Princelex Posted July 8, 2011 Share #476 Posted July 8, 2011 Could the new Orion VII E10/3G's that MTA will soon take delivery of be the best buses to come out of Daimler Buses North America? Ever? Short Answer: Yes! XD60>Shaker Test>Pass!:cool: Wow, this is some exciting news!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 8, 2011 Share #477 Posted July 8, 2011 XD60>Shaker Test>Pass!:cool: So they are gonna be diesel, not CNG like we first thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share #478 Posted July 9, 2011 So they are gonna be diesel, not CNG like we first thought? Yes, I am being told diesel. It was never really clear at first as these will be the first diesel Xcelsior artics off the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 9, 2011 Share #479 Posted July 9, 2011 Yes, I am being told diesel. It was never really clear at first as these will be the first diesel Xcelsior artics off the line. so when are we gonna see the first 1 roaming the city streets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share #480 Posted July 9, 2011 so when are we gonna see the first 1 roaming the city streets? 2 pilots are due next spring, with delivery starting in August. But that is subject to change at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted July 9, 2011 Share #481 Posted July 9, 2011 I aint gonna lie but all this news is Overwhelming I can't wait to see these Besides the new RTS and these I am excited to the (Mx)ax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share #482 Posted July 10, 2011 I aint gonna lie but all this news is Overwhelming I can't wait to see these Besides the new RTS and these I am excited to the (Mx)ax Now the pilots for this one (XD40) are due in in a couple weeks, and delivery of the 90 are due to begin next month!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transit bx Posted July 10, 2011 Share #483 Posted July 10, 2011 Now the pilots for this one (XD40) are due in in a couple weeks, and delivery of the 90 are due to begin next month!:cool: What depots will the buses end up at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 10, 2011 Share #484 Posted July 10, 2011 What depots will the buses end up at? CAS, UP and QV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 11, 2011 Share #485 Posted July 11, 2011 CAS, UP and QV. that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted July 11, 2011 Share #486 Posted July 11, 2011 that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... It's what's outlined in the 90 bus test program. It would be nice for all 360 buses to be spread across the system but they will be confined to CA, UP and QV unfortunately. The other depots will definitely see new buses when the next CNG, LFSA and MCI order comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted July 11, 2011 Share #487 Posted July 11, 2011 I just hope the 3G CNGs turn out like the '11 NG CNGs here - just with a different seat configuration. Those things have smooth rides for low floors. You seriously will hate that rear grille, though, be forewarned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share #488 Posted July 11, 2011 What depots will the buses end up at? that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... 40 Foot Bus Test & Evaluation Program (30 buses each depot) Novabus LFS • 8000-8029: Castleton (May) • 8030-8059: Ulmer Park (May - June) • 8060-8089: Queens Village (July) New Flyer XD40 • 4810-4839: Castleton (August - October) • 4840-4869: Ulmer Park (October - November) • 4870-4899: Queens Village (November - December) Orion VII E10/3G • 7000-7029: Castleton (September - October) • 7030-7059: Ulmer Park (October - November) • 7060-7089: Queens Village (November - December) 45 Foot Express BT&E Prevost X3-45 • 2400-2449: Yukon (50) : (October - December) • 2450-2489: Ulmer Park (40) : (December 2011 - January 2012) 60 Foot BT&E (Depot Assignments To Be Announced) New Flyer XD60 • 5770-5859: (June 2012 - January 2013) *Subject to change* I just hope the 3G CNGs turn out like the '11 NG CNGs here - just with a different seat configuration. Those things have smooth rides for low floors. You seriously will hate that rear grille, though, be forewarned. I actually like it.