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If all the buses are concentrated in certain areas, and mixed in others, you can keep all types of costs low, and provide quality service to customers via buses that are built for specific areas/routes of the city.

 

Bronx Division

 

* Eastchester Bus Depot - RTS LF

* Gun Hill Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFS, Orion VII

* Kingsbridge Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFS, Orion VII

* Mother Clara Hale Bus Depot - TBA

* West Farms Bus Depot - New Flyer C40LFR, XC60, Orion VII CNG

* Yonkers Bus Depot - Express

 

Brooklyn Division

 

* East New York Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF, Orion VII

* Flatbush Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF, Orion VII

* Fresh Pond Bus Depot - RTS LF, XD40, Orion VII

* Grand Avenue Bus Depot - Nova LFS, LFSA, Orion VII

* Jackie Gleason Bus Depot - C40LF, C40LFR, XC60

* Spring Creek Bus Depot - C40LFR, Orion VII CNG

* Ulmer Park Bus Depot - MCI, Nova LFS, Prevost, RTS 06, RTS LF

 

Manhattan Division

 

* 100th Street Bus Depot - Nova LFSA

* 126th Street Bus Depot - Nova LFS, LFSA

* Manhattanville Bus Depot - Orion VII, XDE60

* Michael J. Quill Bus Depot - Nova LFSA, Orion VII, RTS LF HEV

 

Nassau Division

 

* Mitchel Field Depot - Orion VII

* Rockville Centre Depot - Orion VII

 

Queens Division

 

* Baisley Park Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFSA, Orion VII

* Casey Stengel Bus Depot - XD/XDE40, Orion VII

* College Point Bus Depot - C40LFR, XC60, RTS LF-CNG

* Far Rockaway Bus Depot - Orion VII, RTS LF

* Jamaica Bus Depot - Orion VII, XD40, RTS 06

* JFK Bus Depot - Nova LFSA, RTS LF, Orion VII

* LaGuardia Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF

* Queens Village Bus Depot - RTS 06, Orion VII, XD40

 

Staten Island Division

 

* Castleton Bus Depot - Orion VII, RTS LF

* Charleston Bus Annex - Orion V, Orion VII

* Meredith Bus Depot - Express

* Yukon Bus Depot - Orion V, Orion VII, RTS LF

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If all the buses are concentrated in certain areas, and mixed in others, you can keep all types of costs low, and provide quality service to customers via buses that are built for specific areas/routes of the city.

 

Bronx Division

 

* Eastchester Bus Depot - RTS LF

* Gun Hill Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFS, Orion VII

* Kingsbridge Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFS, Orion VII

* Mother Clara Hale Bus Depot - TBA

* West Farms Bus Depot - New Flyer C40LFR, XC60, Orion VII CNG

* Yonkers Bus Depot - Express

 

Brooklyn Division

 

* East New York Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF, Orion VII

* Flatbush Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF, Orion VII

* Fresh Pond Bus Depot - RTS LF, XD40, Orion VII

* Grand Avenue Bus Depot - Nova LFS, LFSA, Orion VII

* Jackie Gleason Bus Depot - C40LF, C40LFR, XC60

* Spring Creek Bus Depot - C40LFR, Orion VII CNG

* Ulmer Park Bus Depot - MCI, Nova LFS, Prevost, RTS 06, RTS LF

 

Manhattan Division

 

* 100th Street Bus Depot - Nova LFSA

* 126th Street Bus Depot - Nova LFS, LFSA

* Manhattanville Bus Depot - Orion VII, XDE60

* Michael J. Quill Bus Depot - Nova LFSA, Orion VII, RTS LF HEV

 

Nassau Division

 

* Mitchel Field Depot - Orion VII

* Rockville Centre Depot - Orion VII

 

Queens Division

 

* Baisley Park Bus Depot - New Flyer D60HF, Nova LFSA, Orion VII

* Casey Stengel Bus Depot - XD/XDE40, Orion VII

* College Point Bus Depot - C40LFR, XC60, RTS LF-CNG

* Far Rockaway Bus Depot - Orion VII, RTS LF

* Jamaica Bus Depot - Orion VII, XD40, RTS 06

* JFK Bus Depot - Nova LFSA, RTS LF, Orion VII

* LaGuardia Bus Depot - RTS 06, RTS LF

* Queens Village Bus Depot - RTS 06, Orion VII, XD40

 

Staten Island Division

 

* Castleton Bus Depot - Orion VII, RTS LF

* Charleston Bus Annex - Orion V, Orion VII

* Meredith Bus Depot - Express

* Yukon Bus Depot - Orion V, Orion VII, RTS LF

 

Cool stuff but what about the New Flyer D40LFR?

