Amtrak7 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #426 Posted May 22, 2012 More Details on the Planned Closures for 2013: - [broadway BMT] From LIC to Downtown Brooklyn. No Bus Replacement Needed. - [Washington Heights IND] from 168th to 207th Sts. Minimal Bus Coverage Required. - [Grand Concource IND] from 161st to 205th Sts. Minimal Bus Coverage Required. - [inner Queens IND] from Roosevelt Ave. to Court Square. Bus Coverage Required. - [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts. Bus Coverage Required [Local ONLY], Source: Greg Mocker /// Twitter. https://twitter.com/...5/photo/1/large What bus coverage is required for the closures? Just use the or other local bus routes that run in the area instead. Queens Blvd??? That will be a nightmare! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 22, 2012 Share #427 Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) What bus coverage is required for the closures? Just use the or other local bus routes that run in the area instead. Queens Blvd??? That will be a nightmare! For the , the Bx1 and Bx2 bus doesn't run overnight (from 1-4AM), so Shuttle Busses would be in place during FASTRACK. For the , the M4, Bx7 and M100 doesn't run overnight (from 1-4AM), so Shuttle Busses would be in place during FASTRACK. And QBL would be a nightmare, but I guess busses would be out in full effect. Edited May 22, 2012 by KeystoneRegional 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #428 Posted May 22, 2012 What bus coverage is required for the closures? Just use the or other local bus routes that run in the area instead. Queens Blvd??? That will be a nightmare! Likely for the 's coverage would be using the train for 161st to Bedford Park. With Shuttle Bus Service from 205th to Bedford Park. And the as an alternative? Lol nope! Thats wayyyy to far man. And the Bx1 / Bx2 do not run overnight as stated above. Next years is gonna be interesting! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #429 Posted May 22, 2012 QBL will be nightmare. There no detours to used in that area. It seem this is the only stretch that always managed to have train running in both direction but not in shutdown similarity. I don't think anyone ever heard of shutdown on this stretch except during the weather problems. Just delayed is all I heard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted May 22, 2012 Share #430 Posted May 22, 2012 - [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts...... lol actual stations or sections.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #431 Posted May 22, 2012 - [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts...... lol actual stations or sections.... Yeah I found that funny too. Sections im sure (42nd to 125th Street). No alternatives except the buses (From 59th to 125). Of course, all this is subject to change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 22, 2012 Share #432 Posted May 22, 2012 QBL will be nightmare. There no detours to used in that area. It seem this is the only stretch that always managed to have train running in both direction but not in shutdown similarity. I don't think anyone ever heard of shutdown on this stretch except during the weather problems. Just delayed is all I heard. There will be full shuttle bussing for FASTRACK on the QBL, it's pretty much certain, 100%. Nightmare indeed, but what can you do, ya know... - [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts...... lol actual stations or sections.... Yeah I found that funny too. Sections im sure (42nd to 125th Street). No alternatives except the buses (From 59th to 125). Of course, all this is subject to change. Not funny at all, it's all based on logic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #433 Posted May 22, 2012 The Lex FASTRACK will be done in two phases apparently: phase 1 simply involves ending express service early, phase 2 involves running everything express with buses making local stops. At least that's what I can tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted May 22, 2012 Share #434 Posted May 22, 2012 - [Lexington Ave. IRT] from 45th to 100th Sts...... lol actual stations or sections.... Probably the work sections. Remember that between 45th Street and 100th Street, the Lexington Avenue line is bi-leveled. 103 and 110 Sts are the usual four-track across setup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACEVE14 Posted May 22, 2012 Share #435 Posted May 22, 2012 By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while. 1. corridor - I'm glad that the MTA have decided to do this line between Queensboro Plaza or Queens Plaza, Queens and Atlantic Av-Barclays Center, Brooklyn, and I hope they read my comment on this corridor I made a short time ago. There might be some tunnel lighting improvements, track cleaning, signal restructuring, and track switch installation north of 14th St-Union Square. 