Queens Division Bus Proposals/Ideas

[Eric B]

How about, if they ever did go through with the idea to close Rikers, build a bridge from the Bronx, and that would be a shortcut straight to LGA.

[B35 via Church]

I'd be more interested in literally (since there's already ideas/renderings floating around the internet) seeing Rikers Isl. turned into an extension of the airport itself; I want to see how that would end up being pulled off..... They're already making mass improvements to LGA as we speak....

What I think will end up happening whenever Rikers does close down though, is that it'd end up being a more commercialized version of Roosevelt Island, with some hotels mixed in here & there..... It would be nothing to continue having Q100's serve the would-be newly formed area, as well as used as a sticking point by Astorians into bringing back express bus service, and of course, marketing its proximity to Manhattan the same way that Astoria currently is.... I can almost see it now....

[rick1032]

On 10/17/2017 at 1:54 AM, rick1032 said:

I have updated my post about the bus routes that i have previously mentioned. This is the updated version of each bus route that i have created and I will put the link of each bus on this post and also i have a video response for all members who responded to the post and berated the way that I write on here and i gave you a plethora of disclaimers, but you ignore my my disclaimers.

1. (Q52 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bq_STGKLj3BeLEcxzjmctqzbnyg 

Explanation: help ease the B54 and the Q55 buses,

2. (Q61 SBS Floral Park 257 Street or Broadway Jct Van sinderen Ave via Jamaica ave), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0

Explanation: help ease the Q36,56,110 Buses.

3. (Q62 LCL/LTD St. Albans Linden blvd (or Farmers Blvd/Brinkerhoff Ave) or East NY Pitkin Ave (or Cypress Hills Sheridan Ave) via Liberty ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c

Explanation: Easy Access to St Albans, Jamaica, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, Cypress hills and the East New York areas. Semi restoration of the cypress Hill branch.

4. (Q68 South Jamaica 133 ave or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via Van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g

Explanation: Easier service from kew gardens briarwood and jamaica. easing the dependency on the q40 from 135av-143 st since the q40 dont loop around 140 street anymore

5. (Q68 sbs JFK airport or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g

Explanation: Same as 4, but as well easier stops including to kew gardens via jamaica av/queens blvd.

6. (Q71 local/ LTD Jamaica 165 st term or Jfk Airport N. boundary rd via 157/ long streets) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI

Explanation: ease tension on the guy brewer Lines from baisley blvd/ long street to Jamaica/ 160 street as well of direct service to august martin high school as well as helping the q6 since there would be no q6ltd since q82 sbs will take the Q6 LTD place on sutphin blvd

7. (Q73 SBS Little Neck L. Neck Pky or Queens center mall via H.Harding exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344

explanation: ease tension on the q88, q30.

8. (Q78 LTD Whitestone Parsons Blvd or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis, q78 Local College pt 20 ave [via 14 av]/college pt 14 av [via 20 av] or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g

explanation: ease the q76,q77. also exposing a route for the rosedale, cambria heights and college pt without multiple buses

9. (Q80 Bay Terrace 23 ave or Rosedale 147 av-225 street via springfield/bell blvds [via queensboro every other trip])Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs

explanation: ease the tension or the q77,27 also make a second option bus to bay terrace. easier to queensboro to bay terrace without transferring to flushing or depending on the q31.

10. (Q81 local Ozone Park libery ave or Far Rockaway Seagirt blvd via Rockaway blvd, central ave, Q81sbs Woodhaven 75 St Sta or Far Rockaway Seagirt Blvd via Rockaway blvd,Burnside ave, nassau exy, central ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ

explanation: woodhaven to far rockaway or ozone park to far rockaway service

11. (Q82 SBS Jamaica 165 St Term or Jfk Airport via sutphin/150 St) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM 

explanation: replace the q6 LTD and quicker service to JFK (airtrain and Q3 alternate)

12. (Q87 St. Albans Farmers-Linden or JFK airport via Baisley blvd/150 Street weekday rush only) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc

explanation: local rush service for the Q82 SBS and help St. albans and Rochdale Village

13. (Q89 Jamaica 165 St Term or Ozone Park Liberty Ave via linden blvd [via aquaduct every other trips on weekend]), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0

Explanation: easier subway transfer point as well as an alternative for the q112,41,109 to Jamaica

14. (Q90sbs ozone park Liberty ave or Cambria Heights 235 street via Linden bl [no aquaduct]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM

explanation: elimation of the Q4LTD service, limited service for the Q4,89. Needed a cambria heights-ozone park branch.

