SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Lawrence St]

Nvm.

Edited April 7, 2023 by Lawrence St

[GojiMet86]

14 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

There's an reddit thread about this, but it hasn’t had an update in a while.

Otherwise, there's no tracker for subway cars for the public like they there is for the buses.

Best bet is to wait at Atlantic Ave until it shows up, or you can ask the NYCT twitter page.

 

Don't ask the official NYCT twitter for the location of a specific trains. That is a twitter page for real information, not for wasting resources to placate teenage railfans.

[RandomRider0101]

2 hours ago, NBTA said:

Hello.

Theres an R46 on the as of this moment. 

 

2 hours ago, Vulturious said:

It's funny 'cause I saw an R46 at Concourse yard earlier (sometime around 2:30PM), and I was wondering what it was doing there.

One of the numbers was 5578; can anyone on here confirm the numbers of this train currently on the ?

 

[Reptile]

1 hour ago, trainfan22 said:

There's an reddit thread about this, but it hasn’t had an update in a while.

 

 

Otherwise, there's no tracker for subway cars for the public like there is for the buses.

 

Best bet is to wait at Atlantic Ave until it shows up, or you can ask the NYCT twitter page.

 

Will it be running tommorow then? I have no time to go down there just to see it

[R32 3838]

14 minutes ago, Reptile said:

Will it be running tommorow then? I have no time to go down there just to see it

trains don't run on weekends, you got to wait until monday morning.

[Reptile]

10 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

trains don't run on weekends, you got to wait until monday morning.

Oops forgot it was Friday, hopefully the shortage is still there over the weekend

[Chris89292]

21 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

trains don't run on weekends, you got to wait until monday morning.

Pretty sure this is a one time event only, eventually the R46 set will return on the  or  

[R32 3838]

3 minutes ago, Chris89292 said:

Pretty sure this is a one time event only, eventually the R46 set will return on the  or  

it's in concourse yard right now and there's a GO on the concourse this weekend. unless they deadhead the train before the GO starts, it'll run in service Monday morning.

[trainfan22]

Thanks to G.Os over the past couple of years, technically it's been possible to ride R46 on the line trackage over the years.

 

Brighton Express - via Brighton G.O

 

6th Ave - via 6th Ave G.O

 

Concourse - to 205th G.O

 

Under normal circumstances, one would be able to ride between Propect Park - DeKalb on the and CPW on the

 

 

Except for 47th-50th - 59th Street, I ridden an R46 over 98 percent of the line route without officially riding an R46 train. 

 

[R32 3838]

it looks like that R46 deadheaded back to CIY according to someone in a group chat. person took a photo of it deadheading.

[Vulturious]

[Trainmaster5]

5 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Listen I don’t need your sarcasm. Brooklyn Bridge is a complex with Chambers St and collectively known as Brooklyn Bridge-Chambers St. 

 Collectively known by whom ? Not in the real world. What BMT train stops at Brooklyn Bridge ? Back when I was a RR Porter I cleaned the Chambers St BMT station overnight. The work program was in a booth on the BMT side. My neighbor cleaned the IRT Brooklyn Bridge station that same night. 8 PM-4AM . His work program was in the booth at the south end of the IRT station. 

[Lawrence St]

1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said:

 Collectively known by whom ? Not in the real world. What BMT train stops at Brooklyn Bridge ? Back when I was a RR Porter I cleaned the Chambers St BMT station overnight. The work program was in a booth on the BMT side. My neighbor cleaned the IRT Brooklyn Bridge station that same night. 8 PM-4AM . His work program was in the booth at the south end of the IRT station. 

By most commuters. If you say Brooklyn Bridge their gonna ask you the  or the ? Even the complex is named Brooklyn Bridge-Chambers St.

[Lex]

24 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

By most commuters. If you say Brooklyn Bridge their gonna ask you the  or the ? Even the complex is named Brooklyn Bridge-Chambers St.

[citation needed]

[Lawrence St]

3 minutes ago, Lex said:

[citation needed]

oh sorry let me go ask people and record it on a poll and post the results here

[Trainmaster5]

37 minutes ago, Lex said:

[citation needed]

I know that the  ,  and the  stop at Brooklyn Bridge- City Hall station. That’s the name of the IRT station. It was also called Brooklyn Bridge-Worth St when the platforms were extended north to the old Worth St station. The  ,  ,old TT West End also terminated there middays before 1967 and the new service realignment. That BMT station was Chambers Street station with Municipal Building added signage on the mezzanine leading to the street. I cleaned it and traveled through it many times. The only BMT station that I know that is labeled as City Hall is located on the other side of the City Hall complex where the BMT Broadway local  and  now stop. My memories. Might be outdated now but…… Carry on.

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[Calvin]

7 hours ago, RandomRider0101 said:

 

It's funny 'cause I saw an R46 at Concourse yard earlier (sometime around 2:30PM), and I was wondering what it was doing there.

One of the numbers was 5578; can anyone on here confirm the numbers of this train currently on the ?

