Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 11, 2012 Share #1126 Posted July 11, 2012 What's more realistic is a Downtown-JFK service. I call it the B55. It would be SBS, and it would pretty much be a "Brooklyn Connector." I would agree with your comment in bold... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 11, 2012 Share #1127 Posted July 11, 2012 Any route using the BQE, IMO is a bad idea..... This. ....and that includes the B110.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 11, 2012 Share #1128 Posted July 11, 2012 Why SBS try LTD first and then if this B55 works then consider it later on to make it SBS. That's after all the other already proposed SBS routes are completed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 11, 2012 Share #1129 Posted July 11, 2012 Why SBS try LTD first and then if this B55 works then consider it later on to make it SBS. That's after all the other already proposed SBS routes are completed. That makes sense. If it does become SBS, the service lanes on Linden would be the bus lane(s). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 11, 2012 Share #1130 Posted July 11, 2012 I believe there should be a Downtown Brooklyn service to LGA. I would name it the B84 and have it run to LGA via BQE after long island city. just an idea already came up with the idea months ago. However I do think it can work with these stops metropolitan(G) then jackson heights then exit to 23rd ave to LGA. via bus lanes south of jackson heights. Then through downtown brooklyn. Any route using the BQE, IMO is a bad idea. I also belive that buses are banned along a certain section in Queens, so it wouldn't work anyway. What's more realistic is a Downtown-JFK service. I call it the B55. It would be SBS, and it would pretty much be a "Brooklyn Connector." https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=213458373195564989412.0004c48e95e8ef352bf01&msa=0&ll=40.668172,-73.932753&spn=0.018847,0.038409 any route on BQE Without bus lane/HOV BUSWAY will fail BUT if done with HOV IT WILL WORK!!!!! BUT a JFK route from bowntown brooklyn will FAIL the already does this. Your better off with bay ridge via ft hamilton SUPER LTD. Inaccurate buses are NOT banned on any part of the BQE do your research before shooting down any idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 12, 2012 Share #1131 Posted July 12, 2012 Any route using the BQE, IMO is a bad idea. I also belive that buses are banned along a certain section in Queens, so it wouldn't work anyway. What's more realistic is a Downtown-JFK service. I call it the B55. It would be SBS, and it would pretty much be a "Brooklyn Connector." https://maps.google....018847,0.038409 Eh, I think most people in Downtown Brooklyn would just take the to the AirTrain. For the East Flatbush area, maybe there's some way to speed up the B35 (I think if you take out the parking, you can squeeze in a bus lane) to connect to the B15. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 12, 2012 Share #1132 Posted July 12, 2012 Eh, I think most people in Downtown Brooklyn would just take the to the AirTrain. For the East Flatbush area, maybe there's some way to speed up the B35 (I think if you take out the parking, you can squeeze in a bus lane) to connect to the B15. The bus can be faster than the at times, especially with the timers on Fulton Street. Plus, this is the Brooklyn Connector. It's more meant as a connection across Central Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted July 12, 2012 Share #1133 Posted July 12, 2012 Any route using the BQE, IMO is a bad idea. I also belive that buses are banned along a certain section in Queens, so it wouldn't work anyway. What's more realistic is a Downtown-JFK service. I call it the B55. It would be SBS, and it would pretty much be a "Brooklyn Connector." https://maps.google....018847,0.038409 I agree, the BQE always has heavy traffic during the rush, there is no need for a bus to go on it... I like your idea too, just make it a LTD as College Pt Man said, it would be more realistic if it was.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 12, 2012 Share #1134 Posted July 12, 2012 The bus can be faster than the at times, especially with the timers on Fulton Street. Plus, this is the Brooklyn Connector. It's more meant as a connection across Central Brooklyn. you cant be serious NO BUS Is faster than besides LIRR/airtrain is an option too. Bqe buses wont work without HOV but with HOV you may take cars off the road cause the bus will be faster. Hov bus is better than no bus at all if it takes cars off the road then SI Xpress buses wont have to put up with gowanus traffic as much improving reliability of X17/10/1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 12, 2012 Share #1135 Posted July 12, 2012 or