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ENY, I heard from a friend of mine that the 270 buses we are getting are the last of any new bus that we are getting for a while because of how financially strapped the (MTA) is. Is that true? I thought there was separate money from ordering buses and trains?

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Well Nova fans, there should be 3 buses on their way to S.Plainfield for delivery preparation today. Will confirm on Monday they actually left. 2 will be from the ThermoKing group and 1 from the Carrier group. Looks like they are pushing to ship 2 buses per day starting on Monday as well until caught up with their schedule (roughly end of March). As you start to see them, please let me know I would like to get everyone's impression on these.

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Staten Island Division

 

* Castleton Bus Depot - Orion VII, RTS LF

* Charleston Bus Annex - Orion V, Orion VII

* Meredith Bus Depot - Express

* Yukon Bus Depot - Orion V, Orion VII, RTS LF

 

In regards to Staten Island I'd give Charleston Nova LFS and LFSA since the S79 +SBS is not officially dead and Yukon may not be equipped to handle Artics of any kind. As for Castleton and Yukon they can have the 3Gs and maybe some LFS.

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ENY, I heard from a friend of mine that the 270 buses we are getting are the last of any new bus that we are getting for a while because of how financially strapped the (MTA) is. Is that true? I thought there was separate money from ordering buses and trains?

 

That is untrue as they are getting more CNGs, Express coaches and will be placing bids for more Articulated buses later this year. Also the buses are purchased through the Capital Construction plan, not the operational budget.

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That is untrue as they are getting more CNGs, Express coaches and will be placing bids for more Articulated buses later this year. Also the buses are purchased through the Capital Construction plan, not the operational budget.

Ahhh that's what I needed to know right there. Thanks trainspot12!

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Update on Nova's deliveries for test fleet. 1 bus left on Sunday, 1 left yesterday and there are 3 more in the parking lot waiting for drivers...

 

I have some questions....

 

The rear doors on the Nova LFS 40 foot order, is it open inward or outward?

 

Second, there is a newspaper report in your area (http://pressrepublican.com/new_today/x10251636/Nova-Bus-announces-order-for-90-buses), that MTA is "may" consider ordering more artics with them, any details on that?

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I have some questions....

 

The rear doors on the Nova LFS 40 foot order, is it open inward or outward?

 

Second, there is a newspaper report in your area (http://pressrepublican.com/new_today/x10251636/Nova-Bus-announces-order-for-90-buses), that MTA is "may" consider ordering more artics with them, any details on that?

 

If memory serves me right all of the doors open inward.

 

The article is obviously late since Nova has already started to deliver the test fleet for 40ft buses. As for the artics most of what I know has come from this forum. Last I heard was the MTA was looking to order 385 artics and they were going to Nova. This could go infront of the board as soon as this month for approval.

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The next awards will be for...

 

79 CNG's. Previously expected to be for a total of 83 buses. I'm not sure how this one will turn out.

104 CNG's. (74 base, 30 options) Award now delayed, and now expected by November. *The MTA has decided they do not want to put this order out for bid. It will now most likely be sole sourced from either Orion or New Flyer. Buses will be funded 80% by the government, and 20% by MTA.

 

90 Articulated Buses. Award now expected by June at the latest. Possibly a test fleet of XC60's.

328 Artics. Award extected by July.

 

60 Express Coaches. Award expected soon.

 

 

Future demo buses....

 

Nova LFS Hybrid.

MTS RTS Low Floor diesel. Late 2012, Early 2013.

 

* In other news, 34th Street SBS is now expected to be up and running this fall.

* 2 C40LFR Pilots coming soon to complete acceptance testing at Spring Creek, West Farms, and Zerega.

 

ENY, I heard from a friend of mine that the 270 buses we are getting are the last of any new bus that we are getting for a while because of how financially strapped the (MTA) is. Is that true? I thought there was separate money from ordering buses and trains?

 

For the most part, this is correct, but it has nothing to do with funding. For right now, the test buses, new CNG's, and new articulated coaches will meet the requirements needed at this point. After that more buses will be coming in as needed. But it will be a while before that happpens.

 

The TA will also be overhauling some RTS', Orion V's, and New Flyer D60HF's to extend the life of some of them.

Yesterday I saw Baisley Park's roof being "something'd", it has this big white thing on it with tons (around 10-15) of workers on top.

I guess this has something to do with this thread (artics?).

 

A few depots will undergo various upgrades. Included will be Baisley Park, College Point, East New York, JFK, LaGuardia, and Spring Creek.

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