LTA1992 Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1426 Posted November 22, 2012 He's got a point though, you gotta admit that.unless you want half of the train either being dragged or pushed like an Alstom/Adtranz combo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1427 Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Looks like 7811-7815, 7831-7840 & 7899 are almost ready. If this wasn't mentioned before and if missing any more, you can add to this. Edited November 22, 2012 by NovaCSW8030 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1428 Posted November 22, 2012 He's got a point though, you gotta admit that.unless you want half of the train either being dragged or pushed like an Alstom/Adtranz combo. Point or no point, I'd wait for credible evidence to support a claim. One can still argue at this point that there is no point to manufacture decade old propulsion systems to decade old specifications. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1429 Posted November 22, 2012 Looks like 7811-7815, 7831-7840 & 7899 are almost ready. If this wasn't mentioned before and if missing any more, you can add to this. So 7899 is the first single car im guessing... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1430 Posted November 22, 2012 So 7899 is the first single car im guessing... I think it will be car #11. I've seen the set as follows: 7811-7812-7813-7899-7814-7815. But they'll move it again anyways..... To my understanding, I believe that the last 35 cars might be singles, but if anybody can correct me on this, I welcome it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1431 Posted November 22, 2012 1996-2000 is being linked up, it is currently running around togther in a 5-car set but still singles (not linked). They should be linked all the way down to 1971 or so, since all those cars are not SMSed. Those new 5-car sets will probably get full cabs the second they get to the mainline, its a very easy process to turn them into full cabs. If you noticed, there are hinges on the wall with the window adjacent to the half cab. This is how they made full cabs back then, they removed the seats adjacent to the half cab, pulled the wall out into the full cab position, bolted it in place, and pulled the cab door into full cab position. Its not like you have to add any parts or anything, the hardest part is probably removing the seats. And if you wonder why they have that thing on the wall covering the window on 1651-1666 where there used to be a full cab and now is a half cab, thats to cover up the space between the window and the wall. (Apparently they wanted to do it the cheap way by just putting a metal board over it...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1432 Posted November 22, 2012 And if you wonder why they have that thing on the wall covering the window on 1651-1666 where there used to be a full cab and now is a half cab, thats to cover up the space between the window and the wall. (Apparently they wanted to do it the cheap way by just putting a metal board over it...) They didn't return the seats? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 22, 2012 Share #1433 Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the update 4p. I am glad they are finally arranging more of those singles into consecutive 5 car units. Obviously they can't link too many more singles since the still needs them for 11 car trains and the GCT still needs single cars. Edited November 22, 2012 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1434 Posted November 23, 2012 They didn't return the seats? They did, with some new ones. The reason they are not getting full cabs now is because they don't need them. Only the South End needs them for the C/R position. The reason for for 1651-1666 getting single cabbed again was so they could fit a few more passengers in that space since those sets were supposed to go on the North End. They will go back to full cabs along with the borrowed Broadway Cars going back to the once the R62A SMS is over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 23, 2012 Share #1435 Posted November 23, 2012 Thanks for the update 4p. I am glad they are finally arranging more of those singles into consecutive 5 car units. Obviously they can't link too many more singles since the still needs them for 11 car trains and the GCT still needs single cars. The GCT has its own dedicated fleet of 20 singles based out of Livonia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1436 Posted November 25, 2012 I don't quite recall how many singles exist (too lazy to check) but the only needs around 50 (38 being in service at any given time) of them to run 11 car train service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1437 Posted November 25, 2012 I don't quite recall how many singles exist (too lazy to check) but the only needs around 50 (38 being in service at any given time) of them to run 11 car train service. Originally 255 (1901-2155)...1909 was scrapped, 20 are for the and with these conversions appearing now, its a whole lot less than that now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted November 25, 2012 Share #1438 Posted November 25, 2012 And thats all changing the lowest 5 car set to be linked will be 1966-1970. 1901-1908, 1910-1925 are going to the shuttle. 1926-1956 are going to the 7. those will stay single. Of course as you know by now subject to change etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeayo Posted November 26, 2012 Share #1439 Posted November 26, 2012 Point or no point, I'd wait for credible evidence to support a claim. One can still argue at this point that there is no point to manufacture decade old propulsion systems to decade old specifications. All I can say is I used to work very closely on R188. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1440 Posted November 27, 2012 All I can say is I used to work very closely on R188. "Used to" - Key phrase. Things may or may not have changed quite a bit since you ceased active involvement with the project. So once again, time will tell how things pan out. As much as resurrecting old Adtranz/Bombardier would make my day (my fav propulsion in terms of sound), it just seems more sustainable to manufacture propulsion that the MTA has more of. However, on the same token, the advantage of maintaining the same propulsion across the R188 fleet is also evident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 27, 2012 Share #1441 Posted November 27, 2012 But MITRAC may be the closest they can get so maybe it'll be in the brand new cars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted November 29, 2012 Share #1442 Posted November 29, 2012 According to Trevor Logan/vintage soul, R188s are being delivered now, with 7812 as one example... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exseed Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1443 Posted November 30, 2012 I actually just saw a couple being transported eastward on Gun Hill Rd! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1444 Posted November 30, 2012 I actually just saw a couple being transported eastward on Gun Hill Rd! Gun Hill and what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1445 Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) *R-188 UPDATE* Preliminary Consist 7811-7815, 7816-7821, 7822-7826, 7827-7832, 7833-7837, 7838-7843, 7844-7848, 7849-7854, 7855-7859, 7860-7865, 7866-7870, 7871-7876, 7877-7881, 7882-7887, 7888-7892, 7893-7898, 7899-7903, 7904-7909, 7910-7914, 7915-7920, 7921-7925, 7926-7931, 7932-7936 Edited November 30, 2012 by NovaCSW8030 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subwayfan12 Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1446 Posted November 30, 2012 Why is everyone assuming that the r62A's are going on the Lexington Avenue line and/or/maybe the 7th avenue line. What if the MTA decides to do something else with them. Who knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1447 Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Uh, because the R188s, which is mostly converted R142As, are going to be taken from the and something has to go back there or you'll have a train shortage.... Edited November 30, 2012 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1448 Posted November 30, 2012 According to Trevor Logan/vintage soul, R188s are being delivered now, with 7812 as one example... Well, we did know for a good while that the first train should be here by around next month. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1449 Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) *R-188 UPDATE* Preliminary Consist 7811-7815, 7816-7821, 7822-7826, 7827-7832, 7833-7837, 7838-7843, 7844-7848, 7849-7854, 7855-7859, 7860-7865, 7866-7870, 7871-7876, 7877-7881, 7882-7887, 7888-7892, 7893-7898, 7899-7903, 7904-7909, 7910-7914, 7915-7920, 7921-7925, 7926-7931, 7932-7936 Some of those don't seem right... Edited November 30, 2012 by mtattrain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted November 30, 2012 Share #1450 Posted November 30, 2012 Why is everyone assuming that the r62A's are going on the Lexington Avenue line and/or/maybe the 7th avenue line. What if the MTA decides to do something else with them. Who knows They might decide to do something else, it is the . So far, all of the sources and information provided have suggested that the will get R62A's. The reason being that the is completely R142A, and those cars are being converted and sent to the . Some of those don't seem right... Some of the numbers might be off, but then the fleet will be 11 cars so it might not use the traditional A division standard of numbering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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