AndrewJC Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1476 Posted December 3, 2012 That leaves only the . The wouldn't need the cars, so that leaves only one place for them to go... Why wouldn't the 4 need the cars? Why are people quick to assume that the is getting the r62A's. What if the MTA thinks that the workers can manage switching the rollsigns and still be on time if they were placed on the or ? There are 42 signs that need to be changed if a 2 becomes a 5 or a 5 becomes a 2. That cannot be accomplished within a matter of minutes by a train crew of two. (It could be accomplished an extra ten or so people assigned to the platform to roll signs, but that's an unnecessary expense.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142a 4 Bronx Expres Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1477 Posted December 3, 2012 Wow, that means nothing and doesn't make sense. That's like saying that the 75 footers need to stay on fully local lines 'cause they're too "heavy" to go fast on express runs..... Lol what I'm trying to say is why would the 4 line lose its R142As if it only run a few of them compared to the 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1478 Posted December 3, 2012 Oh god, why does it seem like every month there's someone hijacking this thread and talking about R62as? Who friggin cares? It happens it happens. There's no brownie points for being right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1479 Posted December 3, 2012 Why are people quick to assume that the is getting the r62A's. Perhaps because I've heard from RTO management that this is going to happen??? Why are people so quick to assume that they WON'T be going to the ? Other than because they want to foam over the ideas of all the different rollsigns they'll get to photograph? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1480 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Perhaps because I've heard from RTO management that this is going to happen??? Why are people so quick to assume that they WON'T be going to the ? Other than because they want to foam over the ideas of all the different rollsigns they'll get to photograph? Seriously, I'll be the one to say that this is no lie. Edited December 3, 2012 by NovaCSW8030 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1481 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) There aren't enough R62As to cover the entire & fleet...... And what do you mean by that? Both lines run 32 trains respectively at rush hour but if you meant all of the available trains (not the trains used for rush hour service) at both 239th and East 180th (which you haven't said so...) then fine.... EDIT: Plus I never said there would be enough for both lines, only one of them. I know there aren't enough for both respectively....... Edited December 3, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1482 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) And since Westchester runs 400/450 R142As at rush hour, there aren't enough R62As for it either unless they reduce the amount of rush hour trains for the or mixed fleets with Jerome's equipment since there will be 50 R142As left at Westchester.............................. Edited December 3, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1483 Posted December 3, 2012 Why wouldn't the 4 need the cars? ...because it has a full fleet of R142's and R142A's. They can still take out those strip maps on its R142s and R142As if needed... ...but it's not. EDIT: Plus I never said there would be enough for both lines, only one of them. I know there aren't enough for both respectively....... Dude, that's a T/O, I think he knows what he's talking about... Plus, what about the rollsigns? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1484 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) ...because it has a full fleet of R142's and R142A's. That's like saying that the R68s can't go to the because it already has a full fleet of R46s..... ...but it's not. Is there something you want to admit.....? Dude, that's a T/O, I think he knows what he's talking about... I am only saying that the has 352 R62As for rush hour service. There are enough of those for rush hour or service but not for the entire 239th or East 180th yards... Plus, what about the rollsigns? Well as far as I know IMO, signage issues will occur because........ 1. The shares trackage with the in both of its ends (White Plains Road and Nostrand Avenue lines), plus with flexibility at Flatbush Avenue where it runs through most of the rush hour and midday periods, also to Nereid Avenue in the reverse direction at rush hour, very limit runs to and from Utica or New Lots Avenues. Very limit 's also go to and from New Lots. 2. The regular from Pelham Bay Park becomes a Parkchester train at the PM rush hour which requires changing the signs when turning at Brooklyn Bridge and going through the City Hall loop. *Only referring to the Parkchester service not the express to Pelham Bay Park* When the PM rush hour is over, signs are needed to say Pelham Bay Park but from what I notice many times before, most of the 's still go to either Parkchester or Pelham Bay Park for other reasons others know that I don't even know... Edited December 3, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1485 Posted December 3, 2012 That's like saying that the R68s can't go to the because it already has a full fleet of R46s..... Is there something you want to admit.....? I am only saying that the has 352 R62As for rush hour service. There are enough of those for rush hour or service but not for the entire 239th or East 180th yards... Well as far as I know IMO, signage issues will occur because........ 1. The shares trackage with the in both of its ends (White Plains Road and Nostrand Avenue lines), plus with flexibility at Flatbush Avenue where it runs through most of the rush hour and midday periods, also to Nereid Avenue in the reverse direction at rush hour, very limit runs to and from Utica or New Lots Avenues. Very limit 's also go to and from New Lots. 2. The regular from Pelham Bay Park becomes a Parkchester train at the PM rush hour which requires changing the signs when turning at Brooklyn Bridge and going through the City Hall loop. *Only referring to the Parkchester service not the express to Pelham Bay Park* When the PM rush hour is over, signs are needed to say Pelham Bay Park but from what I notice many times before, most of the 's still go to either Parkchester or Pelham Bay Park for other reasons others know that I don't even know... The issue isn't that bad, the and will not get them. I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but there'd be barely enough cars, if there are enough for the and . That's a perfectly good argument. Why make an unnecessary fleet change that won't benefit anyone??? Where would those cars even go after that? Think.... Admitting what? I was saying that all of these crazy predictions are unnecessary in the current time. And they won't ever be necessary. Thinking is imperative... