lines for frameless windows over say the LFR sides and if it wasnt for that it would be able to pull off framed windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted May 27, 2011 Share #448 Posted May 27, 2011 Those XD40s do not look good with the rimmed windows, hopefully our Xcelsiors skip that option... The Brampton units look good because they have window trim. Too bad that Oakville Transit doesn't believe in window trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share #449 Posted May 29, 2011 So, I was just looking through some documents for the 90 New Flyer Xcelsior artic order, and I noticed the procurement price is significantly higher than that of the Nova order. About $70,000 per bus give or take. Makes me wonder if they will be CNG's in the end.........:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 30, 2011 Share #450 Posted May 30, 2011 So, I was just looking through some documents for the 90 New Flyer Xcelsior artic order, and I noticed the procurement price is significantly higher than that of the Nova order. About $70,000 per bus give or take. Makes me wonder if they will be CNG's in the end.........:confused: than off to West Farms they go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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