2. corridor - On this uptown Manhattan corridor, I'm positive that the Train service might end early (last train to Euclid Av leaves 168th St at 9:32 PM and last train to 168th St leaves Euclid Av at 8:54 PM). Also, the last two downtown trains might leave Inwood-207th St at 9:44 PM (Far Rockaway-bound), and 9:56 PM (Ozone Park-bound), which means the final three uptown trains would make their arrival on Inwood-207th St at 9:35 PM (from Ozone Park), 9:46 PM (from Far Rockaway), and 9:56 PM (from Ozone Park). Trains will also start running local between 168th St, Manhattan and Euclid Av, Brooklyn in both directions at 9:00 PM (from Euclid Av) and 9:41 PM (from 168th St). 3. corridor - FASTRACK in The Bronx, what are the odds on that? For this one, the line will end early (last train to Brighton Beach leaves 145th St at 9:56 PM and last train to 145th St leaves Brighton Beach at 8:49 PM). Trains are likely to end at 145th St instead of 161st St-Yankee Stadium, maybe because of platform renovations, track cleaning, reinstalling track switches south of Fordham Road, and hopefully part of the never-been-planned Line extension along Burke Av. 4. corridor - Either the and run local, or the and run express. Only time will tell. 5. corridor - They're both the same, but the planning might be different than this year. Trains will run in 2 sections: 1. Between Woodlawn and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and New Lots Av (trains start running local). Train service will end early (last train to Bowling Green leaves Eastchester-Dyre Av at 9:08 PM and last train to Eastchester-Dyre Av leaves Bowling Green at 9:35 PM). Trains will also run in 2 sections: 1. Between Pelham Bay Park and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and Crown Heights-Utica Av. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted May 23, 2012 Share #436 Posted May 23, 2012 By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while. 1. corridor - I'm glad that the MTA have decided to do this line between Queensboro Plaza or Queens Plaza, Queens and Atlantic Av-Barclays Center, Brooklyn, and I hope they read my comment on this corridor I made a short time ago. There might be some tunnel lighting improvements, track cleaning, signal restructuring, and track switch installation north of 14th St-Union Square. 2. corridor - On this uptown Manhattan corridor, I'm positive that the Train service might end early (last train to Euclid Av leaves 168th St at 9:32 PM and last train to 168th St leaves Euclid Av at 8:54 PM). Also, the last two downtown trains might leave Inwood-207th St at 9:44 PM (Far Rockaway-bound), and 9:56 PM (Ozone Park-bound), which means the final three uptown trains would make their arrival on Inwood-207th St at 9:35 PM (from Ozone Park), 9:46 PM (from Far Rockaway), and 9:56 PM (from Ozone Park). Trains will also start running local between 168th St, Manhattan and Euclid Av, Brooklyn in both directions at 9:00 PM (from Euclid Av) and 9:41 PM (from 168th St). 3. corridor - FASTRACK in The Bronx, what are the odds on that? For this one, the line will end early (last train to Brighton Beach leaves 145th St at 9:56 PM and last train to 145th St leaves Brighton Beach at 8:49 PM). Trains are likely to end at 145th St instead of 161st St-Yankee Stadium, maybe because of platform renovations, track cleaning, reinstalling track switches south of Fordham Road, and hopefully part of the never-been-planned Line extension along Burke Av. 4. corridor - Either the and run local, or the and run express. Only time will tell. 5. corridor - They're both the same, but the planning might be different than this year. Trains will run in 2 sections: 1. Between Woodlawn and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and New Lots Av (trains start running local). Train service will end early (last train to Bowling Green leaves Eastchester-Dyre Av at 9:08 PM and last train to Eastchester-Dyre Av leaves Bowling Green at 9:35 PM). Trains will also run in 2 sections: 1. Between Pelham Bay Park and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and Crown Heights-Utica Av. 1, 168st can handle the both services. 2, You are seriously suggesting to turn the D at 145st. Concourse riders will be mad and have a lot of minutes added to the commute. Making the D run to 161st provides the connection to the 4 for uptown service. B sevice runs normal since it dosen't go past 145st. 3, For the Queen blvd line the Fshould run local and the E should run express to Rossevelt Av. F should go to 21st and the E should go to Court Square. M and R shutlle service takes place too. 4, The Lexingtion Av between 45st and 100st is bi leveled with local on upper and express on lower. If they want to shut down the upper level trains will run on the lower level. Workers can work non stop in the upper level because no train interruptions. This also the same way when the lower level is out trains run on the upper level. One level can handle all lexingtion av service. . