NYtransit Posted January 5, 2013 Share #1 Posted January 5, 2013 http://www.mta.info/nyct/rules/TransitAdjudicationBureau/rules.htm Read the fines. "Unauthorized photography, filming". Can this be true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 5, 2013 Share #2 Posted January 5, 2013 section 1050.9 still has the same text about photography http://www.mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm "Photography, filming or video recording in any facility or conveyance is permitted except that ancillary equipment such as lights, reflectors or tripods may not be used. Members of the press holding valid identification issued by the New York City Police Department are hereby authorized to use necessary ancillary equipment. All photographic activity must be conducted in accordance with the provisions of this Part." That $25 fine is probably people photographing in the tunnels or other unauthorized areas, or doing commercial photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted January 5, 2013 Share #3 Posted January 5, 2013 Nice, $50 fine for foaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted January 5, 2013 Share #4 Posted January 5, 2013 Oh well. My tunnel shots sucks anyways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #5 Posted January 5, 2013 This was already being discussed on the Subway Random Thoughts Thread a few minutes ago: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/26455-subway-random-thoughts-thread/page__st__2080?do=findComment&comment=628672 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted January 5, 2013 section 1050.9 still has the same text about photography http://www.mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm "Photography, filming or video recording in any facility or conveyance is permitted except that ancillary equipment such as lights, reflectors or tripods may not be used. Members of the press holding valid identification issued by the New York City Police Department are hereby authorized to use necessary ancillary equipment. All photographic activity must be conducted in accordance with the provisions of this Part." That $25 fine is probably people photographing in the tunnels or other unauthorized areas, or doing commercial photography. Honestly im not sure if this is true or not, but they still havent updated the rule book yet. Ether way cops are now going to use as a defense to give any kind of photography a ticket. This is why its not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 5, 2013 Share #7 Posted January 5, 2013 This was already being discussed on the Subway Random Thoughts Thread a few minutes ago: http://www.nyctransi...080#entry628672 things get lost in there, this is easier to tell what the topic is about rather than lump everything together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #8 Posted January 5, 2013 This contradicts with the existing rule made by the MTA that explicitly permits photography in the system. The rules written on that page are so vague that most subway riders would be fined for some violation on that page.. Furthermore, if the rules were changed in such a manner the public would have been informed by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted January 5, 2013 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2013 I'm guessing the fine for "Unauthorized photography, filming:" Which pretty much means you will get a 25 dollar fine if you were to use a for example using tripod in the subway without getting the approval for it. "Photography, filming or video recording in any facility or conveyance is permitted except that ancillary equipment such as lights, reflectors or tripods may not be used. Members of the press holding valid identification issued by the New York City Police Department are hereby authorized to use necessary ancillary equipment. All photographic activity must be conducted in accordance with the provisions of this Part." Quotations from MTA.info. So pretty much you will not be bothered by a fine for using your camera handheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted January 5, 2013 Share #10 Posted January 5, 2013 Please people, don't take things out of context... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 5, 2013 Share #11 Posted January 5, 2013 Really, don't worry. Not all these rules are the most enforced anyway. Just don't use flash... it can temporarily blind the operator and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Posted January 5, 2013 Share #12 Posted January 5, 2013 The MTA has always been ass-backward when it comes to the rules and its very own service... I'm pretty sure Rail-Fanning isn't banned in the NYC Subway Just Don't do the following: 1) Trespass 2) Act Suspicious 3) Change Roll Signs 4) Use Flash 5) Use a Tripod (Always remember though there are some cops out there wanting to harass ya' or they simply just don't know all the rules) Also like DJ Hammers said Don't take things out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #13 Posted January 5, 2013 The MTA has always been ass-backward when it comes to the rules and its very own service... I'm pretty sure Rail-Fanning isn't banned in the NYC Subway Just Don't do the following: 1) Trespass 2) Act Suspicious 3) Change Roll Signs 4) Use Flash 5) Use a Tripod (Always remember though there are some cops out there wanting to harass ya' or they simply just don't know all the rules) Also like DJ Hammers said Don't take things out of context. Agreed, but define "act suspicious", because to many people photography at a non-touristy station fits their version of that definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 5, 2013 Share #14 Posted January 5, 2013 What harm does a tripod do to anyone that an umbrella, bicycle, or anything else couldn't do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 Posted January 6, 2013 Share #15 Posted January 6, 2013 That must be unauthorized photography like taking photos of restricted areas. But still, photos are permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Posted January 6, 2013 Share #16 Posted January 6, 2013 In the MTA's eyes they mainly banned the use of a tripod in the subway because the fact that it can cause blockage to and on a busy platform I know it don't make allot of sense sorta. Defining suspicion?? Okay Lets say if you were walking up and down the platform with your hands in your pockets looking for a good spot? Or mainly in general in some shape or form Causing a cop or some idiot to think your up to something. (That's just 2 things) I remember a cop stopped me with my hands in my pockets (I wasn't filming, It was last winter and I was cold lol) anyways yea. Also Don't always look for a train on the opposite track going the opposite track , to much (say if you were filming the at Ditmas on the Manhattan Bound Track and You were constantly looking for the Coney Island Bound Train.) I find that a help when I rail-fan It don't matter where you film Touristy or not... your always gonna have the corrupt cop or rookie not know the law so yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 6, 2013 Share #17 Posted January 6, 2013 Wow, hello 1984! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 6, 2013 Share #18 Posted January 6, 2013 Wow, hello 1984! Did you even read the book? -- Yeah, agree with the above that this is probably in reference to the previous rules -- the fact that it's so vague could be an issue if some transit cop wanted to bust balls though... Idk, even if it were banned, I'd still take pictures. I take pictures in the PATH; I feel like this is the kind of tax dollar-related stuff that if you really wanted to you could beat out in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 6, 2013 Share #19 Posted January 6, 2013 Please people, don't take things out of context... Let's not go asking for miracles now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted January 6, 2013 Share #20 Posted January 6, 2013 How most fans interpret this stuff in a nuthsell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 6, 2013 Share #21 Posted January 6, 2013 In the MTA's eyes they mainly banned the use of a tripod in the subway because the fact that it can cause blockage to and on a busy platform I guess I'll mount my camera on a modded bike then. Nobody seems to pester bikers even though they have the greatest effect on passenger movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Posted January 6, 2013 Share #22 Posted January 6, 2013 I guess I'll mount my camera on a modded bike then. Nobody seems to pester bikers even though they have the greatest effect on passenger movement. Lol I get your point on that without a doubt.... Funny thing though that It's "Illegal to use a tripod in the subway" But on a walk over the Williamsburg bridge I used a tripod for some Subway shots. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted January 6, 2013 Share #23 Posted January 6, 2013 Lol I get your point on that without a doubt.... Funny thing though that It's "Illegal to use a tripod in the subway" But on a walk over the Williamsburg bridge I used a tripod for some Subway shots. lol Because that's not MTA property. You can sit on a rooftop next to an elevated, and use a tripod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted January 6, 2013 Share #24 Posted January 6, 2013 wow! the is serious with their fare evasion! they put "holding weapons" in "other violations" & fare evasion up top. they're probably saying, "carry weapons, $100 fine. but don't dare f**k with FARE EVASION!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 6, 2013 Share #25 Posted January 6, 2013 Fare evasion is directly robbing the MTA what it's due... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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