5578-5581 and 5682-5685.

From Bronx-Bedford Park Blvd to Brighton Beach, R46 code says: B: BRIGHTON BEACH, 6 AV EXP and BRIGHTON EXP.

While vice versa, B: BEDFORD PK BLVD, 6 Av EXP, CENT PK W LCL and CONCOURSE LCL

* That R46 was lended from Broadway bc of a shortage of R68/As they had. One of them had mechanical problems from what I can think of. 

Edited April 8, 2023 by Calvin

[darkstar8983]

2 hours ago, Calvin said:

5578-5581 and 5682-5685.

From Bronx-Bedford Park Blvd to Brighton Beach, R46 code says: B: BRIGHTON BEACH, 6 AV EXP and BRIGHTON EXP.

While vice versa, B: BEDFORD PK BLVD, 6 Av EXP, CENT PK W LCL and CONCOURSE LCL

* That R46 was lended from Broadway bc of a shortage of R68/As they had. One of them had mechanical problems from what I can think of. 

This goes to show that spare factor is still a big issue because likely, for the  to be able to run R68/R68A cars on weekday service, it must borrow from the  pool, since 12 R68/R68A trains must be available for  service (plus the two 2 R68/R68A trains that are set aside as part of the spare factor for the ).
Assuming the  used exclusively R68A cars to make service (to make the math simpler, since the  needs 25 trains (200 R68A cars) to make service, this leaves Broadway Line with R68s 2768-2916 (148 cars = 18.5 trains (and are on paper assigned to the  while the  is exclusively R46). From there depending on how many are available for service, that is why likely an R46 had to run on the , since CIY has to run as many R68s for Broadway as possible because of poor R46 performance.

[RandomRider0101]

6 hours ago, Calvin said:

5578-5581 and 5682-5685.

From Bronx-Bedford Park Blvd to Brighton Beach, R46 code says: B: BRIGHTON BEACH, 6 AV EXP and BRIGHTON EXP.

While vice versa, B: BEDFORD PK BLVD, 6 Av EXP, CENT PK W LCL and CONCOURSE LCL

* That R46 was lended from Broadway bc of a shortage of R68/As they had. One of them had mechanical problems from what I can think of. 

Yep, I saw a video last night and was able to confirm the numbers. I could've taken a photo yesterday and posted it here, but it didn't cross my mind in that moment. 

Thanks for double confirming. The help is always appreciated.

 

[NBTA]

Underlyingly, there was also an R160 on the  and a mixed 68/A set on the roaming around.

[Calvin]

7 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

This goes to show that spare factor is still a big issue because likely, for the  to be able to run R68/R68A cars on weekday service, it must borrow from the  pool, since 12 R68/R68A trains must be available for  service (plus the two 2 R68/R68A trains that are set aside as part of the spare factor for the ).
Assuming the  used exclusively R68A cars to make service (to make the math simpler, since the  needs 25 trains (200 R68A cars) to make service, this leaves Broadway Line with R68s 2768-2916 (148 cars = 18.5 trains (and are on paper assigned to the  while the  is exclusively R46). From there depending on how many are available for service, that is why likely an R46 had to run on the , since CIY has to run as many R68s for Broadway as possible because of poor R46 performance.

On top of that, the spare R68s and R68As that were at C.I Yard were also involved in vandalism. If the spare R68 or R68A is available at C.I Yard, they can use it. However, there was no choice but to use the R46 from the Broadway line. 

2915 is the end R68 out of C.I Yard that's 4-car with 2916 starts for the Franklin Av Shuttle, not a big problem. But yes, the paper shows for organizing the type of trains in routes out of total. 

Edited April 8, 2023 by Calvin

[Lawrence St]

I think the  should swap it's R68's with the R46's from the . The  needs modern equipment and the R46's cant handle 24/7 service on busy line like the .

[darkstar8983]

5 hours ago, NBTA said:

Underlyingly, there was also an R160 on the  and a mixed 68/A set on the roaming around.

Neither of those appearances surprise me, since because of what has been mentioned previously regarding car shortages. R68 and R68As are now being used in mixed consists, and come May, when the 63 St tunnel work starts, don’t be surprised if the frequency of R160s doing stints on the  increases, either due to R46 issues, and the fact that more R160s will be parked during rush hours because of planned service reductions to the  to accommodate the  all via 53 St.

[Calvin]

Speaking of mixed sets, Jamaica Yard stopped mixing R160 Alstom and Siemens cars together as 10-cars recently. There were problems with the bucking and consistency that happened. The Alstoms couple together, 8653-8842, 9103-9942 (minus 9108-9112) while the Siemens are seperate, 8843-9102. 

Edited April 8, 2023 by Calvin

[darkstar8983]

Just now, Calvin said:

Speaking of mixed sets, Jamaica Yard stopped mixing R160 Alstom and Siemens cars together as 10-cars recently. There were problems with the bucking and consistency that happened. 

I thought there was a bulletin put up to yard workers that explicitly stated to not mix the Siemens and Alstom R160s