Union Tpke Posted September 24, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 24, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelhamlocal Posted September 24, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 24, 2014 interesting, im kind of surprised that they want to start adding new stations, while this far into the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 24, 2014 Share #3 Posted September 24, 2014 I thought the Elmhurst stop was supposed to be on the main line at Woodhaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 24, 2014 Share #4 Posted September 24, 2014 interesting, im kind of surprised that they want to start adding new stations, while this far into the game There's been a lot of local demand, the costs aren't prohibitive, and it could probably open before ESA given the 2023 completion date. I thought the Elmhurst stop was supposed to be on the main line at Woodhaven. IIRC, the stop is where the PW line goes over Queens Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted September 24, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 24, 2014 Elmhurst would just be money wasted nobody there is going to pay LIRR fares to get to Manhattan. Unless reverse peak service is boosted that station would be as useless as Kew gardens. Republic station can't come soon enough then they can do away with pinelawn which is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 24, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 24, 2014 I thought the Elmhurst stop was supposed to be on the main line at Woodhaven. That's the Rego Park/ Middle Village area, not elmhurst anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 25, 2014 Share #7 Posted September 25, 2014 Elmhurst would just be money wasted nobody there is going to pay LIRR fares to get to Manhattan. Unless reverse peak service is boosted that station would be as useless as Kew gardens. Republic station can't come soon enough then they can do away with pinelawn which is useless. The and QBL are so crowded that people will pay those fares; after all, they pay Chinatown van fares, which are now significantly higher than subway rides and also don't give you a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted September 25, 2014 Share #8 Posted September 25, 2014 Elmhurst would just be money wasted nobody there is going to pay LIRR fares to get to Manhattan. Unless reverse peak service is boosted that station would be as useless as Kew gardens. Republic station can't come soon enough then they can do away with pinelawn which is useless.I'd pay the LIRR fare. Would save a lot of time getting home as I can just hop on the Q58 2 blocks away instead of having to take it all the way from Flushing. And don't be coming up with some BS like "take the Q53 from Woodside" or "take the Q58 from Flushing" I got places to go and sometimes the 7 or the QBL can be a long wait and the Q23 don't run overnight and the Q72 has long headways over night and the bus terminals can be quite deserted. How I know? I'm resident of Corona, Queens so I know Elmhurst Station would benefit a lot of Queens residents in the Elmhurst/Jackson Heights/Corona Area Oh let's not forget the occasions when there's major signal trouble or line suspensions on the 7 that they cross-honor fares on the Port Washington Branch. It can get packed ridiculously and most of them hop off at Woodside and Flushing Main Street. If you remember Hurricane Sandy, for the first day or two when limited subway service was restored, the Port Washington Branch was ridiculously packed when the entire 7 line was suspended (and even when limited service between 74 st - Flushing was restored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted September 25, 2014 Share #9 Posted September 25, 2014 The and QBL are so crowded that people will pay those fares; after all, they pay Chinatown van fares, which are now significantly higher than subway rides and also don't give you a free transfer. Significantly higher? They're historically 25 cents more than the train and still are. They charge extra on Chinese holidays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted September 25, 2014 Share #10 Posted September 25, 2014 You'll have several ppl use it...I would like to know the price of the station if built.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted September 26, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 26, 2014 I'd pay the LIRR fare. Would save a lot of time getting home as I can just hop on the Q58 2 blocks away instead of having to take it all the way from Flushing. And don't be coming up with some BS like "take the Q53 from Woodside" or "take the Q58 from Flushing" I got places to go and sometimes the 7 or the QBL can be a long wait and the Q23 don't run overnight and the Q72 has long headways over night and the bus terminals can be quite deserted. How I know? I'm resident of Corona, Queens so I know Elmhurst Station would benefit a lot of Queens residents in the Elmhurst/Jackson Heights/Corona Area Oh let's not forget the occasions when there's major signal trouble or line suspensions on the 7 that they cross-honor fares on the Port Washington Branch. It can get packed ridiculously and most of them hop off at Woodside and Flushing Main Street. If you remember Hurricane Sandy, for the first day or two when limited subway service was restored, the Port Washington Branch was ridiculously packed when the entire 7 line was suspended (and even when limited service between 74 st - Flushing was restored) so you will wait 30 minutes for a train instead of 5 minutes on the subway? The signal problems being fixed is a higher priority. The wait for the is rarely longer than the LIRR. Question you think port Washington line would benefit from upgraded offpeak service to 15 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted September 26, 2014 Share #12 Posted September 26, 2014 The and QBL are so crowded that people will pay those fares; after all, they pay Chinatown van fares, which are now significantly higher than subway rides and also don't give you a free transfer. http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/07/09/re-re-examining-an-elmhurst-lirr-station/ read the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 26, 2014 Share #13 Posted September 26, 2014 