make it a variant of B35 LTD via linden from sunset park to jfk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1136 Posted July 13, 2012 The bus can be faster than the at times, especially with the timers on Fulton Street. Plus, this is the Brooklyn Connector. It's more meant as a connection across Central Brooklyn. I doubt that the recent addition of timers to the Fulton line has added more than a minute from end to end. Old schedules from the early 2000s can show that. The takes 29 minutes from Jay St to Howard Beach. Do you think that a bus can beat that? Considering that the is such a direct route through Brooklyn, I think that a bus linking JFK airport with Manhattan would be less redundant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1137 Posted July 13, 2012 I doubt that the recent addition of timers to the Fulton line has added more than a minute from end to end. Old schedules from the early 2000s can show that. The takes 29 minutes from Jay St to Howard Beach. Do you think that a bus can beat that? Considering that the is such a direct route through Brooklyn, I think that a bus linking JFK airport with Manhattan would be less redundant. such a bus exists NY Airport service OR BM5 to 79th to B15. BUT your better off with LIRR/Airtrain if you want JFK from manhattan. Only a brooklyn to jfk can work plus it MUST NOT originate from an area served by the OR IT WILL FAIL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1138 Posted July 13, 2012 or make it a variant of B35 LTD via linden from sunset park to jfk Ok, I don't even know here... I doubt that the recent addition of timers to the Fulton line has added more than a minute from end to end. Old schedules from the early 2000s can show that. The takes 29 minutes from Jay St to Howard Beach. Do you think that a bus can beat that? Considering that the is such a direct route through Brooklyn, I think that a bus linking JFK airport with Manhattan would be less redundant. It's not just for Downtown-JFK service, or it would have been an express bus. It's a through route through central Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1139 Posted July 13, 2012 Not addressing the stupid B35 to JFK BS anymore.... Eh, I think most people in Downtown Brooklyn would just take the to the AirTrain. For the East Flatbush area, maybe there's some way to speed up the B35 (I think if you take out the parking, you can squeeze in a bus lane) to connect to the B15. Can't see anyone in downtown wanting to take a bus to JFK..... hell, a bus from SI to downtown brooklyn would even make more sense - and I don't think that would flourish all too well either..... As for the B35/B15, what do you mean by ".....squeeze in a bus lane to connect with the 15" ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1140 Posted July 13, 2012 There's no space on Church Avenue for a bus lane. (which is what I think he means) The street has too many stores which get deliveries at all hours, and Church Avenue itself is tiny... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1141 Posted July 13, 2012 There's no space on Church Avenue for a bus lane. (which is what I think he means) The street has too many stores which get deliveries at all hours, and Church Avenue itself is tiny... Of course I know all that.... But I just wanna make sure what he meant..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1142 Posted July 13, 2012 Can't see anyone in downtown wanting to take a bus to JFK..... hell, a bus from SI to downtown brooklyn would even make more sense - and I don't think that would flourish all too well either..... As for the B35/B15, what do you mean by ".....squeeze in a bus lane to connect with the 15" ? Basically what ThrexxBus said: For people in the East Flatbush area, they have to take the B35 to the B15, and a bus lane would help speed up the portion on the B35 portion of the trip. On Google Streetview, it didn't look to narrow, but obviously that's your neighborhood, so I'll take your word on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1143 Posted July 13, 2012 Basically what ThrexxBus said: For people in the East Flatbush area, they have to take the B35 to the B15, and a bus lane would help speed up the portion on the B35 portion of the trip. On Google Streetview, it didn't look to narrow, but obviously that's your neighborhood, so I'll take your word on it. I thought you meant to have a bus lane along e 98th & along hegaman as well along church, since you mentioned connecting w/ the 15...... The way that statement was worded came off funny to me..... What's strange about church av (the roadway) is that, it gets a little smaller each time in like 2 or 3 separate parts..... starting off at the stint b/w 98th & remsen, from there it thins a little b/w remsen & brooklyn.... then it thins a little more b/w brooklyn & ocean.... then it's at its narrowest b/w ocean av & East 7th (I think that is... the block before you hit ocean pkwy)..... ocean pkwy is where church widens up.... then west of ocean pkwy, it's about the same width as the stint b/w 98th/remsen..... Just like the stint along utica north of eastern pkwy narrows, that's how the stint along church b/w ocean & E 7th is..