Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share #51 Posted July 2, 2014 The union is not breaking balls. They will sign today the PEB decision . Its the MTA stomping their feet and acting like a 5 year old because bith boards find their story a bunch of bs in crying broke . Both boards gave a recommendation that the MTA can afford without raising fares . Their financial state is so good JR cut the toll on the Vezz bridge in half with the MTA stating we don't need that 40 million. Tell me who is bsing who. They want us to sell out the unborn to higher medical and longer progression rate to start a divide between new and current workers. Thats what they do divide and conquer. As a former Staten Islander, the toll discounts on the Verrazano bridge were a necessity. The tolls that people pay to use the Verrazano are some of the highest if not the highest in the country and it has caused a ton of economic burden for the residents, but especially for the local businesses, and has also put job opportunities into question. Those higher tolls mean higher prices at the supermarkets as places like Shop Rite simply passed on the costs to us and even though Staten Island is the richest borough out of the five boroughs (including Manhattan) in terms of household income, that doesn't that its residents should be ripped off with higher than normal tolls. No other borough pays exorbitant fees to get from one borough to another aside from Staten Island, and what's worse is that the money collected from the Verrazano is generally used for every other purpose but to improve transit conditions on Staten Island. The Verrazano is a cash cow for the likes of the LIRR for sure. Cuomo gets the importance of keeping tolls and taxes reasonable as they are an economical deterrent. Just because some board gave a recommendation that the currently has funds doesn't mean that they will have the funds in the future, and with the way that the pensions and healthcare costs are crippling not just the but the city overall, I have a hard time understanding why the unions can't do the math to see that all of this money that they think the will have simply doesn't exist. If pensions and healthcare costs continue to rise faster than the rate of inflation, tell me where the is going to get the money from? I would like you to explain that to us rather than telling us what the PEB stated. This is just simple math, and it doesn't add up. If you read the PEBs' recommendations, they clearly state that they can do so without raising fares by simply issuing more debt and stealing money from the Capital Program. Both of these are terrible ideas, mostly because debt service is already a huge portion of the MTA budget (and will continue to rise if the State and City barely fund the next Capital Program as usual), and because the Capital Program is both necessary, and probably can't be stolen from legally (since a good portion of it is federal funding, and USDOT has been very clear about what its money can be spent on) A good portion of the MTA Board thought that cutting the SI resident VZ toll was a terrible idea (because it was). The only reason Prendergast probably agreed to it was because Cuomo would probably have fired him if he didn't (our Governor is no stranger to weird financial shenanigans in the name of "good government"). Of course they did... The only Board member who lives on Staten Island is Allen Cappelli. The rest of them live in Westchester, Long Island, Riverdale and the like, so they wouldn't care that Staten Islanders and others pay ridiculously high fees to cross the Verrazano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 11, 2014 Share #52 Posted July 11, 2014 Lol at peak direction only shuttle bus service: http://web.mta.info/LIRRStrikePlan/LIRRStrike/LimitedShuttleBusService.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 11, 2014 Share #53 Posted July 11, 2014 Lol at peak direction only shuttle bus service: http://web.mta.info/LIRRStrikePlan/LIRRStrike/LimitedShuttleBusService.htm I'm currently writting letter MTA LIRR need to expand shuttle bus in hard area of Suffolk County, where only 10 buses run on Sunday, and well as Oyster Bay Stations into Glen Cove NICE Bus transfer point, so riders could take shuttle bus to n21 into Flushing, to get to Manhattan. Newsday article from yesterday, there were some towns want MTA LIRR to expand shuttle bus along Ronkonhoma Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 11, 2014 Share #54 Posted July 11, 2014 I'm currently writting letter MTA LIRR need to expand