NY1635 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #426 Posted June 17, 2012 The Q24 won't be enough. Liberty Avenue is lacking in bus service, and the Q68 is a fix. I am aware of the intersection, and I am thinking of a solution... There's no need for another bus route from Jamaica to Broadway Junction. The Q24, Q56, J and Z lines already goes there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2012 Share #427 Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) The Q24 won't be enough. Liberty Avenue is lacking in bus service, and the Q68 is a fix. I am aware of the intersection, and I am thinking of a solution The stops on the are not far from each other, that you can see them not even from the RFW . Liberty has enough service with the . Also, the Q112 is enough on Liberty on the opposite side. Brooklyn is fine without liberty Avenue Service. The nearest bus is like 1-2 blocks away, so I kinda saw the B12 go bye bye on that portion. Maybe the Q112 can be more frequent by 2-3 minutes rush hours and 7 minutes off peak times so that It fits. Also, Isnt the Q111/Q113 and Q110/Q112 interlined with each other, so that may be possible Edited June 17, 2012 by Q23 Central Term 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2012 Share #428 Posted June 17, 2012 Does anyone think the Q113 Limited should be relabeled. IMO it should. To Q114. The Q113 is Bascially different routing south of Guy R Brewer/ 147 Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #429 Posted June 17, 2012 Does anyone think the Q113 Limited should be relabeled. IMO it should. To Q114. The Q113 is Bascially different routing south of Guy R Brewer/ 147 Avenue No. The Q113 Limited uses Rockaway Blvd to provide faster bus service to and from Far Rockaway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #430 Posted June 17, 2012 Does anyone think the Q113 Limited should be relabeled. IMO it should. To Q114. The Q113 is Bascially different routing south of Guy R Brewer/ 147 Avenue I see where you're coming from.... But No I don't, I think its fine how it is, and although the local and LTD take a different routing south of Rockaway/Guy R Brewer Blvds, they terminate in the same place... Naming the Q113 LTD the Q114 would probably confuse riders.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #431 Posted June 17, 2012 The Q24 won't be enough. Liberty Avenue is lacking in bus service, and the Q68 is a fix. Liberty doesn't need any more bus service.. The Q112 is fine enough and there is the in Queens.. In Brooklyn, it doesn't need service as there is no demand for it. Remember how before the 2010 cuts the B12 served Liberty between Penn Av and Grant Av station? It got cut back to Broadway Junction because there wasn't ridership coming from Liberty... Creating the Q68 would just make a long route that would carry air the whole way.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 17, 2012 Share #432 Posted June 17, 2012 I took the Q113 limited before, and there was this rookie I think, in January, when I took the 113 for the first time, that the passengers were signaling him to make stops at local stops, so Bascially it was liking riding a Q113 Local. So I thought if the 113 LTD was to be renamed then that would give the riders the signal the 113 is local and the 114 is limited. Just an opinion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #433 Posted June 17, 2012 I took the Q113 limited before, and there was this rookie I think, in January, when I took the 113 for the first time, that the passengers were signaling him to make stops at local stops, so Bascially it was liking riding a Q113 Local. So I thought if the 113 LTD was to be renamed then that would give the riders the signal the 113 is local and the 114 is limited. Just an opinion I see where you're coming from.. That's kind of weird for the passengers to do that don't you think? I mean they should know its a LTD bus They probably weren't reading signs or looking at the bus to make sure.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #434 Posted June 17, 2012 I see where you're coming from.. That's kind of weird for the passengers to do that don't you think? I mean they should know its a LTD bus They probably weren't reading signs or looking at the bus to make sure.. Nah. You see that a lot at local stops where people just stick out their hand and hope the bus stops for them. Even out on SI, where the limiteds are labeled differently, you see it. It's not a matter of confusion. It's just a matter of wanting to get on the bus sooner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 17, 2012 Share #435 Posted June 17, 2012 if you are gonna make a q27A you would be better off with Q26 to cambria heights via frances lewis cause if you want flushing faster then that is the solution. Q26 becomes a faster version of Q27. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #436 Posted June 17, 2012 Here we go again with this every route LTD thing. The Q112 is a very light used route most of the people travel either to the A train stations lefferts blvd or Far Rockaway bound trains or within liberty Ave. It's horrible going down Liberty because it's crowded narrow people are always double parking and the buses often have to go stop in the middle of the rode because of a fool parking at the bus stop. Now I can see the Q60 getting LTD because it's service is steadily increasing. I have a video I will post soon when I get a chance and it will show you the Q112's ridership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted June 17, 2012 Share #437 Posted June 17, 2012 Agree with anyone saying there's no need for another Jamaica-B'way junction route.... and also no need for service along Liberty where there currently is none.