15. (Q91 Fort Totten or Jamaica 165 St Term via homelawn st/utopia pky) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ

Explanation: people wanted a fort totten/jamaica branch.

16. (Q93SBS Little Neck Glenwood street or LI City Queens Plz via Northern BL/ flushing [union st,roosevelt av, main st]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14

Explanation: limted route for the q101,66,13,12

17. (Q94 LCL/SBS Jamaica LIRR Sta or Cobble Hill Columbia St (sbs to barclays ctr game day only) via atlantic av/94 av) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo

Explanation: limited route for the q24, and an easier service to barclays ctr

18.(Q95 LCL/LTD Greenpoint West St or Flushing Main Station via Roosevelt/greenpoint aves, Q95A-LTD greenpoint west st and citi field via roosevelt/greenpoint aves,Q95B-LTD Flushing Main St Sta via Roosevelt ave [q95A/B LTD pick up to game drop off from game]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM

Explanation: limited/local route for the b24,Q32,48, Alternate service for  or  trains in case of fast track from 52nd street to Flushing Main Street

18. (Q107 Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK airport Lefferts airtrain station via T.A. Way (south road)/107 Ave/lefferts Blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk

explanation: Easier route for the Q10 LTD to Lefferts blvd Airtrain station at night after 9pm

19. (Q108LCL/LTD  Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK Airport via 154/155 st, 125 av, sutphin blvd, rockaway blvd) Link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao

Explanation: JFK alternate, helps ease the Q6,q82sbs

20.(Q109 Local Ozone Pk Liberty Ave [weekdays only]/ Rockaway Pk B.116 Street {weekend only} or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd [via lindenwood late nights only],Q109 LTD Rockaway Pk B.116 Street/Far Rockaway Mott Av Station or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw

Explanation: Limited service for the Q41,11,21. Rockaway Alternate for the  train in case of fast track.

 

This is all my routes that i have updated from the last post and here is the video of how I feel about all the members and moderators which i have respect for Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw

 

If you got any questions or anything direct message me, or you can respond to the forum. 

I have made a mistake for the Q52sbs  (which the Q52 bus exists on woodhaven blvd) Myrtle Ave route the new route is the Q92sbs

1. (Q92 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D6C3CgMgdjyVnmeIjkDV4ecRvpw

Explanation: limited service for the B54 and the Q55 buses,

 

[Connie]

As a Bayside Resident, i've toyed with the idea of turning the Q13/Q16 into a loop, with it being changed so that 13 applies to CW and 16 applies to CCW.

[checkmatechamp13]

37 minutes ago, Connie said:

As a Bayside Resident, i've toyed with the idea of turning the Q13/Q16 into a loop, with it being changed so that 13 applies to CW and 16 applies to CCW.

That would mean that as it is, there's a lot of residents transferring between the Q13/16 trying to get between areas around Utopia Parkway/Francis Lewis Blvd/29th Avenue, and Bell Blvd. Is that the case? I know there's a lot of shopping and everything, but I think it would cause more problems than it would solve. There's a user (I believe it's R188 7857) who mentions a lot of issues with heavy delays during rush hour with the Q13/16/28, and those would only be worse if the route ran as a loop route.

[bobtehpanda]

15 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I'd be more interested in literally (since there's already ideas/renderings floating around the internet) seeing Rikers Isl. turned into an extension of the airport itself; I want to see how that would end up being pulled off..... They're already making mass improvements to LGA as we speak....

What I think will end up happening whenever Rikers does close down though, is that it'd end up being a more commercialized version of Roosevelt Island, with some hotels mixed in here & there..... It would be nothing to continue having Q100's serve the would-be newly formed area, as well as used as a sticking point by Astorians into bringing back express bus service, and of course, marketing its proximity to Manhattan the same way that Astoria currently is.... I can almost see it now....

This is neither here nor there, but I think Rikers will probably become another park. It's too much of a pain to develop with decent infrastructure, and unlike Roosevelt Island it's not close to Manhattan.

They should really close LGA because the main problem right now is that the airspace is so constrained; LGA being where it is limits flight paths into JFK and EWR. Hell would freeze over before anyone did it, though.

[IAlam]

On 10/20/2017 at 7:03 PM, R188 7857 said:

They should really consider a rush hour bus lane on Northern Blvd in NE Queens. Buses in the morning are always late due to traffic from 149 all the way to the service road. In the afternoon and evening, traffic is heavy in the opposite direction from 150 to the LIRR stop. I'm pretty sure this traffic is what messes up the buses and throws off service. The intersection at 39 and Union should also be reworked, because traffic plagues that place almost past 12PM and it also delays the hell out of the buses. 