shuttle bus in hard area of Suffolk County, where only 10 buses run on Sunday, and well as Oyster Bay Stations into Glen Cove NICE Bus transfer point, so riders could take shuttle bus to n21 into Flushing, to get to Manhattan. Newsday article from yesterday, there were some towns want MTA LIRR to expand shuttle bus along Ronkonhoma Branch. The MTA's website already lists the n20/n21 as an alternative to the LIRR if the strike were to happen. They seriously expect LIRR riders to use the buses in Nassau to get to the nearest hub like Flushing or Jamaica, then transfer for a train to Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted July 11, 2014 Share #55 Posted July 11, 2014 I'm currently writting letter MTA LIRR need to expand shuttle bus in hard area of Suffolk County, where only 10 buses run on Sunday, and well as Oyster Bay Stations into Glen Cove NICE Bus transfer point, so riders could take shuttle bus to n21 into Flushing, to get to Manhattan. Newsday article from yesterday, there were some towns want MTA LIRR to expand shuttle bus along Ronkonhoma Branch. There are barely enough buses for the MTA to run the shuttle service as it is. It would take quite a lot of equipment and overtime to make preparations, particularly since TWU is not interested in helping union-bust the LIRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 12, 2014 Share #56 Posted July 12, 2014 There are barely enough buses for the MTA to run the shuttle service as it is. It would take quite a lot of equipment and overtime to make preparations, particularly since TWU is not interested in helping union-bust the LIRR. Much of it will be private (probably school) buses. From what I've been told the MTA will maximize its own resources at NYCT & MTA Bus and contract the rest of the runs out. Getting 300+ MTA buses together in rush hour is obviously very tough and I'm not sure about the exact amount of buses the MTA won't have to contract out, and like you said you have to worry about the TWU or ATU having a problem with running the replacement buses during a union strike. Most of those school buses are under TWU/ATU as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted July 12, 2014 Share #57 Posted July 12, 2014 The MTA's website already lists the n20/n21 as an alternative to the LIRR if the strike were to happen. They seriously expect LIRR riders to use the buses in Nassau to get to the nearest hub like Flushing or Jamaica, then transfer for a train to Manhattan. It's either that or sit in highway traffic all day with no place to park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 12, 2014 Share #58 Posted July 12, 2014 http://web.mta.info/LIRRStrikePlan/PossibleLongIslandRailRoadStrike.html Subway Travel Option Subway TipsThe subway transfer points listed below can feed lines which can absorb additional riders. Certain lines are already crowded and may not be able to accommodate all additional riders. Plan your trip with the MTA's New York City Transit makes the following recommendations: At high volume stations, crowd control measures by the Police may be in force to prevent overcrowding on platforms and on trains. Customers can expect lines and extra waiting times at these stations. Customers are encouraged, if possible, to use subway lines other than the and which are heavily utilized. Lower Manhattan: take the and lines Midtown Manhattan: take the and lines Purchase and/or reload MetroCards in advance to avoid long lines.$5 and $25 cards are sold at all LIRR ticket offices. A list of additional MetroCard vendors is available on the MTA website. (Remember, a $1 fee will be charged for the purchase of a new MetroCard) Please expect longer travel times. Consider leaving earlier or later to avoid peak rush hour crowds. I don't think LIRR Passengers will follow their tips since will be faster if they came by n4/n22/n24 bus. 1 Car Travel Option: Ride Sharing/Carpooling Traveling into Manhattan by car will be virtually impossible, with massive traffic jams expected. We recommend that drivers carpool and drive to park and ride subway locations. The MTA and New York State Department of Transportation have prepared a network of designated carpool park & ride lots, including at various state parks and LIRR rail stations. It is anticipated that HOV lane access will require three or more passengers in a vehicle. Ask neighbors to share a ride with you, or connect with others willing to carpool using the 511NYRideshare website. Carpool Parking/Staging Areas Valley Stream State Park: 652 spaces and 352 spaces for Carpools