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted July 11, 2011 Share #489 Posted July 11, 2011 that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... Um, QV hasn't gotten anything new since the original VII OG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted July 11, 2011 Share #490 Posted July 11, 2011 that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... Part of the reason why CAS, UP & QV are assigned to get these buses are in terms of balancing fleet age. CAS needs them possibly to bump off some of their 6000's to other depots to retire the 600's that are left in the fleet. UP & QV have got some/most of the oldest buses in the system now & they need to be replaced eventally. As a matter of fact Until the LFS UP haven't recieved any new batches of buses since the 96's RTS. As for QV they haven't gotten anything since the OG's (as mentioned above). So if any two buses needed new buses it would be UP & QV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 11, 2011 Share #491 Posted July 11, 2011 Um, QV hasn't gotten anything new since the original VII OG. Part of the reason why CAS, UP & QV are assigned to get these buses are in terms of balancing fleet age. CAS needs them possibly to bump off some of their 6000's to other depots to retire the 600's that are left in the fleet. UP & QV have got some/most of the oldest buses in the system now & they need to be replaced eventally. As a matter of fact Until the LFS UP haven't recieved any new batches of buses since the 96's RTS. As for QV they haven't gotten anything since the OG's (as mentioned above). So if any two buses needed new buses it would be UP & QV. the only reason QV hasn't taken delivery of their 30 Nova LFS's is b/c Nova is going through all of the buses to make sure they catch all of the manufacturing defects that they know of (panels falling off, ac compressor plate shearing the bolt heads off, drive shafts falling out etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted July 11, 2011 Share #492 Posted July 11, 2011 the only reason QV hasn't taken delivery of their 30 Nova LFS's is b/c Nova is going through all of the buses to make sure they catch all of the manufacturing defects that they know of (panels falling off, ac compressor plate shearing the bolt heads off, drive shafts falling out etc...) 30 buses isn't gonna cut it. They have at least 70 buses that need to be retired because of age. This is a golden opportunity to test out new buses and directly knock out the older ones in one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartmn1210 Posted July 12, 2011 Share #493 Posted July 12, 2011 that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... Cas, UP, n QV are designated TRANSIT test depots. Again these buses are all test buses. The NOVAS at CAS are different designs from the NOVAS at UP and from QV. they all have differences some obvious others not. Thats the reason for the test depots. IMO I really think they should take at least one operator from each division to the purchase/spec meetings for the only true input that makes sense! I mean, we are the ones on the damn buses all day everyday. We can tell them things about the buses that the pencil pushers couldn't even fathom!!! LOL B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted July 12, 2011 Share #494 Posted July 12, 2011 What buses was tested at MTABus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 12, 2011 Share #495 Posted July 12, 2011 that doesn't make sense...why would they send 90 more brand new buses to 3 depots that just took delivery of brand new buses. if it were up to me i would send 30 to ENY, 30 to CS, and 30 to MJQ... IDK about those other two depots, but UP needs at least the other 30 buses to retire those old 96 Novas that are there. Its gonna be interesting to see what buses the 30 Orions will push out though. What buses was tested at MTABus? 055 @ JFK and the NG demo @ BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted July 12, 2011 Share #496 Posted July 12, 2011 IDK about those other two depots, but UP needs at least the other 30 buses to retire those old 96 Novas that are there. Its gonna be interesting to see what buses the 30 Orions will push out though. 055 @ JFK and the NG demo @ BP. There were three demos at Baisley Park tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 15, 2011 Share #497 Posted July 15, 2011 The Prevost X3-45 pilot (2400) has been sighted near Quebec City a few days ago. Check out the link and the picture (by Jean-Francois Brulotte from autoroutes.info) The f*ck?! I already don't like the look (if that is our unit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted July 15, 2011 Share #498 Posted July 15, 2011 The f*ck?! I already don't like the look (if that is our unit) They should move the stripe up. Black decals won't fix this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share #499 Posted July 15, 2011 The f*ck?! I already don't like the look (if that is our unit) Yep! That's the pilot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 15, 2011 Share #500 Posted July 15, 2011 Looks hot! I can't wait till it gets to Yukon! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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