The problem with Northern Blvd is the LIRR at Broadway Station the road narrows and causes a bottleneck. 

[darrianQ60]

@rick1032 those routes wouldnt work they are way to far in distance and long  

[Gotham Bus Co.]

8 hours ago, Vtrain said:

Has anyone heard if there are plans to extend the Q27 bus to Merrick Blvd to connect with both the Q5 & N4 routes in 2018?

 

The Q27 was extended to 135th Avenue for a few months in 1957, but then was pulled back, presumably for lack of riding. 

More recently, there was a a whole shopping list of expansion concepts including the Q27 to Merrick Blvd. None of them happened at all.

[rick1032]

10 hours ago, darrianQ60 said:

@rick1032 those routes wouldnt work they are way to far in distance and long  

I have an assignment for you and it's a very simple one. Look at the link of each of the proposed routes and explain how each route is long and far in distance, and I would attempt to counter your statement or agree with it. Also, look at the population in the neighboring areas that each proposed route travel now versus 5 years ago. Finally, go to YouTube and look up PinePowerLI as well as Andrew Lee; watch their videos about NICE Bus and how people living in Nassau is either moving back to the boroughs for more convenient bus services or move to Suffolk County 

[B35 via Church]

2 hours ago, rick1032 said:

I have an assignment for you and it's a very simple one. Look at the link of each of the proposed routes and explain how each route is long and far in distance, and I would attempt to counter your statement or agree with it. Also, look at the population in the neighboring areas that each proposed route travel now versus 5 years ago. Finally, go to YouTube and look up PinePowerLI as well as Andrew Lee; watch their videos about NICE Bus and how people living in Nassau is either moving back to the boroughs for more convenient bus services or move to Suffolk County 

You just destroyed your own argument..... You're implicating that some of these routes of yours aren't long, while concurrently making a talking point out of population increases b/w 5 years ago & now.... By that grand logic, runtime would be longer because there would be more people presumably using these bus routes of yours...

Now go on & make a youtube video about that too.

[rick1032]

7 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

You just destroyed your own argument..... You're implicating that some of these routes of yours aren't long, while concurrently making a talking point out of population increases b/w 5 years ago & now.... By that grand logic, runtime would be longer because there would be more people presumably using these bus routes of yours...

Now go on & make a youtube video about that too.

I guess you saw my Youtube video. Which means you felt offended that I have categorized some people on here that was blocking future people who want to be interested in a part of this or any future forum-based website. When I use certain Youtubers who ACTUALLY lived in their counties can verify their problems about their bus service. You assume that I'm destroying my own argument (which I am not). It's called being open minded. Unless you want me be like #45 and have a close-minded attitude (which you are having right now), most times we have to help each other to make certain proposals better or justify why each proposal is better. That is why I gave the person before the assignment of why each proposed bus route is long and I can counter the argument or agree with certain things. Just like another person who went down route by route of why each one is good or why each one is bad. When I use these YouTubers PinePowerLI or Andrew Lee, you never know that they could be part of this forum-based website. Also, they have references too; whether if its first-person account (their own experience) or third-person account (from newsday, or other website). If I was making proposal about Brooklyn (according to your profile), we would have a heated debate because it's your borough and you know more about Brooklyn than me. So, with all due respect don't be like the people that I refer to about hindering the growth of the bus/rail fanning community. Instead, be the one who actually encourages the growth of the bus/rail fanning community.

[NY1635]

10 hours ago, rick1032 said:

I have an assignment for you and it's a very simple one. Look at the link of each of the proposed routes and explain how each route is long and far in distance, and I would attempt to counter your statement or agree with it. Also, look at the population in the neighboring areas that each proposed route travel now versus 5 years ago. Finally, go to YouTube and look up PinePowerLI as well as Andrew Lee; watch their videos about NICE Bus and how people living in Nassau is either moving back to the boroughs for more convenient bus services or move to Suffolk County 

People are moving out of Suffolk County because they don't want to put up with the long commute into the city on the LIRR, traffic on the expressways, high school taxes, and low quality of living. Same goes for Nassau east of the Meadowbrook and South of Merrick Road. NICE only giving Nassau the bus service they're willing to pay for. I doubt PinePower understand that the demand for bus service in Nassau has shifted away from within the county, to transporting people in and out of it. It's why the n4,n6, n22/n24, n15, n31/32, n40/n41, and n43 are doing well out of all the routes in the system.