Only.Hempstead Lake State Park 792 spaces and 398 spaces for Carpools Only.Bethpage State Park 1100 spaces and 550 spaces for Carpools Only.Farmingdale State College 1000 spaces and Carpools only.Belmont Lake State Park 1320 spaces and 656 spaces for Carpools OnlySunken Meadow State Park 7000 spaces and 3000 spaces for Carpools OnlyHeckscher State Park 5000 spaces and 2500 spaces for Carpools Only Bus Travel Option Limited Shuttle Bus http://web.mta.info/LIRRStrikePlan/LIRRStrike/LimitedShuttleBusService.htm The MTA will provide very limited shuttle bus service that will operate from designated locations in Nassau and Suffolk counties starting within24–48 hours of any declared strike. Buses will connect you with New York City Transit subway hubs in Queens. This weekday, rush-hour, peak direction only shuttle service will be extremely limited. There will be no weekend, off-peak or reverse commute service.Only a small fraction of regular weekday rush hour customers can be accommodated, so crowding is inevitable and you should anticipate long commute times.Fare: You must present a valid Long Island Rail Road ticket to board a shuttle bus. A valid MetroCard will be required to enter the subway. Please purchase a MetroCard beforehand to avoid long lines and additional delays. MetroCards are available at all LIRR stations, and at subway stations.Shuttle Bus Locations and Connecting Subway Service Shuttles to Howard Beach subway stationNassau Community College1 Education DriveGarden City, NY 11530 Freeport LIRR StationSunrise Highway (Route 27)between Henry Street and Benson PlaceNorth side of Sunrise Highway Bellmore LIRR StationSunrise Highway (Route 27) and Bedford AvenueNorth side of Sunrise Highwaybetween Newbridge Road and Bellmore Avenue Seaford LIRR StationSunrise Highway (Route 27)North side of Sunrise Highway and Jackson AvenueShuttles to Citi Field; Mets-Willets Point subway stationManhasset StationPlandome Road and Maple Place, off Park Avenue.Five blocks North of Route 25A Deer Park LIRR StationIntersection of Pineaire Drive, Grant (Executive) Avenue,and Long Island Avenue,between Commack Road and Sagtikos Parkway Ronkonkoma LIRR StationHawkins Avenue2 blocks South of Long Island Expressway Exit 60Shuttles to Woodhaven subway stationHicksville LIRR StationNewbridge Road (Route 106) and West Barclay Street.One mile South of Exit 41 South off Long Island Expressway,or Exit 35 South off the Northern State Parkway Bus Service to FlushingFlushing Main Street Station trains N20: Weekday and weekend service Major streets of operation: Northern Boulevard Areas served: Lake Success, Great Neck, Thomaston, Munsey Park, Roslyn, Greenvale, NYIT, CW Post, Brookville, SUNY Old Westbury, Jericho and Hicksville LIRR stations: Great Neck, Manhasset, Greenvale and Hicksville P+R lots: Route 106/107 N21: Weekday service Major streets of operation: Northern Boulevard, Bryant Avenue, Prospect Avenue and Glen Avenue Areas served: Lake Success, Great Neck, Thomaston, Munsey Park, Roslyn, Greenvale, Glenwood Landing, Sea Cliff and Glen Cove LIRR stations: Great Neck and Sea Cliff Bus Service to Far RockawayFar Rockaway-Mott Avenue Station trains N31/N32: Weekday and weekend service(N31 does not run on Sundays) Major streets of operation: Hempstead Avenue and Broadway Areas served: Inwood, Lawrence, Cedarhurst, Woodmere, Hewlett, Lynbrook, Malverne, Franklyn Square, West Hempstead and Hempstead LIRR stations: Inwood, Lawrence, Cedarhurst, Woodmere, Hewlett, Lynbrook, Malverne, West Hempstead and Hempstead N33: Weekday and weekend service Major streets of operation: Park Street, West Beech Street and West Park Avenue Areas served: Atlantic Beach and Long Beach LIRR stations: Long Beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 12, 2014 Share #59 Posted July 12, 2014 New York City Transit/MTA Bus Services (Eastern and Central Queens)Most LIRR stations in Queens are adjacent to alternative bus and subway service, including express bus services which operate direct to Manhattan. Local bus and subway fare is $2.50; Express bus fare is $6.00. Fares paid by MetroCard include a free transfer between bus and subway services. Plan your trip with the MTA's From the Murray Hill, Broadway, Auburndale, Bayside, Douglaston and Little Neck LIRR stations Q12: operates along Sanford Ave/Northern Boulevard to the Flushing Main Street station train; Q13 operates along Crocheron Ave/Northern Boulevard to the Flushing Main Street station train; Q28: operates along Northern Boulevard/Crocheron Ave to the Flushing Main Street station train; QM3: peak hour express bus service via Northern Blvd and the Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge to Midtown Manhattan; picks up passengers between Little Neck Pkwy/Horace Harding Expwy and Northern Blvd/Parsons Blvd From the Queens Village LIRR station: Q1: Operates via Springfield Blvd/Hillside Ave to the 179th St station train Q 36: Operates via Jamaica Ave/Hillside Ave to the 179th St station train From the Hollis LIRR station: Q2: Operates via Hollis Ave/Hillside Ave to the 179th St station train Q110: Operates via Jamaica Ave to the Jamaica Center station trains From the St. Albans LIRR station: Q4: Operates via Linden Blvd/Merrick Blvd to the Jamaica Center station trains From the Locust Manor LIRR station: Q85: Operates via Bedell St/Merrick Blvd to the Jamaica Center station trains QM21: Peak hour express bus service via Bedell St, Guy Brewer Blvd, Linden Blvd, Queens Blvd and the LIE to Midtown Manhattan. Picks up passengers between Bedell St/127 Av and Queens Blvd/Hoover Av: From the Far Rockaway LIRR station: Take the train from Far Rockaway-Mott Ave station From the Kew Gardens and Forest Hills LIRR stations: Take the trains from the Kew Gardens-Union Tpke or Forst Hills-71 Ave stations From the Woodside LIRR station: Take the train from the Woodside station Nassau Inter-County Express Bus Service (NICE)Nassau County Bus Service to/from Queens Subway Stops179th St Station ( train)N1: Weekday peak period service (both directions) Major streets of operation: Hempstead Turnpike, Elmont Road and North Central Avenue Areas served: Elmont, Valley Steam, Green Acres Mall, Gibson and Hewlett LIRR stations: Gibson and Valley Stream P+R lots: Green Acres Mall N6/N6X: Weekday service (N6X only weekday peak periods, both directions) Major streets of operation: Hempstead Turnpike Areas served: Elmont, South Floral Park, Franklin Square, West Hempstead and Hempstead LIRR stations: West Hempstead and Hempstead N22/N22A/N22X: Weekday service (N22A only weekday peak periods, both directions; N22X only weekday peak periods, eastbound during the AM and westbound during the PM) Major streets of operation: Hillside Avenue, Prospect Avenue and West John Street Areas served: New Hyde Park, Mineola, East Williston, Roosevelt Field, Westbury, Carle Place, New Cassel and Hicksville LIRR stations: East Williston, Mineola, Carle Place, Westbury, Hicksville P+R lots: Cantiague State Park N24: Weekday and weekend service Major streets of operation: Jericho Turnpike and Old Country Road Areas served: Bellerose, Floral Park, New Hyde Park, Mineola, Roosevelt Field, Carle Place, Westbury and Hicksville LIRR stations: Bellerose, Floral Park, New Hyde Park, Merillon Avenue, Mineola, Carle Place, Westbury, Hicksville N26: Weekday peak period service (eastbound during the AM peak and westbound during the PM peak) Major streets of operation: Lakeville Road, New Hyde Park Road and Community Drive Areas served: New Hyde Park, Lake Success Industrial Quad and Manhasset Hills, Thomaston and Great Neck LIRR stations: Great Neck Jamaica Center Station ( trains) N4/N4X: Weekday and weekend service (N4X only weekday peak periods, both directions) Major streets of operation: Merrick Road Areas served: Valley Stream, Lynbrook, Rockville Centre, Baldwin and Freeport LIRR stations: Valley Stream, Lynbrook, Rockville Centre, Baldwin and Freeport Bus Service to FlushingFlushing Main Street Station trains N20: Weekday and weekend service Major streets of operation: Northern Boulevard Areas served: Lake Success, Great Neck, Thomaston, Munsey Park, Roslyn, Greenvale, NYIT, CW Post, Brookville, SUNY Old Westbury, Jericho and Hicksville LIRR stations: Great Neck, Manhasset, Greenvale and Hicksville P+R lots: Route 106/107 N21: Weekday service Major streets of operation: Northern Boulevard, Bryant Avenue, Prospect Avenue and Glen Avenue Areas served: Lake Success, Great Neck, Thomaston, Munsey Park, Roslyn, Greenvale, Glenwood Landing, Sea Cliff and Glen Cove LIRR stations: Great Neck and Sea Cliff Bus Service to Far RockawayFar Rockaway-Mott Avenue Station trains N31/N32: Weekday and weekend service (N31 does not run on Sundays) Major streets of operation: Hempstead Avenue and Broadway Areas served: Inwood, Lawrence, Cedarhurst, Woodmere, Hewlett, Lynbrook, Malverne, Franklyn Square, West Hempstead and Hempstead LIRR stations: Inwood, Lawrence, Cedarhurst, Woodmere, Hewlett, Lynbrook, Malverne, West Hempstead and Hempstead N33: Weekday and weekend serviceUseful LinksMajor streets of operation: Park Street, West Beech Street and