RollOver Posted March 9, 2013 Share #2551 Posted March 9, 2013 I love those hauling sounds on the R46s whenever they're going at 45 and up miles per hour, you know through the 60th Street tube, Jamaica Bay crossing between Howard Beach and Broad Channel etc etc. Best I've ever heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 9, 2013 Share #2552 Posted March 9, 2013 I love those hauling sounds on the R46s whenever they're going at 45 and up miles per hour, you know through the 60th Street tube, Jamaica Bay crossing between Howard Beach and Broad Channel etc etc. Best I've ever heard. Oh wow, I thought I was the only one! I really like the reving up and rumble of those General Electric 1257 Traction Motors on those R46's doing that overtime hitting 50+ on good stretches of track. About time someone brings this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted March 9, 2013 Share #2553 Posted March 9, 2013 The does an excellent job of being the host of the R32s (same goes for the until it started using R42s and then becoming 100% R160s later afterwards). I also feel it is one of those routes (next to the and ) that the seems to neglect with just 8-car trains than full-length 10-car trains, you know as if its a BMT Eastern Division route. The conductors purposely close up REGARDLESS of when they see people running and being right next to the 8-car marketer to board the train right away. I'm alright with the playing the role of the R44/46s, however I think it would look great with the R32s and R160s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 9, 2013 Share #2554 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I'm alright with the playing the role of the R44/46s, however I think it would look great with the R32s and R160s. It would be. It's too bad that the R160's can't handle the different voltages of the IND Rockaway Line, (as the power there is supplied by LIPA not Con Edison according to what I know on this particular) which resulted in the switch of that fleet to Jamaica Yard, CI and I believe ENY. Edited March 9, 2013 by realizm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted March 9, 2013 Share #2555 Posted March 9, 2013 In case you guys didn't know, R160s were tested in the Rockaways and they passed compared when they were testing on various other lines and they failed. But I do think that if too many R160s are in the Rockaways at any given time then there could be an issue. Other than that one or two trains wouldn't do harm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2556 Posted March 10, 2013 I saw one yesterday morning on the . I had one today... In case you guys didn't know, R160s were tested in the Rockaways and they passed compared when they were testing on various other lines and they failed. But I do think that if too many R160s are in the Rockaways at any given time then there could be an issue. Other than that one or two trains wouldn't do harm. I thought that was an issue with LIPA's piece of shit electrical system. It would be. It's too bad that the R160's can't handle the different voltages of the IND Rockaway Line, (as the power there is supplied by LIPA not Con Edison according to what I know on this particular) which resulted in the switch of that fleet to Jamaica Yard, CI and I believe ENY. I don't think it's different voltage, it was something else that had to do with LIPA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2557 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) In case you guys didn't know, R160s were tested in the Rockaways and they passed compared when they were testing on various other lines and they failed. But I do think that if too many R160s are in the Rockaways at any given time then there could be an issue. Other than that one or two trains wouldn't do harm. That's an interesting point. I've heard that there was some sort of conflicts that are actually not technically based within the departments in charge of rolling stock and the different yards as to where the R160s should be stationed at but this is based on speculation. I have no official sources, no newspaper articles, no pdf presentations, or studies, nothing, other then what various discussions on this particular reveals within our network of transit enthusiast communities has taken place (Us people at NYCTF, SubChat, Second Ave Sagas and such) So what I am saying here is strictly speculation, maybe perhaps with a ring of truth for it after all, but we'll see as time passes and people within the MTA starts talking. But the official prognosis (according to MTA officials) is that the R160s cannot run on the Rockaways for the aformentioned reasons due to the supply of power on those third rails to Mott Ave. and Rockaway Park/Beach 116. Guess we'll never really never know. But we do have the R179's in the works to replace the aging R46's and the rest of the R32's, as planned in the future MTA Capital Budget already planned for. Edited March 10, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2558 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I don't think it's different voltage, it was something else that had to do with LIPA. Good thing you brought it up, will have to research how Con Edison vs LIPA serves power to industrial and Mass Transit entities, I can get back to you on that unless you already know what the deal is. If you do know in detail already please share. This is an important aspect as to how the entire R160 order all in all was rolled out throughout all the train yard complexes in this system. Far Rock Depot gave a clue as well in the original discussion I can vaguely remember. I will have to find his post. Edited March 10, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2559 Posted March 10, 2013 WHOA!!!!! Wow, I'm gonna need to open a new roll of paper towels to wipe up all the foam on my face! That is correct, Cortlandt St station is now open, and you heard it first at SubwayTime. I actually wasn't foaming, I rode the R62A before.. I just was surprised..Typical railfan (lol) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2560 Posted March 10, 2013 All good. We all know SnowBlock and his hardcore straight to the point attitude by now. He's