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1144 Posted July 13, 2012 I doubt that the recent addition of timers to the Fulton line has added more than a minute from end to end. Old schedules from the early 2000s can show that. The takes 29 minutes from Jay St to Howard Beach. Do you think that a bus can beat that? Considering that the is such a direct route through Brooklyn, I think that a bus linking JFK airport with Manhattan would be less redundant. UM In what world are you living in? 30 mins to get from Downtown Brooklyn to JFK??? That statement is totally absurd. I frequent the train going to Far Rock. (Take it from me). I don't read train data. its called experience. From Midtown Manhattan to Broadway- East New York w/o DELAYS is 45 min.. With DELAYS.. 1 Hour. and vice versa. From Washington Heights to Broadway-East New York w/o DELAYS is about 70 mins (express), local add another 30 mins. From Broadway-East New York to the Airport is about 25 mins W/O DELAYS... With delays.. 40 mins and delays are usually on Rockaway Blvd and Howard Beach congestion. So downtown Brooklyn to JFK airport 30 mins.. INVALID. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 13, 2012 Share #1145 Posted July 13, 2012 UM In what world are you living in? 30 mins to get from Downtown Brooklyn to JFK??? That statement is totally absurd. I frequent the train going to Far Rock. (Take it from me). I don't read train data. its called experience. From Midtown Manhattan to Broadway- East New York w/o DELAYS is 45 min.. With DELAYS.. 1 Hour. and vice versa. From Washington Heights to Broadway-East New York w/o DELAYS is about 70 mins (express), local add another 30 mins. From Broadway-East New York to the Airport is about 25 mins W/O DELAYS... With delays.. 40 mins and delays are usually on Rockaway Blvd and Howard Beach congestion. So downtown Brooklyn to JFK airport 30 mins.. INVALID. If all trains were THAT far off schedule, then on-time performance would be MUCH worse than it is. I don't want to turn this thread into an argument about the schedule, but if you don't believe me, you can see this video: The train is at Howard Beach at 19:00, and at Jay St at 49:00. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 14, 2012 Share #1146 Posted July 14, 2012 What exactly is being dissented here...... - From downtown bklyn to howard beach station in 1/2 hour isn't that far fetched..... - From downtown bklyn to the actual JFK terminals via the A & AIRTrain easily takes more than 1/2 hour.... In either case, the point is, riders w/i downtown bklyn.aint fin to wanna take public transit by way of a bus to JFK...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted July 14, 2012 Share #1147 Posted July 14, 2012 ok i think the B36 going to Coney Island should change its last stop to Coney Island west 33rd st...the bus makes a loop around coney island...but sometimes buses finishing their route say last stop and people have to wait for the next one to come in order to transfer...why not make the last stop 33rd and neptune...then buses that finish their route can just turn and deadhead down neptune...33rd and mermaid is fine because you can walk a block from surf or mermaid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #1148 Posted July 15, 2012 I agree with the B36 change. Less confusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #1149 Posted July 15, 2012 ok i think the B36 going to Coney Island should change its last stop to Coney Island west 33rd st...the bus makes a loop around coney island...but sometimes buses finishing their route say last stop and people have to wait for the next one to come in order to transfer...why not make the last stop 33rd and neptune...then buses that finish their route can just turn and deadhead down neptune...33rd and mermaid is fine because you can walk a block from surf or mermaid Doing that would alienate Sea Gate residents. They already get limited X28/X38 service as it is. At least let them have access to local bus service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #1150 Posted July 15, 2012 Doing that would alienate Sea Gate residents. They already get limited X28/X38 service as it is. At least let them have access to local bus service. Not saying I agree or disagree, but there's still the B74. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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