realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #51 Posted May 2, 2014 Guys! Not the perfect time for foam but the is borrowing from either the or ! (Meaning R160) Link: http://youtu.be/4_xQBhrm4QQ I also heard (according to PIX 11) that the T/O was arrested for manslaughter for 15 Years because he was drunk You mean Robert Ray from the 1991 Union Square wreck? Yes that is true. He was intoxicated, and moving a R62A consist on the erratically. He finally jumped the tracks going over 40 MPH in a 18 MPH zone in the 14th Street Area on the Lexington Ave Line. BTW thanks for posting the video. Updated Daily News article (As of 5:06 PM) can be found here: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/straphangers-stranded-train-derails-queens-subway-station-article-1.1776881 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #52 Posted May 2, 2014 You mean Robert Ray from the 1991 Union Square wreck? Yes that is true. He was intoxicated, and moving a R62A consist on the erratically. He finally jumped the tracks going over 40 MPH in a 18 MPH zone in the 14th Street Area on the Lexington Ave Line. BTW thanks for posting the video. Yeah! It was excessive foaming tho! They are rerouted 's. And I know. I meant the T/O got arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted May 2, 2014 Share #53 Posted May 2, 2014 are you sure you not confused with Ray on the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #54 Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah! It was excessive foaming tho! They are rerouted 's. And I know. I meant the T/O got arrested. No that should be Robert Ray. Remember no one was killed in this derailment so manslaughter charges will not apply. Also as transit worker Andrew mentioned, if the T/O was speeding, he will be demoted or possibly fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted May 2, 2014 Share #55 Posted May 2, 2014 I never thought of it that way. Thanks for bringing out this vital point. If this is not due to broken rails, the train could have been going too fast in the 30 MPH zone. *Now I am reading that service has resumed but only until 10 PM tonight where they will shut down the IND QBL again according to Ben Kabek fro Second Ave Sagas: Why don't they run trains between Jamaica and Forest Hills? Also, would a local shuttle bus via Queens Blvd between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills + a express shuttle between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills via I-495 work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted May 2, 2014 Share #56 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm just glad there were no major injuries and everyone made it out of the train safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #57 Posted May 2, 2014 Why don't they run trains between Jamaica and Forest Hills? Also, would a local shuttle bus via Queens Blvd between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills + a express shuttle between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills via I-495 work? I'm not clear on this but they may have to inspect the entire length of the line in Queens as the investigation begins. That may be a possible reason for the overnight shutdown. Also from the Daily News link, their photos from their team of journalists shows the beamwork literally was warped creating a safety hazard, something not revealed on the MTA Flickr site and their photos of the wreck. This is a no joke accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #58 Posted May 2, 2014 I'm not clear on this but they may have to inspect the entire length of the line in Queens as the investigation begins. That may be a possible reason for the overnight shutdown. Also from the Daily News link, it shows the beamwork literally was warped creating a safety hazard. This is a no joke accident. There might be rerouted ! To Chambers St is my guess. This is affecting the severely. First, the Montague Tube due to Sandy. Now, the derailment. This R46 might be scrapped or repair. My guess is scrapped because the R46 is already more than a decade old even though they are a good quality for & we might see an R160 on the or maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #59 Posted May 2, 2014 There might be rerouted ! To Chambers St is my guess. This is affecting the severely. First, the Montague Tube due to Sandy. Now, the derailment. This R46 might be scrapped or repair. My guess is scrapped because the R46 is already more than a decade old even though they are a good quality for Well as far as I know the is terminating at Essex Street and not running via 6th Avenue or Nassau Street at all. Status can be found here: http://www.mta.info/status/subway/BDFM/23317750 Also the shutdown of the QBL is only for one night. So we may see service to Forest Hills restored by Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #60 Posted May 2, 2014 Well as far as I know the is terminating at Essex Street and not running via 6th Avenue or Nassau Street at all. Status can be found here: http://www.mta.info/status/subway/BDFM/23317750 Also the shutdown of the QBL is only for one night. So we may see service to Forest Hills restored by Monday. The QBL line is closed for this weekend for sure. The should run to Bay Pkwy just for the weekend and Monday for customers headed to Brooklyn due to no in Queens and Brooklyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #61 Posted May 2, 2014 The QBL line is closed for this weekend for sure. The should run to Bay Pkwy just for the weekend and Monday for customers headed to Brooklyn due to no in Queens and Brooklyn. Operations will resume on Saturday @ 7AM. http://secondavenuesagas.com/2014/05/02/local-e-f-train-service-restored-in-queens-but-only-until-10-p-m/ As for the article citing that the is running to Chambers I am not clear on that as the MTA site says it is terminating at Essex so the two sources conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #62 Posted May 2, 2014 ends at 168 St http://youtu.be/sp18fC0bKDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 2, 2014 Share #63 Posted May 2, 2014 The QBL line is closed for this weekend for sure. The should run to Bay Pkwy just for the weekend and Monday for customers headed to Brooklyn due to no in Queens and Brooklyn. Two questions: How? And why? Remember, Montague is shut down, so no trains can run from Broadway or Nassau St to Downtown Brooklyn until further notice. And what would be the point even if the M could run down there? The