[rick1032]

1 minute ago, NY1635 said:

People are moving out of Suffolk County because they don't want to put up with the long commute into the city on the LIRR, traffic on the expressways, high school taxes, and low quality of living. Same goes for Nassau east of the Meadowbrook and South of Merrick Road. NICE only giving Nassau the bus service they're willing to pay for. I doubt PinePower understand that the demand for bus service in Nassau has shifted away from within the county, to transporting people in and out of it. It's why the n4,n6, n22/n24, n15, n31/32, n40/n41, and n43 are doing well out of all the routes in the system.

I never knew about suffolk county. I just found out that there is a county executive election in Nassau and which one of the person who is running for county executive trying to void the contract with transdev (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fS7dovz1Y&t=251s) and hopefully might bring back the MTA (highly doubt it). I agree with you about the shift of Nassau but that why I see a lot of people moving to Queens mostly Jamaica. To the point they call Jamaica Ave Downtown Jamaica. I felt like gentrification is in full effect. But thank you for giving me your insight.

 

[NY1635]

11 minutes ago, rick1032 said:

I never knew about suffolk county. I just found out that there is a county executive election in Nassau and which one of the person who is running for county executive trying to void the contract with transdev (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fS7dovz1Y&t=251s) and hopefully might bring back the MTA (highly doubt it). I agree with you about the shift of Nassau but that why I see a lot of people moving to Queens mostly Jamaica. To the point they call Jamaica Ave Downtown Jamaica. I felt like gentrification is in full effect. But thank you for giving me your insight.

 

Nah, Pine Power is an idiot. It makes no sense for Nassau to void a contract with a client they underfunded. People moving in Queens are new to the area. The long time residents are bailing for PA, VA, Florida, or North Carolina for suburban living at a much lower cost than LI.

[Gotham Bus Co.]

1 hour ago, rick1032 said:

I never knew about suffolk county. I just found out that there is a county executive election in Nassau and which one of the person who is running for county executive trying to void the contract with transdev (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fS7dovz1Y&t=251s) and hopefully might bring back the MTA (highly doubt it). I agree with you about the shift of Nassau but that why I see a lot of people moving to Queens mostly Jamaica. To the point they call Jamaica Ave Downtown Jamaica. I felt like gentrification is in full effect. But thank you for giving me your insight.

 

The idea is clearly to fire Transdev and go back to not paying the MTA.

[B35 via Church]

2 hours ago, rick1032 said:

I guess you saw my Youtube video. Which means you felt offended that I have categorized some people on here that was blocking future people who want to be interested in a part of this or any future forum-based website. When I use certain Youtubers who ACTUALLY lived in their counties can verify their problems about their bus service. You assume that I'm destroying my own argument (which I am not). It's called being open minded. Unless you want me be like #45 and have a close-minded attitude (which you are having right now), most times we have to help each other to make certain proposals better or justify why each proposal is better. That is why I gave the person before the assignment of why each proposed bus route is long and I can counter the argument or agree with certain things. Just like another person who went down route by route of why each one is good or why each one is bad. When I use these YouTubers PinePowerLI or Andrew Lee, you never know that they could be part of this forum-based website. Also, they have references too; whether if its first-person account (their own experience) or third-person account (from newsday, or other website).

If I was making proposal about Brooklyn (according to your profile), we would have a heated debate because it's your borough and you know more about Brooklyn than me. So, with all due respect don't be like the people that I refer to about hindering the growth of the bus/rail fanning community. Instead, be the one who actually encourages the growth of the bus/rail fanning community.

Don't flatter yourself... I've caught more heat from spambots than anything you said in that whiny ass video of yours.

You should be embarrassed - On here amping up Pinepower like he's some sort of transit guru.... The guy's a whimperous (just like that weak sauce ass video of yours *so-called* calling us out), miserable, never satisfied, "poop my pants" (his words), living off the public dole, failure at life ass RACIST.... You want to support a piece of garbage like that, then to hell with you too.....

What a gleeful moment it was, back when some of those hispanics in his area had him scared shitless when they ended up finding out his phone # - prank calling him all times of the day.... What kind of god damn nutcase goes around walking around town recording "illegals" "loitering"? Yeah, they spotted him one day - Ahi esta, Ahi esta (There he is, there he is)..... The man's lucky that's ALL they did was prank call him.....

I never know that he could be a part of these forums? Little do you know that he has quite the history on these transit forums... He's been banned from here TWICE (minimum), banned from City-Data at least once, and got ran off subchat multiple times and his last stint on this forum here as well.... Like you, he also made some whiny ass video so-called calling us out.... He even kept text logs of all the things people on these forums ever said that hurt his little tissue paper feelings; planned to use it as "evidence" - Threatened to call the authorities on some of us (Yes, I was one the names he mentioned).... This was around 6 or 7 years ago - I'm still waiting for that knock on my door....

