Orion VII 4 Life Posted December 17, 2012 Share #251 Posted December 17, 2012 A lot has changed, and the updates will be posed this morning in the fleet and depots thread. The order is not supposed to be placed until after 4899 has been delivered. As I stated a couple weeks a go, much had changed all across the board, and the updates had yet to be posted. Options have been exercised on 2 different contracts to increase the order of CNG buses, artic plans have shifted, and the future 40 foot bus order is evolving as well. The order will be reduced to 600 buses, with 90 bus going to "Company X" for an agreement that has been reached between this undisclosed manufacturer and the MTA. Oh Boy! It's a little warm for December! What on Earth is going on now? Company X... so I suppose the 90 buses are NBQP and this will be a new manufacturer? Let it be MTS... if it's Designcrap or CRAPI I am gonna flip. Guys it's not gonna be Gillig, we've been over this, a Gillig bus will not make it on the streets of NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted December 17, 2012 Share #252 Posted December 17, 2012 Company X... so I suppose the 90 buses are NBQP and this will be a new manufacturer? Let it be MTS... if it's Designcrap or CRAPI I am gonna flip. Guys it's not gonna be Gillig, we've been over this, a Gillig bus will not make it on the streets of NY. Thats not the problem with GILLIG, its just they will not make a bus to MTA specs. When Gillig makes a bus they make it to their general specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted December 17, 2012 Share #253 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't want to go over the deep end to early... but if I see one Gillig in NYC... You already can on CitySights lol. Well you may have a chance of seeing one on NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted December 17, 2012 Share #254 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't want to go over the deep end to early... but if I see one Gillig in NYC... *cough* *cough* Gillig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted December 17, 2012 Share #255 Posted December 17, 2012 Thats not the problem with GILLIG, its just they will not make a bus to MTA specs. When Gillig makes a bus they make it to their general specs. Actually I heard they are not interested in the MTA at all. They have other TAs else where that really eliminates the chances of Gillig going to MTA. Same with NABI. They generally go for smaller and medium sized TAs like BCT, Tri-Met, and UTA to name a few. They are also most likely to win low bidders too. Recently Gillig buses have been seen in cities that have never had Gilligs before like D-Dot and Miami for example. As for whether MTA will get Gilligs or NABIs or both only time will tell, but pay close attention to this everyone on the bottom. Since Gillig is now owned by the Henry Crown Company out in Chicago anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 17, 2012 Share #256 Posted December 17, 2012 Damn you guys taking my whole Gillig remark a little too seriously... *cough* *cough* Gillig They park their buses by my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted December 17, 2012 Share #257 Posted December 17, 2012 Damn you guys taking my whole Gillig remark a little too seriously... I have a feeling it's going to be MTS with the RTS. Though I have been wrong on things before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 17, 2012 Share #258 Posted December 17, 2012 Eh, MTS seems to be agreeable to me. #shrugsshoulders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 17, 2012 Share #259 Posted December 17, 2012 Based on that agenda, the MTA may at some point by buses from elsewhere. Could that mean that they might buy foreign bus models? Who knows, but if they do, it won't be the first time (Designline). I mean, with TMC, Flexible, and Neoplan all out of the market, and now Orion going, there are only so many bus builders that the MTA can choose from: - New Flyer - Novabus -MCI -Prevost -MTS -Designline (I have a feelling they will return eventually)? -NABI (Assuming they don't go out of business down the road)? Gillig? Van Hool? Who else is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted December 17, 2012 Share #260 Posted December 17, 2012 Based on that agenda, the MTA may at some point by buses from elsewhere. Could that mean that they might buy foreign bus models? Who knows, but if they do, it won't be the first time (Designline). I mean, with TMC, Flexible, and Neoplan all out of the market, and now Orion going, there are only so many bus builders that the MTA can choose from: - New Flyer - Novabus -MCI -Prevost -MTS -Designline (I have a feelling they will return eventually)? -NABI (Assuming they don't go out of business down the road)? Gillig? Van Hool? Who else is there? El Dorado National Thomas Built Buses BlueBird That's all I can name off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted December 18, 2012 Share #261 Posted December 18, 2012 Personally, I would love to see a Van Hool in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted December 18, 2012 Share #262 Posted December 18, 2012 Also, I did the math, and everything before '99 will be retired with this order. (For both MTAB and NYCT.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 18, 2012 Share #263 Posted December 18, 2012 Also, I did the math, and everything before '99 will be retired with this order. (For both MTAB and NYCT.) That would be wrong since MTA Bus is not getting a piece of this order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 18, 2012 Share #264 Posted December 18, 2012 That would be wrong since MTA Bus is not getting a piece of this order. True, they are suppose to get 34 (or was it 44?) buses off a different contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted December 18, 2012 Share #265 Posted December 18, 2012 That would be wrong since MTA Bus is not getting a piece of this order. Good riddance...for now. Now if only MTS would get their act straight.... True, they are suppose to get 34 (or was it 44?) buses off a different contract. 34 buses off a different contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted December 18, 2012 Share #266 Posted December 18, 2012 That would be wrong since MTA Bus is not getting a piece of this order. MTA Bus could get the usual hand-me-downs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 18, 2012 Share #267 Posted December 18, 2012 Now if only MTS would get their act straight.... They havent even submitted a model yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 18, 2012 Share #268 Posted December 18, 2012 They havent even submitted a model yet... Notice that this has been said to death already...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 18, 2012 Share #269 Posted December 18, 2012 MTA Bus could get the usual hand-me-downs... Well they are pretty much the red-headed stepchild of NYCT Bus, so pretty much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 18, 2012 Share #270 Posted December 18, 2012 Notice that this has been said to death already...... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted December 18, 2012 Share #271 Posted December 18, 2012 Notice that this has been said to death already...... Unfortunately, you have to beat these things into people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 18, 2012 Share #272 Posted December 18, 2012 One word: Foamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 18, 2012 Share #273 Posted December 18, 2012 One word: Foamers. Let 'em foam, the reality will be beaten into them soon enough! Trust me young one...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted December 18, 2012 Share #274 Posted December 18, 2012 XD40s FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 19, 2012 Share #275 Posted December 19, 2012 You don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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