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #438 Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Here we go again with this every route LTD thing. The Q112 is a very light used route most of the people travel either to the A train stations lefferts blvd or Far Rockaway bound trains or within liberty Ave. It's horrible going down Liberty because it's crowded narrow people are always double parking and the buses often have to go stop in the middle of the rode because of a fool parking at the bus stop. Now I can see the Q60 getting LTD because it's service is steadily increasing. I have a video I will post soon when I get a chance and it will show you the Q112's ridership. I've seen long lines for the Q112 and packed Q112s a few times around Jamaica Center... And the LTD may be able to help the Q60 but the traffic along Queens Blvd is a huge problem... And I've also noticed that most of the time somebody makes a new route plan, its either a LTD or SBS... LTD and SBS aren't practical or ideal in every situation (which is why most routes DON'T have either)... I guess its a "new thing, I wanna try it" type of situation.... Edited June 17, 2012 by MTAFanBoy512 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 17, 2012 Share #439 Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) I've seen long lines for the Q112 and packed Q112s a few times around Jamaica Center... And the LTD may be able to help the Q60 but the traffic along Queens Blvd is a huge problem... About those long lines, the majority of folks disembark before the Van Wyck with the rest getting off at 127th Street & Lefferts Blvd. It's almost empty from there to Rockaway. But when Liberty Avenue is riddled with traffic, more people get off and just walk(I do that very often these days) Edited June 17, 2012 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #440 Posted June 17, 2012 About those long lines, the majority of folks disembark before the Van Wyck with the rest getting off at 127th Street & Lefferts Blvd. It's almost empty from there to Rockaway. But when Liberty Avenue is riddled with traffic, more people get off and just walk(I do that very often these days) I didn't know that and I didn't know how much traffic Liberty gets... It sounds like 14th Street (a lot of traffic) in a way... I used to walk from Union Square to 1st Avenue to board the M14D as there is a lot of traffic between 1st Avenue and Union Square and walking often was quicker than the bus in that stretch... (There is always a large crowd boarding at Union Square as well, making the bus take even longer...) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted June 17, 2012 Share #441 Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Liberty along the Q112 (especially around the Lefferts Blvd station) is a PITA; and it's not just cars double parking either - it be full fledged minivans & delivery trucks impeding traffic, no matter what time of the day it is....... IMO, there should only be ONE bus route serving that portion of Liberty..... ...and whenever I see some SBS or LTD plan, immediately I assume it's some long a** route b/w two points where a route really need not be traveling to/from in the first place..... because it usually is..... "Oh, lemme just dub it LTD so people won't say it's a long route".... It's all smoke & mirrors when you see the crap for what it is really..... Edited June 17, 2012 by B35 via Church 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted June 17, 2012 Share #442 Posted June 17, 2012 ...and whenever I see some SBS or LTD plan, immediately I assume it's some long a** route b/w two points where a route really need not be traveling to/from in the first place..... because it usually is..... "Oh, lemme just dub it LTD so people won't say it's a long route".... It's all smoke & mirrors when you see the crap for what it is really..... And when there is a plan like that, the made-up route runs along other routes or it runs on streets that don't have bus service with the intent of coverage and/or giving that particular street service when it doesn't even need it in the first place... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #443 Posted June 17, 2012 About those long lines, the majority of folks disembark before the Van Wyck with the rest getting off at 127th Street & Lefferts Blvd. It's almost empty from there to Rockaway. But when Liberty Avenue is riddled with traffic, more people get off and just walk(I do that very often these days) Thanks and sometimes the bus does only have standing room but people get off so people never stand on that line. There has only been two times I seen the Q112 very crowded. Yesterday was the first time I saw the Q112 bunch up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 26, 2012 Share #444 Posted June 26, 2012 BTW This is the song that represents the Q26 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 26, 2012 Share #445 Posted June 26, 2012 [media=] [/media]BTW This is the song that represents the Q26 NO, no... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 26, 2012 Share #446 Posted June 26, 2012 NO, no... The Q26 still stands even though its useless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted June 26, 2012 Share #447 Posted June 26, 2012 Cough Cough feel free to place that DJ Khlaed in the music thread. Can we get back to any serious Queens bus proposals please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 26, 2012 Share #448 Posted June 26, 2012 I would still cut the Q38 In 3 pieces The section from Elmhurst to Corona would be run by either the Q11/21 or the Q52. The section from Elmhurst to Middle Village would be replaced by the Q88, and the section from Middle Village to Forest Hills with the Q67. I was talking to a female representative, and she said go online and do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted June 26, 2012 Share #449 Posted June 26, 2012 I would still cut the Q38 In 3 pieces The section from Elmhurst to Corona would be run by either the Q11/21 or the Q52. The section from Elmhurst to Middle Village would be replaced by the Q88, and the section from Middle Village to Forest Hills with the Q67. I was talking to a female representative, and she said go online and do it. ...and you would have thousands of current Q11/21 riders pissed (or as Cait Sith would say, hurling pitchforks) at you.... You can continue to remain stubborn about extending 11's/21's or 52's north of hoffman if you like.... All I have to say about that is, you are not being realistic with that part of it all...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 26, 2012 Share #450 Posted June 26, 2012 ...and you would have thousands of current Q11/21 riders pissed (or as Cait Sith would say, hurling pitchforks) at you.... You can continue to remain stubborn about extending 11's/21's or 52's north of hoffman if you like.... All I have to say about that is, you are not being realistic with that part of it all...... Well I guess if it cant become part of a route then I guess that part of the route will retain the Q38 Routing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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