Joel Up Front Posted December 11, 2011 Share #101 Posted December 11, 2011 That rear seating arrangement doesn't work in LI and it's infinitely worse in the city. Why is the insisting on ordering buses like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted December 11, 2011 Share #102 Posted December 11, 2011 After riding all the BT&E buses, here's my Review of the 3G Daimler Orion VII E10 "3G Rating: 4.7 out of 5 Pros - Incredibly smooth ride even with the fact it has a ZF Ecolife transmission - Has ample seating and standing space. (in fact most in the BT&E program) - More leg room, no tight spaces for the tall. - Bus is incredibly quiet, much quieter than the LFS which uses the same power train - Effective LED lighting - Smooth Braking, stops on a dime with minimal jerking - Fast acceleration - Thermoking HVAC, much more efficient than the Carrier HVAC - Parts readily available (850 NG counterparts...) - Excellent fuel consumption - Handles large crowds Cons- - Rear seating arrangement has my doubts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share #103 Posted December 12, 2011 That rear seating arrangement doesn't work in LI and it's infinitely worse in the city. Why is the insisting on ordering buses like this? They are testing out different configurations to see what's best for NYC service. @dmouse - What do you know about the fuel economy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted December 12, 2011 Share #104 Posted December 12, 2011 They are testing out different configurations to see what's best for NYC service. @dmouse - What do you know about the fuel economy?? I heard it had the best out of 3, and according from the Altoona test but I could be wrong. You know more about this stuff than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share #105 Posted December 13, 2011 I heard it had the best out of 3, and according from the Altoona test but I could be wrong. You know more about this stuff than I do. The bus itself does have the best Altoona record. However, the propulsion tested was ISB/BAE hybrid. Economy stats will be different for MTA's ISL/ZF buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 13, 2011 Share #106 Posted December 13, 2011 Has anybody noticed when riding these buses, that if you sit in the left hand seat in the rear, you can't see outside where the American flag is placed? I noticed that when I rode on one this evening, it was all blurry, WTF. But other than that, kool bus! :cool: I was shocked how smooth the bus runs despite having the ZF transmission, I really hope UP is the next depot after QV, I can see them swapping UP with CAS, as the differences between the NG and 3G is probably minor from a B/O POV. In other words, they would have to do little to no training on the B/O in SI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 22, 2011 Share #107 Posted December 22, 2011 For anyone that wants to know how it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 27, 2011 Share #108 Posted December 27, 2011 Queens Village currently with 15 buses = 7003-7004, 7006-7010, 7012-7017, 7020-7021 Ulmer Park currently with 6 buses = 7036, 7039, 7050-7051, 7053, (there is a 6th one but can't remember) [can't wait!!!] 7000-7002, 7005, 7019 and 7038 still at vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 27, 2011 Share #109 Posted December 27, 2011 Queens Village currently with 15 buses = 7003-7004, 7006-7010, 7012-7017, 7020-7021 Ulmer Park currently with 6 buses = 7036, 7039, 7050-7051, 7053, (there is a 6th one but can't remember) [can't wait!!!] 7000-7002, 7005, 7019 and 7038 still at vendor. Theres 8 at ulmer park...total of 8 you named 5 #6=7031 #7=7049 #8=i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 27, 2011 Share #110 Posted December 27, 2011 Theres 8 at ulmer park...total of 8you named 5 #6=7031 #7=7049 #8=i dont know thanks and i also forgot about 7019 has also been added to the QV family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 29, 2011 Share #111 Posted December 29, 2011 7031 has began service tonight on the B6!! It was going to Bensonhurst passing Williams Avenue an hour ago. :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted December 29, 2011 Share #112 Posted December 29, 2011 The same applies to 7051. In service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 29, 2011 Share #113 Posted December 29, 2011 The same applies to 7051. In service. 