always strictly technical in his input on the forums as a respected C/R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendell Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2561 Posted March 10, 2013 No one heard me so i will say this again , (BTW This is in subway time) GLITCH IN SYSTEM! CORTLAND ST is back in service on the Line? Service Change Cortlandt St Uptown 137 St - City College 8 min Downtown Rector St 7 min Rector St 10 min Rector St 21 min Rector St 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2562 Posted March 10, 2013 No one heard me so i will say this again , (BTW This is in subway time) GLITCH IN SYSTEM! CORTLAND ST is back in service on the Line? Service Change Cortlandt St Uptown 137 St - City College 8 min Downtown Rector St 7 min Rector St 10 min Rector St 21 min Rector St DUDE, calm down!!!! Cortlandt Street is not open, SubwayTime for some reason displays it like it does South Ferry, it's a new app that NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON! Why they put Cortlandt in the app IDK, but it's there and the MTA just needs to fix that. Again, it's a BRAND NEW app and like every new app there's problems with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2563 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) You know I never knew the IP Board software was capable of displaying fonts like that. The moar you know.... Edited March 10, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2564 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) So did anybody have the opportunity to catch the R160 that was running tonight? I missed working it by a single interval Cortlandt St shows up because technically ATS considers it an open station in the scheduling. This is why it was very common for N/B 's to get holding lights at Chambers St because the schedule expected it to make a Cortlandt St stop and suddenly the train is early. Edited March 10, 2013 by Snowblock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2565 Posted March 10, 2013 So did anybody have the opportunity to catch the R160 that was running tonight? I missed working it by a single interval Cortlandt St shows up because technically ATS considers it an open station in the scheduling. This is why it was very common for N/B 's to get holding lights at Chambers St because the schedule expected it to make a Cortlandt St stop and suddenly the train is early. WHAT?????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2566 Posted March 10, 2013 So did anybody have the opportunity to catch the R160 that was running tonight? I missed working it by a single interval Cortlandt St shows up because technically ATS considers it an open station in the scheduling. This is why it was very common for N/B 's to get holding lights at Chambers St because the schedule expected it to make a Cortlandt St stop and suddenly the train is early. Crap. I came home from work on the . Damn.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2567 Posted March 10, 2013 In case anyone didnt catch it, there's a video on Youtube of a Bowling Green bound train in service stopping at Rector. It was taken last week during some kind of emergency G.O. <sarcasm>Hmm I wonder how that train got to Bowling Green??</sarcasm> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2568 Posted March 10, 2013 Actually, that video was a late night GO (happened one night only)...Brooklyn bound 2 trains went via the Lex, Bowling Green bound 5 trains went to BG via 7 Ave of course skipping the SF loop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2569 Posted March 10, 2013 There was, it was called the . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendell Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2570 Posted March 10, 2013 Actually, that video was a late night GO (happened one night only)...Brooklyn bound 2 trains went via the Lex, Bowling Green bound 5 trains went to BG via 7 Ave of course skipping the SF loop. Everything starting to confuse me right now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2571 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) There was, it was called the . that was a poor excuse of an 'express'. The stations didn't have the even crowding at each station like the J/Z have. They were better off having an all local 1 service. Edited March 10, 2013 by Grand Concourse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2572 Posted March 10, 2013 No, the ran skip-stop with the not express service. How about extending the to Bay Ridge and the Coney Island via Sea Beach Express? Close enough..... and I don't think there are enough trains for those extensions.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2573 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) And there's no demand for them. Seriously a Z sea beach express? If they can't run an express on the west end line, how the hell are they going to justify a sea beach express that makes no stops b/w 59th-4th av and CI? Edited March 10, 2013 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2574 Posted March 10, 2013 Close enough..... and I don't think there are enough trains for those extensions.... They might eventually do a to 9 Av on the West End, though, right? At least I remember lurking on SubChat and some posters there bringing the idea up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted March 10, 2013 Share #2575 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) They might eventually do a to 9 Av on the West End, though, right? At least I remember lurking on SubChat and some posters there bringing the idea up. I always thought it was foaming imo. But survey says that if this ever happens in our lifetime, it's possibility that it could cut down crowding on the and maybe even the . Sounds like a cute idea, but in reality the would of done it a long time ago and it just seems pretty.... well.... unlikely. If there were extra trains ordered.... maybe..... The people on subchat are just really thirsty for something brown of the West End line, I'm guessing. You decide because it just an opinion.... Edited March 10, 2013 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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