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There was no assumption made with that last reply, I used your own words against you... Call it being open-minded if you wish...

To hell with "my borough" & there being some heated debate, I know more about Queens' bus routes than you do - I guarantee that.... You chose the right one, kid...... Anybody that thinks bus routes running between [Broadway Junction to Floral Park], [Downtown Brooklyn to LIRR Jamaica], [Glenmore plaza houses to St. Albans] especially, has got to be one ignorant son of a gun.... There is NOTHING you could muster up to try to pass that crap off as plausible.... The modus operandi of your types always justify long winded ass routes by having them as LTD's or SBS'.... Been through the myriad of *hot shot, I'm a newcomer, I got shit all figured out* irritant types over the years..... They're all the same & they all justify their ideas the same way..... Their commentaries & suggestions end up getting shot down because they convey & portray little to no understanding of how the routes they draw up would affect the bus network (if they even consider the rest of the network to begin with), then getting butthurt because there isn't anybody co-signing their suggestions.... Then NYCTF becomes public enemy #1....

I don't think you get the full gist of how extensive the knowledge archived & displayed on this forum is (even if it has our own little personal twists on things).... Surface or Rapid transit.... We do DEEP into shit, some more than others..... We learn off each other & that is key..... And Inside information? Forget it, the shit's A1 - Untouchable...

So with no due respect, don't lecture me on being a hindrance.... Capice? Comprende? Got it, Rick?

[Future ENY OP]

1 hour ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

The idea is clearly to fire Transdev and go back to not paying the MTA.

I will say this.  Nassau created their own demise, and they are aggressively trying to get out a situation that happened 5 years ago if both sides came to an agreement on how to operate Long Island Bus effectively. If this new Nassau County executive can REALLY CONVINCE THE to come back into the picture, but in what expense?

Edited October 29, 2017 by Future ENY OP

[Future ENY OP]

Don't even entertain that mess @B35 via Church.. Certain people create trouble for themselves. 

[rick1032]

59 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Don't flatter yourself... I've caught more heat from spambots than anything you said in that whiny ass video of yours.

You should be embarrassed - On here amping up Pinepower like he's some sort of transit guru.... The guy's a whimperous (just like that weak sauce ass video of yours *so-called* calling us out), miserable, never satisfied, "poop my pants" (his words), living off the public dole, failure at life ass RACIST.... You want to support a piece of garbage like that, then to hell with you too.....

What a gleeful moment it was, back when some of those hispanics in his area had him scared shitless when they ended up finding out his phone # - prank calling him all times of the day.... What kind of god damn nutcase goes around walking around town recording "illegals" "loitering"? Yeah, they spotted him one day - Ahi esta, Ahi esta (There he is, there he is)..... The man's lucky that's ALL they did was prank call him.....

I never know that he could be a part of these forums? Little do you know that he has quite the history on these transit forums... He's been banned from here TWICE (minimum), banned from City-Data at least once, and got ran off subchat multiple times and his last stint on this forum here as well.... Like you, he also made some whiny ass video so-called calling us out.... He even kept text logs of all the things people on these forums ever said that hurt his little tissue paper feelings; planned to use it as "evidence" - Threatened to call the authorities on some of us (Yes, I was one the names he mentioned).... This was around 6 or 7 years ago - I'm still waiting for that knock on my door....

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There was no assumption made with that last reply, I used your own words against you... Call it being open-minded if you wish...

To hell with "my borough" & there being some heated debate, I know more about Queens' bus routes than you do - I guarantee that.... You chose the right one, kid...... Anybody that thinks bus routes running between [Broadway Junction to Floral Park], [Downtown Brooklyn to LIRR Jamaica], [Glenmore plaza houses to St. Albans] especially, has got to be one ignorant son of a gun.... There is NOTHING you could muster up to try to pass that crap off as plausible.... The modus operandi of your types always justify long winded ass routes by having them as LTD's or SBS'.... Been through the myriad of *hot shot, I'm a newcomer, I got shit all figured out* irritant types over the years..... They're all the same & they all justify their ideas the same way..... Their commentaries & suggestions end up getting shot down because they convey & portray little to no understanding of how the routes they draw up would affect the bus network (if they even consider the rest of the network to begin with), then getting butthurt because there isn't anybody co-signing their suggestions.... Then NYCTF becomes public enemy #1....