West Park Avenue Areas served: Atlantic Beach and Long Beach LIRR stations: Long BeachSubway map NICE bus service information TripPlanner+ Special Ferry ServiceThe MTA will provide free ferry service between Glen Cove, Long Island and E 34th Street/Midtown in Manhattan. This ferry service will be provided by Seastreak Ferry and will operate during peak hours in peak directions only. Ferry service will depart from Glen Cove in the morning. Ferry service will return from E 34 St in the evening. Schedule for morning and evening to be determined. LIRR tickets will be cross-honored. Customers are asked to display their monthly LIRR tickets upon boarding. The travel time is approximately 40 minutes each way. Ferry capacity is limited to 500 of seats, and seating is first come, first served. There is limited parking at the Glen Cove dock; it is recommended that customers carpool or arrange to be dropped off/picked up. The E 34th Street dock in Manhattan is served by the M34 SBS (Select Bus Service) route. Useful LinksM34 SBS schedule Plan your bus trip with TripPlanner+ Get real-time bus arrival info with MTA Bus Time Photo Courtesy: Seastreak Ferry Directions to Glen Cove Ferry Dock: 83 Garvies Point Rd Glen Cove By Car From Points WestTake the Long Island Expressway to Glen Cove Road North. You will exit the expressway onto the service road and make an immediate left onto Glen Cove Road northbound. Directions continue below. From Points EastTake the Long Island Expressway or Northern State Parkway to the exit for Route 106/107 North. Route 106/107 splits. Continue on Route 107 (bears left). Route 107 merges into Glen Cove Road. Directions continue below.(From Glen Cove Road to Ferry Terminal)Take Glen Cove Road north to the end where it dead ends at the Glen Cove Fire House. (Note: as you come into Glen Cove, the divided highway splits. Cedar Swamp Road goes to the right, Route 107 continues left. STAY LEFT and continue on Rt. 107.) Glen Cove Road turns into Route 107 and, at the end, becomes Pratt Blvd. It dead ends at the Glen Cove Firehouse. At the Firehouse bear LEFT onto Charles Street. The road winds around alongside the Firehouse and then comes up to an intersection with a traffic light. At the light, make a LEFT onto Herbhill Rd. Follow this to then end and make another LEFT onto Garvies Point Rd. Ferry Terminal Parking is located at the site with additional parking further down Garvies Point Road, just before Hempstead Harbour Club, at the very end of Garvies Point Rd. From Glen Cove Road to Downtown Municipal Parking Garages:Pulaski Street Garage: As you enter Glen Cove off Route 107, turn right on Pulaski Street (see Metropolitan Catering Hall on corner). Follow signs to Downtown Parking Garage. Go through tunnel and park in upper level for free parking in excess of 2 hours. Brewster Street Garage: As you enter Glen Cove from Route 107, you will pass Bridge Street (see post office and public library on right hand side and dead end at Glen Cove Firehouse) bear right onto Brewster Street and see Brewster Street Municipal Parking Garage entrance on your right. Park in upper level for free parking in excess of 2 hours. It looks Like Seastreak is providing LIRR Strike ferry service from Glen Cove to East 34th St Pier. 7Bus 7Bus Special Discount - $10 Fare Each Way During LIRR Strike 7Bus is planning alternative strategies for the challenges that a LIRR strike will present. Our goal is to serve our customers as best as we can by limiting the many inconveniences that all NYC-bound commuters will face. To date, several customers have contacted us with suggestions. We have summarized them below and would appreciate your input: Fares Until LIRR service resumes, 7Bus will accept as fare payment either existing commuter passes or a special discount one-way cash fare of $10. All regular fares above $10 will be suspended for the duration of the strike. Schedule Adjustments 7Bus service will move-up commuter departures of the 5:30am, 6:35am, and 7:30am buses by one hour due to the anticipated traffic delays. NYC Destination Starting on the first week day of the strike (possibly July 21), 7Bus will not travel into Manhattan nor will it use the Rego Park drop-off/pick up bus stop. Instead, 7Bus will drop-off and pick-up at the Woodhaven Boulevard subway stop which connects to the M, R and E (late night) trains. We anticipate that the gridlock traveling into Manhattan will add two or more hours to each bus trip. We believe our customers will be better served with a faster trip to their work locations by taking a subway