trains still won't get to where they're supposed to be, which is Queens Boulevard. Operations will resume on Saturday @ 7AM. http://secondavenuesagas.com/2014/05/02/local-e-f-train-service-restored-in-queens-but-only-until-10-p-m/ As for the article citing that the is running to Chambers I am not clear on that as the MTA site says it is terminating at Essex so the two sources conflict. Usually when the MTA posts there is no service between Essex St and Queens Blvd, trains from Metropolitan Av are turned at Chambers St so they don't delay the J trains behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted May 2, 2014 Share #64 Posted May 2, 2014 The would run from 57 St/7Av to 95 St on early morning tommorow until Queens Blvd is resumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 2, 2014 Share #65 Posted May 2, 2014 While this should be no surprise, work on the J-line has been cancelled for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #66 Posted May 2, 2014 The is running to 179 St!! The terminal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted May 2, 2014 Share #67 Posted May 2, 2014 It definitely makes more sense for the to terminate at Chambers, considering that Chambers has the two middle tracks dedicated to turning trains, while the could continue to run to/from Broad St via the two outer tracks. The LIRR and can cover for the , but what will be covering for the to 179 tonight? Also, I sure hope that the depots in the city have enough arctics (or even buses in general) to cover shuttle buses. The buses are going to be packed beyond hell tonight. Perhaps College Point brings in a few MCIs to help out with the crowds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 2, 2014 Share #68 Posted May 2, 2014 The LIRR and can cover for the , but what will be covering for the to 179 tonight? Also, I sure hope that the depots in the city have enough arctics (or even buses in general) to cover shuttle buses. The buses are going to be packed beyond hell tonight. Perhaps College Point brings in a few MCIs to help out with the crowds as well. The itself! Read my quote above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted May 2, 2014 Share #69 Posted May 2, 2014 The would run from 57 St/7Av to 95 St on early morning tommorow until Queens Blvd is resumed. Even after tommorrow I don't believe that is going to be restored, there will be too many trains. Also on one news source the MTA states that those tracks we're replaced 20-30 yrs ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted May 2, 2014 Share #70 Posted May 2, 2014 It definitely makes more sense for the to terminate at Chambers, considering that Chambers has the two middle tracks dedicated to turning trains, while the could continue to run to/from Broad St via the two outer tracks. The LIRR and can cover for the , but what will be covering for the to 179 tonight? Also, I sure hope that the depots in the city have enough arctics (or even buses in general) to cover shuttle buses. The buses are going to be packed beyond hell tonight. Perhaps College Point brings in a few MCIs to help out with the crowds as well. CP ain't doing anything to help...I just got off the QM1, and the CP routes that go across Queens Blvs are an absolute mess. There were no extra buses, and everyone was pissed as hell. The lines for the 1/5/6 were a block deep, buses were full and skipping stops all over the place. What a mess. They had hours to get extra buses in place, but didn't do anything. They need better coordination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted May 2, 2014 Share #71 Posted May 2, 2014 CP ain't doing anything to help...I just got off the QM1, and the CP routes that go across Queens Blvs are an absolute mess. There were no extra buses, and everyone was pissed as hell. The lines for the 1/5/6 were a block deep, buses were full and skipping stops all over the place. What a mess. They had hours to get extra buses in place, but didn't do anything. They need better coordination The is not going to provide extra express bus service... Do they seriously think that everyone wants to schlepp on the local bus? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted May 2, 2014 Share #72 Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I remember when the were basically suspended for hours on Lexington during the RUSH and Tuskugee Airmen depot didn't do shit to add more buses on the M101, M102 and M103. There were literally shouting matches between pissed subway riders and the bus driver on my M101 LTD. Every depot in the city should get involved with the shuttle buses on Queens blvd. It is probably an absolutely mess out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted May 2, 2014 Share #73 Posted May 2, 2014 Including some amatuer videos of the immediate aftermath of the derailment: In this report TA head Tom Pendergrast mentions that a full inspection as part of the ongoing investigation of the accident (1:03 mark) will take place. The media agency edited out his complete response so it can be assumed this is why the line will be shut down completely from end to end after 10PM tonight. The entire stretch of the IND Queens Blvd lines tracks and signals will be thoroughly inspected as the investigation continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted May 3, 2014 Share #74 Posted May 3, 2014 Including some amatuer videos of the immediate aftermath of the derailment: In this report TA head Tom Pendergrast mentions that a full inspection as part of the ongoing investigation of the accident (1:03 mark) will take place. The media agency edited out his complete response so it can be assumed this is why the line will be shut down completely from end to end after 10PM tonight. The entire stretch of the IND Queens Blvd lines tracks and signals will be thoroughly inspected as the investigation continues. Very Good! The btw is running to Chambers St. Mr. Rail fans Vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted May 3, 2014 Share #75 Posted May 3, 2014 I missed that particular train by about 15 minutes. I was forced to go via the 7 train to get to Manhattan since I didn't know about the cross honoring. I avoided the Q60, I already knew that was gonna be crushed. Going back to Jamaica, I simply took the to the . The ran perfectly and wasn't anymore crowded than it was on a regular day. Heard the shuttles, the Q60, the , all of it was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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