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted May 23, 2012 Share #437 Posted May 23, 2012 By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while. 1. corridor - I'm glad that the MTA have decided to do this line between Queensboro Plaza or Queens Plaza, Queens and Atlantic Av-Barclays Center, Brooklyn, and I hope they read my comment on this corridor I made a short time ago. There might be some tunnel lighting improvements, track cleaning, signal restructuring, and track switch installation north of 14th St-Union Square. They're going to install a new switch there for real? Why? And are they really doing that much of the whole line? (All the way to Atlantic?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 23, 2012 Share #438 Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while. 3. corridor - FASTRACK in The Bronx, what are the odds on that? For this one, the line will end early (last train to Brighton Beach leaves 145th St at 9:56 PM and last train to 145th St leaves Brighton Beach at 8:49 PM). Trains are likely to end at 145th St instead of 161st St-Yankee Stadium, maybe because of platform renovations, track cleaning, reinstalling track switches south of Fordham Road, and hopefully part of the never-been-planned Line extension along Burke Av. I really doubt the will get cut to 145th. You can easily relay trains out of 161st, just have it skip 155th. The can still go to 161st and connect with the for those needing to go up. Connect with a Shuttle Bus at Bedford for 205th Street service. 145th does make sense, but a bad choice. This will crowd up the Bx19, if no shuttle bus is provided. 4. ® corridor - Either the and run local, or the and ® run express. Only time will tell. They mentioned shuttle buses will replace it. Likely the would be an alternative to get 74th Street and connect with a Jamaica Center and 179th shuttle trains. 5. corridor - They're both the same, but the planning might be different than this year. Trains will run in 2 sections: 1. Between Woodlawn and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and New Lots Av (trains start running local). Train service will end early (last train to Bowling Green leaves Eastchester-Dyre Av at 9:08 PM and last train to Eastchester-Dyre Av leaves Bowling Green at 9:35 PM). Trains will also run in 2 sections: 1. Between Pelham Bay Park and 125th St. 2. Between Grand Central-42nd St and Crown Heights-Utica Av. This makes sense, use the Lexington / 3rd Avenue Buses, and your good. Edited May 23, 2012 by mark1447 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted May 23, 2012 Share #439 Posted May 23, 2012 Why would they even need to have an Upper Lex Express FASTRACK? There's no Lex express service at night anyway, they could do the work there. The tracks are on a separate level, so no flagging required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 23, 2012 Share #440 Posted May 23, 2012 By looking at this TwitterPic on the 2013 FASTRACK corridor, I've decided to give out my opinions on 5 FASTRACK projects and hopefully we might have an understanding about this for quite a while. 1. corridor - *Read Above. 2. corridor - *Read Above. 3. [D] corridor - *Read Above. 4. [F] [M] corridor - Either the and [F] Line run local, or the [M] Line and run express. Only time will tell. 5. corridor - *Read Above *Removed Because of Emoticon Limits. - Definitely agreed. (A)/[D] - Pretty much will happen like that or the [D] Line ends at 161st for the sake of riders and cutting shuttle bus distance. [F] [M] - Complete sectional shut down, don't think running another service on the line would suggest it is really FASTRACK, since it already happens on some weekends. What I think will happen is there will be a Express Shuttle Bus and a Local Shuttle Bus overnight, and the line will completely shut down, with [F] Line Service ending at 21st St. - Queensbridge, Service ending at 57th St. - 7th Ave. until it does the 4th Ave. Shuttle, [M] Line Service will end early, Service will stop at Queens Plaza. - Definitely agreed. Why would they even need to have an Upper Lex Express FASTRACK? There's no Lex express service at night anyway, they could do the work there. The tracks are on a separate level, so no flagging required. Well, perhaps painting the station and doing complete washing and work that might be hazardous to passenger's health, from the looks of photos from Flickr some work require complete station and line closures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted May 23, 2012 Share #441 Posted May 23, 2012 As far as the Lexington Avenue FASTRACK goes, I see it going in two phases: 1: Lower level tracks closed. run local on the upper level, ends early. 