User Posted January 8, 2013 Share #201 Posted January 8, 2013 The N14 hasn't seen increased ridership with the better connections to the LIRR? They use one bus for the N14, and they connect to the LIRR, making it an extension of the N16 would reduce reliability. Where has the N14 seen increased ridership? I have yet to see ONE ridership report from NICE proving that statement. Ridership has dropped towards the end of last year altogether, but as far as every single route, we have no information unless you look all the way back to Long Island Bus in 2011. And as for reliability, with NICE, buses go out and they don't go out. It's all hit or miss. What if that one N14 bus that is responsible for all the runs doesn't go out on a day? Then thats a problem, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted January 9, 2013 Share #202 Posted January 9, 2013 Did MTA LIB release ridership info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 9, 2013 Share #203 Posted January 9, 2013 Did MTA LIB release ridership info? Yes, they did in 2011 when they released the cuts they proposed if they were to continue service in 2012. I have the pdf uploaded on my site. http://brettnyc.com/photos/bluebook_libus.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 9, 2013 Share #204 Posted January 9, 2013 Yes, they did in 2011 when they released the cuts they proposed if they were to continue service in 2012. I have the pdf uploaded on my site. http://brettnyc.com/photos/bluebook_libus.pdf They also did it back in early 2010 when they were doing the cuts here in NYC. Anyway, that's great that you managed to save the ones from 2011. For some reason, they always delete these documents after a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 9, 2013 Share #205 Posted January 9, 2013 They also did it back in early 2010 when they were doing the cuts here in NYC. Anyway, that's great that you managed to save the ones from 2011. For some reason, they always delete these documents after a year or so. I have the one from 2010 as well. I'll upload it if anyone wants. I put the 2011 one up because thats the most recent ridership data we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 9, 2013 Share #206 Posted January 9, 2013 I have the one from 2010 as well. I'll upload it if anyone wants. I put the 2011 one up because thats the most recent ridership data we have. I have the one from 2010 as well. I'll upload it if anyone wants. I put the 2011 one up because thats the most recent ridership data we have. Please Brett, please put 2010 version as well. When I check google map street view, n28 still exist in street view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted January 10, 2013 Share #207 Posted January 10, 2013 Google Maps doesn't know shit about transit. Some stops aren't even shown on the map until you actually search for 'em and some stops are even misplaced (I know various bus stops that are clearly visible from satellite view but they pinned 'em (the bus logo) somewhere far off in the grass behind it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 11, 2013 Share #208 Posted January 11, 2013 Google Maps doesn't know shit about transit. Some stops aren't even shown on the map until you actually search for 'em and some stops are even misplaced (I know various bus stops that are clearly visible from satellite view but they pinned 'em (the bus logo) somewhere far off in the grass behind it). people who use google for transit are fools transit directions on google= FAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 11, 2013 Share #209 Posted January 11, 2013 Please Brett, please put 2010 version as well. When I check google map street view, n28 still exist in street view. Alright, here's the 2010 one: http://www.brettnyc.com/photos/100125_1617_service2010-libus.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 11, 2013 Share #210 Posted January 11, 2013 people who use google for transit are fools transit directions on google= FAIL That's a little harsh now, don't you think? Ignorant maybe, but they're not fools. I mean, they use the times and station locations the transit agencies give them. You can't expect it to be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted January 12, 2013 Share #211 Posted January 12, 2013 That's a little harsh now, don't you think? Ignorant maybe, but they're not fools. I mean, they use the times and station locations the transit agencies give them. You can't expect it to be perfect. So you expect that transit agencies say to Google "Ow yeah, that bus stop: just put in the grassy area behind the bus stop so we can troll people" and "Come on Google, you can hide those stops, no one will notice". Yeah, seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 12, 2013 Share #212 Posted January 12, 2013 Google Maps doesn't know shit about transit. Some stops aren't even shown on the map until you actually search for 'em and some stops are even misplaced (I know various bus stops that are clearly visible from satellite view but they pinned 'em (the bus logo) somewhere far off in the grass behind it). GOogle Maps has too many mistakes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 12, 2013 Share #213 Posted January 12, 2013 GOogle Maps has too many mistakes!! at least they got SEPTA right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 12, 2013 Share #214 Posted January 12, 2013 So you expect that transit agencies say to Google "Ow yeah, that bus stop: just put in the grassy area behind the bus stop so we can troll people" and "Come on Google, you can hide those stops, no one will notice". Yeah, seems legit. Well, you never know. They might just say "X Street & Y Avenue", and not give them exact directions on where to place it. In any case, my point is you can't blame the people who are using the directions. Should they follow the instructions to the letter? Of course not, but they're not stupid for using them. On a side note, I wish more transit agencies were listed on Google Transit. For instance, SCT isn't listed, and then some ones in cities like Charleston, WV aren't listed either. (That was kind of random, but still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted January 13, 2013 Share #215 Posted January 13, 2013 at least they got SEPTA right? SEPTA is the one with all the errors. With NYC buses its usually right. Don't count on it at all for NICE, or for any service within a week or two of schedule changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 13, 2013 Share #216 Posted January 13, 2013 Little off-topic, Google Maps you cannot trust when you looking for address. Sometimes certain address are different than map and real street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted January 13, 2013 Share #217 Posted January 13, 2013 Little off-topic, Google Maps you cannot trust when you looking for address. Sometimes certain address are different than map and real street. Indeed. One time I was bicycling to an address and it wanted me to go straight through water while a bridge was nearby (3 min bicycling from that point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 13, 2013 Share #218 Posted January 13, 2013 There was one time where I used Google Maps for directions and it wanted me to cut through somebody's backyard to get to a place behind their house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 13, 2013 Share #219 Posted January 13, 2013 Little off-topic, Google Maps you cannot trust when you looking for address. Sometimes certain address are different than map and real street. true I got burned in orange county with that mistake before I was pissed!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 13, 2013 Share #220 Posted January 13, 2013 true I got burned in orange county with that mistake before I was pissed!!!!!! You really need to watch how you word your posts. Everything you post is so extreme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 14, 2013 Share #221 Posted January 14, 2013 You really need to watch how you word your posts. Everything you post is so extreme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry I will be less extreme mwahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 14, 2013 Share #222 Posted January 14, 2013 I was thinking of NICE to do several things to save money without gradually affecting riders. Here they are (not yet finished) https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1eOCyXkMhUaG30j8ni_Wd2Y-evKUZsUndAeaAS-qPVZw/edit#slide=id.g4efcc11f_1_7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 14, 2013 Share #223 Posted January 14, 2013 I was thinking of NICE to do several things to save money without gradually affecting riders. Here they are (not yet finished)https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1eOCyXkMhUaG30j8ni_Wd2Y-evKUZsUndAeaAS-qPVZw/edit#slide=id.g4efcc11f_1_7 not a chance details soon I am busy at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted January 15, 2013 Share #224 Posted January 15, 2013 I was thinking of NICE to do several things to save money without gradually affecting riders. Here they are (not yet finished)https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1eOCyXkMhUaG30j8ni_Wd2Y-evKUZsUndAeaAS-qPVZw/edit#slide=id.g4efcc11f_1_7 I disagree with all of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 15, 2013 Share #225 Posted January 15, 2013 Q23, if n2/n8 was elimated, Nassau County Legislature Carrie Solage will oppose because it could overcrowd the n6 local, n6x express and n25 buses. There are no other bus goes to Green Acres Mall. Queens buses like Q5 and Q85 takes long time while NICE trip makes faster. I disagree also. n15 is way too long. Leave n23 and n27 alone. n27 weekend need to be restored to RFM. Also leave n35 alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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