I don't think you get the full gist of how extensive the knowledge archived & displayed on this forum is (even if it has our own little personal twists on things).... Surface or Rapid transit.... We do DEEP into shit, some more than others..... We learn off each other & that is key..... And Inside information? Forget it, the shit's A1 - Untouchable...

So with no due respect, don't lecture me on being a hindrance.... Capice? Comprende? Got it, Rick?

Let me tell you something, I don't agree with PinePowerLI in terms with the hispanics and all the other races which he mentioned. That's why I fast forward his video when he talk about hispanics, blacks and other minorites and look for the bus aspect of his videos. That's an another story for another time. To remind you, I am not for #45 like he was. And I'm have proven that I'm not spambot, since you have watch my video. I specifically said if anyone has a problem, we would have a video chat and have a debate just like the mayoral debate about each proposal and how we can make each proposal better because I agree with the bus aspect of his argument but the other stuff he has done here to you guys, I don't what's going on between him and the other members here; I don't get involved in other people's problem. All I care about my problem, and maybe your right. I don't know too much about buses and other things. That is why I have joined this forum, so I can increase my knowledge by having an open mind and retain information from other people and learn from it. And the way you wrote this long message, you don't want anyone to learn about the bus/rail fanning community. In fact, you are actually hindering future bus/rail fanners. So instead of bashing me, just say my proposal is adequate but let me explain how the bus system really works and i would have make my proposals better or eliminate some of my proposals. And I never am a hotshot, I'm very humble. If I was a hot shot, i would write a response more on emotion just like the message above but I'm really not. And I don't believe in lecturing people, I'm more like suggesting or giving an advice. Take it from me personally, the best lesson learned is personal experience. Don't be like #45, let us be like Obama (i'm a proud democrat). And let's have a future debates that doesn't lead into violence or any emotional conflict. I want you to watch "Enter the Dragon" there is a scene of how Bruce Lee taught the boy how to fight or think of "the Karate Kid" (it can be a remake too) of how the Kid has a mentor that teaches him every aspect of the martial arts by doing weird and unusual tactics. In other words, some people want to be your apprentice or other members apprentice. Don't turn down the newcomer whether if its me or anyone else. Take advantage of spreading your knowledge of someone who is eager to learn from you.

 

[Gotham Bus Co.]

2 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

I will say this.  Nassau created their own demise, and they are aggressively trying to get out a situation that happened 5 years ago if both sides came to an agreement on how to operate Long Island Bus effectively. If this new Nassau County executive can REALLY CONVINCE THE to come back into the picture, but in what expense?

At the (MTA)'s expense, of course. Nassau County fired the as its contract carrier because the contractor had the chutzpah to want to be paid.

[B35 via Church]

11 hours ago, rick1032 said:

Let me tell you something, I don't agree with PinePowerLI in terms with the hispanics and all the other races which he mentioned. That's why I fast forward his video when he talk about hispanics, blacks and other minorites and look for the bus aspect of his videos. That's an another story for another time. To remind you, I am not for #45 like he was. And I'm have proven that I'm not spambot, since you have watch my video. I specifically said if anyone has a problem, we would have a video chat and have a debate just like the mayoral debate about each proposal and how we can make each proposal better because I agree with the bus aspect of his argument but the other stuff he has done here to you guys, I don't what's going on between him and the other members here; I don't get involved in other people's problem. All I care about my problem, and maybe your right. I don't know too much about buses and other things. That is why I have joined this forum, so I can increase my knowledge by having an open mind and retain information from other people and learn from it. And the way you wrote this long message, you don't want anyone to learn about the bus/rail fanning community. In fact, you are actually hindering future bus/rail fanners. So instead of bashing me, just say my proposal is adequate but let me explain how the bus system really works and i would have make my proposals better or eliminate some of my proposals. And I never am a hotshot, I'm very humble. If I was a hot shot, i would write a response more on emotion just like the message above but I'm really not. And I don't believe in lecturing people, I'm more like suggesting or giving an advice. Take it from me personally, the best lesson learned is personal experience. Don't be like #45, let us be like Obama (i'm a proud democrat). And let's have a future debates that doesn't lead into violence or any emotional conflict. I want you to watch "Enter the Dragon" there is a scene of how Bruce Lee taught the boy how to fight or think of "the Karate Kid" (it can be a remake too) of how the Kid has a mentor that teaches him every aspect of the martial arts by doing weird and unusual tactics. In other words, some people want to be your apprentice or other members apprentice. Don't turn down the newcomer whether if its me or anyone else. Take advantage of spreading your knowledge of someone who is eager to learn from you.

