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He's got a point though, you gotta admit that.unless you want half of the train either being dragged or pushed like an Alstom/Adtranz combo.

 

Point or no point, I'd wait for credible evidence to support a claim. One can still argue at this point that there is no point to manufacture decade old propulsion systems to decade old specifications.

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So 7899 is the first single car im guessing...

 

 

I think it will be car #11. I've seen the set as follows: 7811-7812-7813-7899-7814-7815. But they'll move it again anyways.....

 

To my understanding, I believe that the last 35 cars might be singles, but if anybody can correct me on this, I welcome it. ^_^

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1996-2000 is being linked up, it is currently running around togther in a 5-car set but still singles (not linked). They should be linked all the way down to 1971 or so, since all those cars are not SMSed.

 

Those new 5-car sets will probably get full cabs the second they get to the mainline, its a very easy process to turn them into full cabs. If you noticed, there are hinges on the wall with the window adjacent to the half cab. This is how they made full cabs back then, they removed the seats adjacent to the half cab, pulled the wall out into the full cab position, bolted it in place, and pulled the cab door into full cab position. Its not like you have to add any parts or anything, the hardest part is probably removing the seats.

 

And if you wonder why they have that thing on the wall covering the window on 1651-1666 where there used to be a full cab and now is a half cab, thats to cover up the space between the window and the wall. (Apparently they wanted to do it the cheap way by just putting a metal board over it...)

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And if you wonder why they have that thing on the wall covering the window on 1651-1666 where there used to be a full cab and now is a half cab, thats to cover up the space between the window and the wall. (Apparently they wanted to do it the cheap way by just putting a metal board over it...)

 

 

They didn't return the seats?

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They didn't return the seats?

 

 

They did, with some new ones.

 

The reason they are not getting full cabs now is because they don't need them. Only the South End needs them for the C/R position. The reason for for 1651-1666 getting single cabbed again was so they could fit a few more passengers in that space since those sets were supposed to go on the North End. They will go back to full cabs along with the borrowed Broadway Cars going back to the (1) once the R62A SMS is over.

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Thanks for the update 4p. I am glad they are finally arranging more of those singles into consecutive 5 car units. Obviously they can't link too many more singles since the (7) still needs them for 11 car trains and the GCT (S) still needs single cars.

 

 

The GCT (S) has its own dedicated fleet of 20 singles based out of Livonia

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I don't quite recall how many singles exist (too lazy to check) but the (7) only needs around 50 (38 being in service at any given time) of them to run 11 car train service.

 

 

Originally 255 (1901-2155)...1909 was scrapped, 20 are for the (S) and with these conversions appearing now, its a whole lot less than that now

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Point or no point, I'd wait for credible evidence to support a claim. One can still argue at this point that there is no point to manufacture decade old propulsion systems to decade old specifications.

 

All I can say is I used to work very closely on R188.

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All I can say is I used to work very closely on R188.

 

"Used to" - Key phrase. Things may or may not have changed quite a bit since you ceased active involvement with the project. So once again, time will tell how things pan out. As much as resurrecting old Adtranz/Bombardier would make my day (my fav propulsion in terms of sound), it just seems more sustainable to manufacture propulsion that the MTA has more of. However, on the same token, the advantage of maintaining the same propulsion across the R188 fleet is also evident.

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*R-188 UPDATE*

 

Preliminary Consist

 

7811-7815, 7816-7821, 7822-7826, 7827-7832, 7833-7837, 7838-7843, 7844-7848, 7849-7854, 7855-7859, 7860-7865, 7866-7870, 7871-7876, 7877-7881, 7882-7887, 7888-7892, 7893-7898, 7899-7903, 7904-7909, 7910-7914, 7915-7920, 7921-7925, 7926-7931, 7932-7936

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*R-188 UPDATE*

 

Preliminary Consist

 

7811-7815, 7816-7821, 7822-7826, 7827-7832, 7833-7837, 7838-7843, 7844-7848, 7849-7854, 7855-7859, 7860-7865, 7866-7870, 7871-7876, 7877-7881, 7882-7887, 7888-7892, 7893-7898, 7899-7903, 7904-7909, 7910-7914, 7915-7920, 7921-7925, 7926-7931, 7932-7936

 

 

Some of those don't seem right...

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Why is everyone assuming that the r62A's are going on the Lexington Avenue line and/or/maybe the 7th avenue line. What if the MTA decides to do something else with them. Who knows

 

 

They might decide to do something else, it is the (MTA). So far, all of the sources and information provided have suggested that the (6) will get R62A's. The reason being that the (6) is completely R142A, and those cars are being converted and sent to the (7).

 

Some of those don't seem right...

 

 

Some of the numbers might be off, but then the fleet will be 11 cars so it might not use the traditional A division standard of numbering.

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