http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/07/09/re-re-examining-an-elmhurst-lirr-station/ read the comments. There are good comments both in favor and against. What exactly is your point? LIRR ridership in Queens would be improved if the stations themselves were improved (longer than four cars in the case of Kew Gardens and FH, easier to find in the case of Flushing), and a newly built station straddling Queens Blvd would have none of these problems, assuming the LIRR wasn't extremely short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted September 26, 2014 Share #14 Posted September 26, 2014 so you will wait 30 minutes for a train instead of 5 minutes on the subway? The signal problems being fixed is a higher priority. The wait for the is rarely longer than the LIRR. Question you think port Washington line would benefit from upgraded offpeak service to 15 minutes? With the weekday service changes when one side bypasses my home stop, sometimes I'm better off taking the LIRR. I don't blame them for required maintenance but it can be quite a hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted September 26, 2014 Share #15 Posted September 26, 2014 There are good comments both in favor and against. What exactly is your point? LIRR ridership in Queens would be improved if the stations themselves were improved (longer than four cars in the case of Kew Gardens and FH, easier to find in the case of Flushing), and a newly built station straddling Queens Blvd would have none of these problems, assuming the LIRR wasn't extremely short-sighted. Forest hills is a direct one seat connection from the LIRR to the QBL locals without having to take the the Kew gardens LiRR however is redundant outside rush hour. I do agree that the flushing station can use some improvements though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted September 27, 2014 Share #16 Posted September 27, 2014 Does this have something to do with the neighborhood being redeveloped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted September 28, 2014 The Kew Gardens station has platform extensions on the books. I think they should do a full platform extension 12 cars westward with an exit at the 80 Road overpass. This would provide easier access to LIRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR 154 Posted September 28, 2014 Share #18 Posted September 28, 2014 Does this have something to do with the neighborhood being redeveloped?Its probably one of the main issues but the biggest I think is the public demand. How the area looks now and what look then when it was opened is like night and day. The build up of apartments and retail will bring customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted September 29, 2014 Share #19 Posted September 29, 2014 Elmhurst would just be money wasted nobody there is going to pay LIRR fares to get to Manhattan. Unless reverse peak service is boosted that station would be as useless as Kew gardens. Republic station can't come soon enough then they can do away with pinelawn which is useless. FYI we had a Republic station on the Ronkonkoma Branch years ago, as well as a Grumman stop. Neighborhoods change over the years so maybe RT 110 will get it's station back. As far as Pinelawn is concerned I can assure you that many workers and visitors use the station at Pinelawn because of its location and the surrounding cemeteries and memorial parks. Just because you've never used the station does not mean it's useless to others. Most people I've run across at least show a modicum of respect for the departed. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmNBlues Posted October 12, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 12, 2014 Make a connection to this and the new station in Astoria and you've got yourself a deal!! Perhaps, a new bus shuttle connecting to the Q70 from the Elmhurst station for folks going to LaGuardia should be in the works as well. Q10A/B for JFK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR 154 Posted October 12, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 12, 2014 Make a connection to this and the new station in Astoria and you've got yourself a deal!! Perhaps, a new bus shuttle connecting to the Q70 from the Elmhurst station for folks going to LaGuardia should be in the works as well. Q10A/B for JFK? Whaaat?? I don't if serious or not. Where do you get these ideas from? Port Wash branch is no way near Astoria.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhythmNBlues Posted October 13, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 13, 2014 Whaaat?? I don't if serious or not. Where do you get these ideas from? Port Wash branch is no way near Astoria.. We'll see... It's important to think out of the box. It's no wonder we have such horrible problems in the world. Just look at the roads. The roads are in horrible shape. Traffic is terrible. There's so much more we could do to spend money more efficiently. Instead, other folks choose to decide what's right and wrong just because it's convenient for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted October 13, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 13, 2014 We'll see... It's important to think out of the box. It's no wonder we have such horrible problems in the world. Just look at the roads. The roads are in horrible shape. Traffic is terrible. There's so much more we could do to spend money more efficiently. Instead, other folks choose to decide what's right and wrong just because it's convenient for them. You don't seem to understand what "think out of the box" means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted October 16, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 16, 2014 Isn't this like the third thread you've attempted to sell us on the Astoria-Metro North thing? You get an A for your effort in redundancy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 18, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 18, 2014 Isn't this like the third thread you've attempted to sell us on the Astoria-Metro North thing? You get an A for your effort in redundancy.... he has another thread that needs closing. If you don't reply to him the thread will go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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