7050 also began service wednesday night on the B6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaacsorden Posted December 31, 2011 Share #114 Posted December 31, 2011 Ha ya I just saw the new Orion 7 3rd or Orion 3g at xastpeton today 2 at castlton depot and 2 on ptb Richmond Ave. I'm sorry I didn't get any picture but I will Monday . Until Monday. By the way I'm on 2135 on x10 to 3ave 57st manhattan.on the bridge between Brooklyn and Staten island. Ulmer OK depot is next • 7000-7029: Castleton • 7030-7059: Ulmer Park • 7060-7089: QueensVillage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share #115 Posted December 31, 2011 Ha ya I just saw the new Orion 7 3rd or Orion 3g at xastpeton today 2 at castlton depot and 2 on ptbRichmond Ave. I'm sorry I didn't get any picture but I will Monday . Until Monday. By the way I'm on 2135 on x10 to 3ave 57st manhattan.on the bridge between Brooklyn and Staten island. Ulmer OK depot is next • 7000-7029: Castleton • 7030-7059: Ulmer Park • 7060-7089: QueensVillage The new assignment is • 7000-7029: Queens Village • 7030-7059: Ulmer Park • 7060-7089: Castleton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted December 31, 2011 Share #116 Posted December 31, 2011 The new assignment is• 7000-7029: Queens Village • 7030-7059: Ulmer Park • 7060-7089: Castleton what castleton doing with there ng's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C40LFR Posted December 31, 2011 Share #117 Posted December 31, 2011 The bus itself does have the best Altoona record. However, the propulsion tested was ISB/BAE hybrid. Economy stats will be different for MTA's ISL/ZF buses. I am just happy Orion had finally made a modern looking bus with NG/3G's. In particular Foothill Transit's Orion V's and LACMTA's contracted Orion VI's have done quite well, but I've never been fond of them because they were just hideous to look at. I said hallelujah when they finally got rid of that hideous angled driver-side front windshield that has been a horrible signature of the Orion series. Whoever designed that windshield design should shoot themselves. The NG/3G's are sexy through. It would be nice if the windows matched the height of doors or vice versa though. They are even sexier in +SBS+ livery on the M34/A. Sad to here about the Xcelsior. Kind of not surprised though. It's design which makes it the sexiest bus on road is probably what caused it's troubles. Unlike C40LFR, the XD looks like it was completely redesigned thus is not built or based on a proven core design.(Where as the C40LFR is just a regular C40LF with new front and rear mold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 1, 2012 Share #118 Posted January 1, 2012 what castleton doing with there ng's 3995-4019 to Fresh Pond Some 42xx's to Yukon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share #119 Posted January 1, 2012 I am just happy Orion had finally made a modern looking bus with NG/3G's. In particular Foothill Transit's Orion V's and LACMTA's contracted Orion VI's have done quite well, but I've never been fond of them because they were just hideous to look at. I said hallelujah when they finally got rid of that hideous angled driver-side front windshield that has been a horrible signature of the Orion series. Whoever designed that windshield design should shoot themselves. The NG/3G's are sexy through. It would be nice if the windows matched the height of doors or vice versa though. They are even sexier in +SBS+ livery on the M34/A. Sad to here about the Xcelsior. Kind of not surprised though. It's design which makes it the sexiest bus on road is probably what caused it's troubles. Unlike C40LFR, the XD looks like it was completely redesigned thus is not built or based on a proven core design.(Where as the C40LFR is just a regular C40LF with new front and rear mold) The rear doors on the NG are window height. I like the design on the 3G better though. I think they look much better than if they went all the way up to the top of the windows. As far as the Xcelsior goes, its a beautiful bus with a great ride, but it has some issues that New Flyer should have addressed by now. They rushed the bus in my opinion, and its starting to show all over North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted January 1, 2012 Share #120 Posted January 1, 2012 3995-4019 to Fresh PondSome 42xx's to Yukon. so, fresh pond are gonna just retire some of there rts ?? 4431-4452?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share #121 Posted January 2, 2012 so, fresh pond are gonna just retire some of there rts ??4431-4452?? Yes, something like 700 RTS' are up for retirement. What exactly are you asking about the 4400's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted January 2, 2012 Share #122 Posted January 2, 2012 Yes, something like 700 RTS' are up for retirement. What exactly are you asking about the 4400's? ok and the 4400's from the annex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share #123 Posted January 2, 2012 ok and the 4400's from the annex Are you asking is they will be transfered to another depot? If so, not to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 2, 2012 Share #124 Posted January 2, 2012 so, fresh pond are gonna just retire some of there rts ??4431-4452?? Those buses are at Charleston right now.... Previously at Yukon. and yes FP (Fresh Pond) is getting rid of most their '96RTS No word on the '98RTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 2, 2012 Share #125 Posted January 2, 2012 Those buses are at Charleston right now....Previously at Yukon. and yes FP (Fresh Pond) is getting rid of most their '96RTS No word on the '98RTS. I think 4431-4452 came from Castleton. I belive 4431 is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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