2: Upper level tracks closed. run express on the lower level, and the also ends early. Also, shuttle bus service and/or additional M101/102/103 service would be provided for local stations since they would be bypassed in both directions. They're better off doing it like this because it would end up being "all hands on deck" with the shuttle buses if the entire Upper Lex line closed down for the night, and would probably eat up the savings from shutting the whole line down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 23, 2012 Share #442 Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) As far as the Lexington Avenue FASTRACK goes, I see it going in two phases: 1: Lower level tracks closed. run local on the upper level, ends early. 2: Upper level tracks closed. run express on the lower level, and the also ends early. Also, shuttle bus service and/or additional M101/102/103 service would be provided for local stations since they would be bypassed in both directions. They're better off doing it like this because it would end up being "all hands on deck" with the shuttle buses if the entire Upper Lex line closed down for the night, and would probably eat up the savings from shutting the whole line down. Im really sure the line will shut down from 125th to GCT. The MTA has mentioned many times that FASTRACK G/Os will close a portion of the line. The 6th Avenue Fastrack is SOMEWHAT like the Lexington Avenue line, with the Express tracks not connected to the Local track, from 34th to West 4th, and even that the line got shut down. Even if they can work on the upper level, while trains are on the express track, it ill still interfere with work. 110th / 103rd the express tracks are lined up with the Local. For your 1st phase, it doesn't make much sense, since after like 1AM (when no more (4)s are running express), the express tracks are cleared up. Pretty much work can be done, even after the is done with EXP. But like I said above, I'm sure the line will shut down, requiring people to use MABSTOA bus routes. Edited May 23, 2012 by mark1447 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 23, 2012 Share #443 Posted May 23, 2012 Link to that FASTRACK poster yall seen from KEYR. http://mta.info/mta/news/books/docs/FasTrack120521.pdf PDF from the MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted May 23, 2012 Share #444 Posted May 23, 2012 well, as we see FASTRACK is a great idea and the is going a good job of analyzing it for future use on other lines, where it can be even more helpful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted May 25, 2012 Share #445 Posted May 25, 2012 They mentioned washing the Rutgers tube during the fourth quarter of this year. But none of the 4 FASTRACKs require the closure of the tube. Unless they extend the reroute... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 28, 2012 Share #446 Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) As for the FASTRACK, hope the new ones work well, and they send out some Artics for the Queens Blvd. and Lex Ave. closures... Link to that FASTRACK poster yall seen from KEYR. http://mta.info/mta/...Track120521.pdf PDF from the MTA. It's rather a photo of a page of the document by Greg Mocker of Pix11 News via my post, call me KS, lol! Edited May 28, 2012 by KeystoneRegional 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted June 9, 2012 Share #447 Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) 391 hour GO: No trains between Bay Pkwy and Stillwell Av Free shuttle buses provide alternate service All times, 10 PM Fri, Jul 6 to 5 AM Mon, Jul 23 service operates between 205 St, Bronx and Bay Pkwy, Brooklyn. shuttle buses run in both directions between Bay Pkwy and Stillwell Av, making stops at 25 Av and Bay 50 St. Note: No trains between 62 St and Stillwell Av on Saturdays and Sundays, 9 AM to 8 PM. Edited June 9, 2012 by Amtrak7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 9, 2012 Share #448 Posted June 9, 2012 This is cool. I'm ready to see more of these FASTRACK-like G.O.s, instead of the ones that drag on for a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted June 27, 2012 Share #449 Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) I wonder why this all time G.O is longer than Fastrack ? Edited June 27, 2012 by j express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concourse Express Posted June 27, 2012 Share #450 Posted June 27, 2012 I think it's because of the need to complete station rehabs south of Bay Pkwy. Could be wrong though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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