I didn't say YOU were a spambot... Re-read that sentence again.

Anyway, your first posts were incoherent & not feasible to read.... That is nobody's else's fault but yours... You caught flack for that.... You made a youtube video out of emotion - That said more than enough....

So let's not start playing innocent victim here..... Don't try to spin it like we're turning down newcomers just for the hell of it.... I'll give you the perfect example of someone that used to post wild ideas when he first came into this online community, but has exuded a hell of a lot more sensibility in his suggestions & quite frankly, how he handles himself on here... and that person is@BM5 via Woodhaven.... I'm sure if he sees this thread, he'll confirm & in the process, look back at the suggestions he made yeeaarrsss ago as being, flat out stupid.....

I'm going to close this out by saying, Start acting like someone who is eager to learn.... That goes for you & any other newcomer to this forum.

[rick1032]

4 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I didn't say YOU were a spambot... Re-read that sentence again.

Anyway, your first posts were incoherent & not feasible to read.... That is nobody's else's fault but yours... You caught flack for that.... You made a youtube video out of emotion - That said more than enough....

So let's not start playing innocent victim here..... Don't try to spin it like we're turning down newcomers just for the hell of it.... I'll give you the perfect example of someone that used to post wild ideas when he first came into this online community, but has exuded a hell of a lot more sensibility in his suggestions & quite frankly, how he handles himself on here... and that person is@BM5 via Woodhaven.... I'm sure if he sees this thread, he'll confirm & in the process, look back at the suggestions he made yeeaarrsss ago as being, flat out stupid.....

I'm going to close this out by saying, Start acting like someone who is eager to learn.... That goes for you & any other newcomer to this forum.

I understand that my very first post is incoherent and I agree with you on that. If you have understand the content of the video, it's more like "what the hell" than more of a slander video. I challenged you on a video chat debate about each of my proposed route and you have yet to answer. I'm eager to learn but you have to stop with "the puffing up on the chest" and have humility and modify your approach to future newcomers. And if you have read my first post or my video, I have used a disclaimer which states, " I am a newcomer, please don't bust my chops. It's my very first forum, just take it easy." Since you have disregard my forum disclaimer, either you or your entourage put a meme about a guy that trip over some stairs and fell in the hole which all of you referring to me. On a personal note, I have felt legitimately offended. We can disagree or agree on certain topics but when it comes to the meme and you getting into your feelings through your messages. I felt like that you want a legit beef with me and I'm not looking for that. And I'm always eager to learn but your approach needs to change. When I use the term "with all due respect", I have respect for people who are elders and people who have experience on certain things and I'm not expecting you to respect me. That's how I am raised because we live in an era that people don't care about respect anymore and my generation is partly responsible for it (90-93 babies). But at the end of the day, let's love each other instead of taking things to a level that is really not necessary for both parties. (Drops the mic)

Edited October 30, 2017 by rick1032

[B35 via Church]

13 hours ago, rick1032 said:

I understand that my very first post is incoherent and I agree with you on that. If you have understand the content of the video, it's more like "what the hell" than more of a slander video. I challenged you on a video chat debate about each of my proposed route and you have yet to answer. I'm eager to learn but you have to stop with "the puffing up on the chest" and have humility and modify your approach to future newcomers. And if you have read my first post or my video, I have used a disclaimer which states, " I am a newcomer, please don't bust my chops. It's my very first forum, just take it easy." Since you have disregard my forum disclaimer, either you or your entourage put a meme about a guy that trip over some stairs and fell in the hole which all of you referring to me. On a personal note, I have felt legitimately offended. We can disagree or agree on certain topics but when it comes to the meme and you getting into your feelings through your messages. I felt like that you want a legit beef with me and I'm not looking for that. And I'm always eager to learn but your approach needs to change. When I use the term "with all due respect", I have respect for people who are elders and people who have experience on certain things and I'm not expecting you to respect me. That's how I am raised because we live in an era that people don't care about respect anymore and my generation is partly responsible for it (90-93 babies). But at the end of the day, let's love each other instead of taking things to a level that is really not necessary for both parties. (Drops the mic)

Now why on god's good green doggone earth would I want to talk to the likes of you in a video chat about these long winded, highly duplicative, ignorant of the rest of the bus network bus routes of yours.... To hear you regurgitate the same lame duck, *oh let me just concoct any ole thing so these people can shut up* explanations of them that you posted earlier in this thread? You really are full of yourself.... Don't talk to me about someone being in their feelings either, when you are the same dude talking about "let's love each other" on a transit forum.... TF is this, Jerry Springer's final thought? A Joel Osteen sermon? Go home with all that.....