in Queens. Should the strike be prolonged and we can travel into and out of Manhattan within a reasonable timeframe, we will resume Manhattan service. We would like your comments on our proposed LIRR strike service plan. Please respond to info@7bus.com. If you know others that will be affected by the strike, please pass this email along to them. Thank you for being a loyal 7Bus customer. Here is NICE Bus's Service Advisory for MTA LIRR Strike General Service Information: Long Island Railroad Strike Information NICE continues to coordinate with various agencies to offer as much support as possible in the event of a work stoppage. NICE will ensure that all resources are maximized to the fullest, that being said, resources are extremely limited and we expect an extremely challenging situation with very crowded buses, congested streets and very long commutes. Buses will continue their regular routes which include stops at current LIRR stations. Stops in Jamaica and Flushing may change slightly in order to accommodate additional service added by the MTA, more on this as plans solidify. We ask for your patience in the event of a work stoppage and hope that all parties can come to a resolution. For more information on the MTA's strike contingency plans for LIRR service visit http://web.mta.info/LIRRStrikePlan/PossibleLongIslandRailRoadStrike.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 12, 2014 Share #60 Posted July 12, 2014 What are NICE's plans for the LIRR strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 12, 2014 Share #61 Posted July 12, 2014 What are NICE's plans for the LIRR strike? There was one LIRR who spoke at NICE Bus Fare Increase meeting and Nassau County Bus Transit Comittee stated NICE wouldn't be cross-honoring LIRR Tickets, which means LIRR Passengers had to paid to ride NICE Bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted July 12, 2014 Share #62 Posted July 12, 2014 Why would the MTA run a shuttle to the Howard Beach Station instead of the North Conduit Station? Also at the Farmingdale State College location some can opt for the N70 if they can handle the duration of the ride to the subway. There was one LIRR who spoke at NICE Bus Fare Increase meeting and Nassau County Bus Transit Comittee stated NICE wouldn't be cross-honoring LIRR Tickets, which means LIRR Passengers had to paid to ride NICE Bus. I think a lot of LIRR users transfer to the subway anyway, so their ride on NICE would be at no additional cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted July 12, 2014 Share #63 Posted July 12, 2014 Why would the MTA run a shuttle to the Howard Beach Station instead of the North Conduit Station? Also at the Farmingdale State College location some can opt for the N70 if they can handle the duration of the ride to the subway. I think a lot of LIRR users transfer to the subway anyway, so their ride on NICE would be at no additional cost. What's wrong with the Howard Beach Station? The MTA always sent shuttles from Far Rockaway to Howard Beach-JFK Airport whenever the A wasn't running due to trackwork on the weekends. It's much easier and safer to take the people there, then drop them off at the underpass at North Conduit for a transfer for the A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted July 12, 2014 Share #64 Posted July 12, 2014 9 days from strike; Anyone from Long Island planning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted July 12, 2014 Share #65 Posted July 12, 2014 MTA Head Pendragrast according to CBS News is providing a contingency plan in case the strike does occur. Apologies in advance if I unintentionally repeated some points mentioned earlier that I may have overlooked. Shuttle bus service? Yikes! Man this looks brutal, No idea how NICE or MTA Regional Bus Division will even handle this, with the some 300,000 commuters utilizing the busiest railroad in the entire country, daily : The article was relesed only yesterday so according to CBS this is what commuters might have to be prepared for. To quote: "" The MTA plans to offer several free options for commuters, including buses, ferries and parking spots to get people into and out of the city. The MTA says it can get 15,000 riders on the buses from stations in Manhasset, Hicksville, Seaford, Bellmore, Fremont and Nassau Community College. In Ronkonkoma and Deer Park in Suffolk County, the MTA said it can can get 1,000 riders on ferries out of Glen Cove that will take them to the East 34th Station. Buses from Nassau County College, and the Merrick and Bellmore train stations, will