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1486 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) ugh, the will still have R142A's regardless if they get the R62A's, it will be just like the old days, just the R142A's will be in place of the R29's and R36's (basicly the same amount like when the redbirds were on the ) Edited December 3, 2012 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1487 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) The issue isn't that bad, the and will not get them. I don't know where you're getting your figures from, but there'd be barely enough cars, if there are enough for the and . That's a perfectly good argument. Why make an unnecessary fleet change that won't benefit anyone??? Where would those cars even go after that? Think.... Admitting what? I was saying that all of these crazy predictions are unnecessary in the current time. And they won't ever be necessary. Thinking is imperative... You're acting very typical again aren't ya? I never said that the and will get them. And go look at the assignment sheet from JoeKorner. And I was answer your damn question little kid, why to ask? I answered your post. Any directed posts are the ones that I'll quote on regardless if you say otherwise afterwards that also goes to every other member. So your little behind should calm the hell down. I had just quoted. I can see how typical and hypocritical you starting to be like before...Keep it up.... Edited December 3, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1488 Posted December 3, 2012 People just don't f**king read sometimes. I said the damn cars are enough for rush hour service on those lines, yes I know there aren't enough for that but I also never said they were going to go there. So don't be stupid Threxx, you know I was clear enough on the answer I gave ya. I did said that they aren't enough of them for the entire 239th/East 180th yards right? Okay then, so YOU should think before YOU post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1489 Posted December 3, 2012 Who cares! It's not that serious. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1490 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) You're acting very typical again aren't ya? I never said that the and will get them. And go look at the assignment sheet from JoeKorner. Ignoring the unnecessary rage... it's a subway car for Christ's sake... not a kidney. Lets see... At morning rush, the and each use 330. the Has 352 cars. Not enough, especially with the sharing. The rollsign changing will delay trains. It's unrealistic. People just don't f**king read sometimes. I said the damn cars are enough for rush hour service on those lines, yes I know there aren't enough for that but I also never said they were going to go there. So don't be stupid Threxx, you know I was clear enough on the answer I gave ya. I did said that they aren't enough of them for the entire 239th/East 180th yards right? Okay then, so YOU should think before YOU post. Solve the rollsign issue. The rage, the brining up of past issues, all unnecessary. It's not a kidney, or a heart transplant. It's a subway car. Let's bring back the wise advice of 6 Lexington Avenue: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! Let's just wait and see and focus on the delivery process now. It's been discussed beyond death!! Edited December 3, 2012 by Threxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1491 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Who cares! It's not that serious. And where the hell did you came from? Mind your damn business, Threxx started it..... @Threxx I know its a damn subway car you typical smartass, I was answering to your damn post. You ranged at me you idiot. And I ain't gonna waste my time with you...Moving to another thread... Some of you damn users really are typical.... Edited December 3, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1492 Posted December 3, 2012 And where the hell did you came from? Mind your damn business, Threxx started it..... @Threxx I know its a damn subway car you typical smartass, I was answering to your damn post. You ranged at me you idiot. And I ain't gonna waste my time with you...Moving to another thread... When? I simply said "Thinking is imperative." It wasn't directed at you or anyone... I'd beg to differ on that point, but I'm done... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1493 Posted December 3, 2012 Threxx and ttcsubwayfan, make sure to not bullshit at anyone who are against having the R62As back at the IRT mainline. Just re-read of what I was trying to say. I never said that they need to change rollsigns, yes I know they will cause delays...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1494 Posted December 3, 2012 Threxx and ttcsubwayfan, make sure to not bullshit at anyone who are against having the R62As back at the IRT mainline. Just re-read of what I was trying to say. I never said that they need to change rollsigns, yes I know they will cause delays...... By restricting the and fleets to their respective lines, that will increase delays on both lines. It's going to happen, one way or another, so those critics need to get over it. Simple as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1495 Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Hmmmm...... Boy, I wonder how long this will take before someone else (out of nowhere) makes a peace speech? I'm just saying, it's a thinker..... Edited December 3, 2012 by NovaCSW8030 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1496 Posted December 3, 2012 The 2/5 will NOT get the 62As. The NTTs are too valuable, not because some foamers like the automated announcements but because of the flexibility at Flatbush. The 4/6 dont need that flexibility. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1497 Posted December 3, 2012 sigh........................................................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1498 Posted December 3, 2012 Hmmmm...... Boy, I wonder how long this will it take before someone else (out of nowhere) makes a peace speech? I'm just saying, it's a thinker..... Yes... peace... it's becoming obvious that the discussion about the R188 should be halted until further news is found out about the cars... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1499 Posted December 3, 2012 Knock it off children i.e Threxx and Rollovemyhead. Keep it up and you both will be quiet for a long time. Now back to R188 discussion in a mature manner. Thank You. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 3, 2012 Share #1500 Posted December 3, 2012 Knock it off children i.e Threxx and Rollovemyhead. Keep it up and you both will be quiet for a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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