That poor SOB that fell down those stairs in that GIF was classic, you gotta admit .... Now I don't wish actual harm to you, per se (because it aint nowhere near that serious), but you are a bit of an irritant.... This isn't about any puffing of chests, wanting of beef, or busting of chops - I'm not hungry, but thank you... It is about some of these asinine, asi-10, asi-11 ass ideas of yours & your unwillingness to take heed to the critique that you actually did end up getting....

You are not unique around these parts, you're straight up cookie-cutter - just like the rest of these hot shots that have these ideas that (think) they got things all figured out... If these are supposed to be old ideas, then why haven't you modernized them? If you even have the wherewithal to.... Things that make you go Hmm.....

(Kicks that mic')

 

Edited October 31, 2017 by B35 via Church

[rick1032]

2 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Now why on god's good green doggone earth would I want to talk to the likes of you in a video chat about these long winded, highly duplicative, ignorant of the rest of the bus network bus routes of yours.... To hear you regurgitate the same lame duck, *oh let me just concoct any ole thing so these people can shut up* explanations of them that you posted earlier in this thread? You really are full of yourself.... Don't talk to me about someone being in their feelings either, when you are the same dude talking about "let's love each other" on a transit forum.... TF is this, Jerry Springer's final thought? A Joel Osteen sermon? Go home with all that.....

That poor SOB that fell down those stairs in that GIF was classic, you gotta admit .... Now I don't wish actual harm to you, per se (because it aint nowhere near that serious), but you are a bit of an irritant.... This isn't about any puffing of chests, wanting of beef, or busting of chops - I'm not hungry, but thank you... It is about some of these asinine, asi-10, asi-11 ass ideas of yours & your unwillingness to take heed to the critique that you actually did end up getting....

You are not unique around these parts, you're straight up cookie-cutter - just like the rest of these hot shots that have these ideas that (think) they got things all figured out... If these are supposed to be old ideas, then why haven't you modernized them? If you even have the wherewithal to.... Things that make you go Hmm.....

(Kicks that mic')

 

(Picks up a mic) There is a difference between constructive criticism and being disrespectful; your messages are in more of disrespectful category than the constructive criticism aspect. Also, your messages verified something about you, that you really are that you're "claiming" that I am. And I bet my dollar, you would try to block me or get me banned or whatever. I'm not an internet thug as you perceived me to be; hence your second to last message. As much I would ether you just like 50 cent did to Ja Rule, I wouldn't do that because we all should be brothers; also we should help each other make ideas. Also, I learn to take everyone seriously and don't take anyone lightly because we never know what each party is capable of (since you use PinePowerLI and I completely agree with you that he's unstable and go through extreme length to make someone life a living hell). You have to get ready for someone worse than him and trust me, there is a new millennium of people who have this "hotshot" persona which you claimed that I have. And the only difference between me and them, is that we (me and you) on the internet debating but at the end of day, we go on our real life and focus on other aspects of things. Unlike this current generation (tight pants and emotionally ready f-boys), they would video tape everything whether if its a fight or go on and act a fool. or even worse calling someone out and actually doing some stalker or "unsolved mystery" crap.

And yes, I'm a walking contradiction and I'm proud of being a walking contradiction. I don't believe in logic and November 9, 2016 proved that there is no such thing as logic. I rather loved to be proven wrong and learn from my mistakes. In contrast of your approach, you're playing with fire and I was like you. I was the person who is like Enzo Amore (Wrestling reference) and look what happened to him; got major heat with other wrestlers, getting kicked off the company bus and got demoted. Or I can go back to your time, Morton Downey Jr.; biggest loudmouth of all time. He makes Simon Cowell look like Tinkerbell. What happen to me, you asked? I got shut down by facts and that was my very first lesson of humility. But as the old saying goes you can't teach a old dog new tricks.  If you think that I'm a novice, a peon, a nobody; prove it to me. Prove that I'm a carbon copy of hotshots here. Accept my challenge of the debate and we can get an UNBIASED moderator who can regulate the debate. Where I come from, if someone challenge me to a debate on something that I'm good at; I would accept it and ether my challengers. Also, I can keep in mind that I can be wrong. I see you in the category of Lavar Ball. I'll be like Mike Rapaport and ether you.  (throws the mic between your legs) IT'S TRUE! IT'S DAMN TRUE!!! 

Edited October 31, 2017 by rick1032