connect to the Howard Beach A Train station in Queens. Buses from the Bethpage, Deer Park, and Ronkonkoma stations will connect to the No. 7 line at the Mets-Willets Point station. Buses from Hicksville will go to the Woodhaven Boulevard subway station in Elmhurst, Queens, serving the E, M and R trains. The MTA plans to offer several free options for commuters, including buses, ferries and parking spots to get people into and out of the city. There will be 4,000 parking spots at Citi Field and 3,000 at Aqueduct Raceway. For drivers, the HOV lanes on the LIE will require three people instead of the usual two. Subway cars will be added, and more trains will run, on the 7 and A lines. Ferry and shuttle bus service will be available during peak hours, between 4 a.m. and 7 a.m., and between 3 p.m. and 7 p.m. "" Also the MTA as planned, and as mentioned before by others in this discussion, the LIRR will give up to date info by email alerts, twitter, facebook, and text to provide the latest information. As mentioned before a webpage is set up in preparation for the pending strike. Nassau County is preparing to open a telecommuting office at the Morrelly Homeland Security Center in Bethpage to carry this part of the emergency contingency plan out. Personally speaking I have a hunch that the MTA just might cut a deal with the United Transportation Union at the absolutely last minute as they wait to see who calls bluff. I could be wrong however. I recall this happened oversees with the Brazil Metro with pending strikes that went through regardless of court orders to cease the strike. So if the civil servants go through with this, they will be forced back to work by legislative order from Albany through the courts which the labor unions could dispute regardless at the risk of penalties. I cant say which way this will go but these are the possibilities from what I know about this in reading the articles posted by others in this thread. Expect a catastrophy of a commute for Long Islanders come D-Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted July 12, 2014 Share #66 Posted July 12, 2014 OK I take some of the previous statement back because Cuomo has publicly stated that in effect he will not get involved with pushing legislative powers if the strike takes effect. This is not looking good. http://www.wnyc.org/story/cuomo-possible-lirr-strike/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted July 12, 2014 Share #67 Posted July 12, 2014 What's wrong with the Howard Beach Station? The MTA always sent shuttles from Far Rockaway to Howard Beach-JFK Airport whenever the A wasn't running due to trackwork on the weekends. It's much easier and safer to take the people there, then drop them off at the underpass at North Conduit for a transfer for the A. The North Conduit Station is right on North Conduit Ave, The Shuttle bus is most likely going to pass that station to go to the Howard Beach Station. The Shuttles from Far Rocakway used Cross Bay Blvd which is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #68 Posted July 13, 2014 The North Conduit Station is right on North Conduit Ave, The Shuttle bus is most likely going to pass that station to go to the Howard Beach Station. The Shuttles from Far Rocakway used Cross Bay Blvd which is different. The shuttle during the Sandy outage when via Five Towns to the Howard Beach station, also its easier to stage the buses at Howard beach vs North Conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted July 13, 2014 Share #69 Posted July 13, 2014 The North Conduit Station is right on North Conduit Ave, The Shuttle bus is most likely going to pass that station to go to the Howard Beach Station. The Shuttles from Far Rocakway used Cross Bay Blvd which is different. There's mountains of more space available at Howard Beach to stage a shuttle bus operation compared to N. Conduit. You can't really block a whole lane of traffic just for buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #70 Posted July 13, 2014 What I'm more curious about is what are they doing with subway service? The bus shuttle service is carrying people to the subway I presume the line which is already crowded enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted July 13, 2014 Share #71 Posted July 13, 2014 What I'm more curious about is what are they doing with subway service? The bus shuttle service is carrying people to the subway I presume the line which is already crowded enough... I mean, the main bottleneck is the buses, which can only carry 15,000 people in the peak direction (and that would be all of the buses, not just the ones going to Main St). That's about 10 or 15 full trains at guideline capacity, and the trains can handle much more than that if need be with the trains running every 2.5 minutes. I don't think the bump in ridership would be anything too drastic; it'd be about the same as a home Mets Game, if not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 13, 2014 Share #72 Posted July 13, 2014 They should consider increasing express bus service if this happens on the QM3, QM21, and the other routes that parallel the LIRR, but the MTA never does that. I'm dreading having to get to the city that week if the strike does happen, I'm sure the subways and buses will be packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #73 Posted July 13, 2014 They should consider increasing express bus service if this happens on the QM3, QM21, and the other routes that parallel the LIRR, but the MTA never does that. I'm dreading having to get to the city that week if the strike does happen, I'm sure the subways and buses will be packed. I raised that issue with my local leaders when we had the Metro-North derailment. I told them that those who use Metro-North in Riverdale should be able to ride the Riverdale express buses, and they agreed with me, but the basically tries to steer people away from the express buses in these situations to avoid overcrowding and they don't want to add extra service either. Needless to say, where I get on at in Riverdale there are usually a good amount of seats left before the bus fills up further south and down in Spuyten Duyvil unless folks in North Riverdale past the estate area get on, but I had to actually look around for a seat when I got on, as the BxM1 was pretty crowded during that mess. I eventually switched to the BxM2 to avoid that set up until things went back to normal. I mean, the main bottleneck is the buses, which can only carry 15,000 people in the peak direction (and that would be all of the buses, not just the ones going to Main St). That's about 10 or 15 full trains at guideline capacity, and the trains can handle much more than that if need be with the trains running every 2.5 minutes. I don't think the bump in ridership would be anything too drastic; it'd be about the same as a home Mets Game, if not less. Yeah but a lot of people have said that they're going to drive to the border or drive to the subway, so you can't just think about the bus loads. Plenty of people will try to carpool also to the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted July 13, 2014 Share #74 Posted July 13, 2014 I raised that issue with my local leaders when we had the Metro-North derailment. I told them that those who use Metro-North in Riverdale should be able to ride the Riverdale express buses, and they agreed with me, but the basically tries to steer people away from the express buses in these situations to avoid overcrowding and they don't want to add extra service either. Needless to say, where I get on at in Riverdale there are usually a good amount of seats left unless folks in North Riverdale past the estate area get on, but I had to actually look around for a seat when I got on, as the BxM1 was pretty crowded during that mess. I eventually switched to the BxM2 to avoid that set up until things went back to normal. I had the same complaint with the derailment..the QM1/5/6 should have had increased service that night, even if that meant throwing spare RTS's or whatever onto the lines. Instead, all the buses were packed I'm really hoping this strike doesn't happen or I'm going to have to leave tons of extra time to get where I'm going that week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 13, 2014 Share #75 Posted July 13, 2014 I had the same complaint with the derailment..the QM1/5/6 should have had increased service that night, even if that meant throwing spare RTS's or whatever onto the lines. Instead, all the buses were packed I'm really hoping this strike doesn't happen or I'm going to have to leave tons of extra time to get where I'm going that week Well that and expect crowded express buses... There will certainly be some people that may just drive to the boarder and take the QM6 in or further up for the QM1 or QM5. I'm sure not all of those Long Islanders want to use the subway, trust me. We have people that move here precisely because they want train service via the Metro-North, but don't want to use the subway. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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