checkmatechamp13 Posted January 20, 2013 Share #576 Posted January 20, 2013 Grand Central Should Have A Passageway Between it And Times Sq 42 St and destroy that Nobody's going to want to walk that long a passageway underground. The connection to Times Square is long enough. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenFrancis Posted January 20, 2013 Share #577 Posted January 20, 2013 Grand Central Should Have A Passageway Between it And Times Sq 42 St and destroy that Walking from Times Square and Grand Central, one simply does not have time for that and not only it would kill the , it could also kill the , if not, reduce ridership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 20, 2013 Share #578 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Grand Central Should Have A Passageway Between it And Times Sq 42 St and destroy that Aint' nobody got time fa that! Edited January 20, 2013 by Quill Depot 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 20, 2013 Share #579 Posted January 20, 2013 You could have a huge moving walkway. You may not think it is as long, here are the facts tho. The distance between Grand Central and Times Square is about 4/6 of a mile. The walking speed is about 3 miles per hour while the moving walkway is moving at about 3 mph. Therefore, the moving speed is 6 mph. This is only 6 minutes and 40 seconds. (Solved using V=d/t.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 20, 2013 Share #580 Posted January 20, 2013 You could have a huge moving walkway. You may not think it is as long, here are the facts tho. The distance between Grand Central and Times Square is about 4/6 of a mile. The walking speed is about 3 miles per hour while the moving walkway is moving at about 3 mph. Therefore, the moving speed is 6 mph. This is only 6 minutes and 40 seconds. (Solved using V=d/t.) How many people will just stand there and chat while blocking everyone else? …or how about tourists taking pictures? I say 3 mph of that is going to be negated by people simply not moving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 20, 2013 Share #581 Posted January 20, 2013 You could have a huge moving walkway. You may not think it is as long, here are the facts tho. The distance between Grand Central and Times Square is about 4/6 of a mile. The walking speed is about 3 miles per hour while the moving walkway is moving at about 3 mph. Therefore, the moving speed is 6 mph. This is only 6 minutes and 40 seconds. (Solved using V=d/t.) This has been proposed since about the 40's or 50's... You could probably automate the Shuttle. It's a short line with short cars, so the TWU probably won't care, and it would be a great testing bed. The last time they did it though, the trains caught fire and they never spoke of it again. Keep in mind that we're going to be relying on the MTA to keep this moving walkway(s, cause there are no moving walkways that exist that could handle that flow over that distance with a single walkway) working and reliable. I for one don't mind because the MTA has had such a great track record maintaining its elevators and bathrooms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 20, 2013 Share #582 Posted January 20, 2013 I for one don't mind because the MTA has had such a great track record maintaining its elevators and bathrooms. My sarcasm meter isn't working on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted January 20, 2013 Share #583 Posted January 20, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Brooklyn" data-cid="633742" data-time="1358457939"><p> Again, my responses are not "fantasy" far from it.<br /> <br /> I gave other reasons why, but I guess you are selectively reading my posts....<br /> <br /> Part of it is to simply the system and make transfers easier too.<br /> <br /> I wanted the station for a transfer to the ...this could help during GOs of the line and ......I always felt that there should have been a transfer there anyway. This would give Williamsburg residents more options as well as give some riders another means of getting to Manhattan other than the or .<br /> <br /> In the process, why not make Lorimer/Hewes into one station with that connection? (right on top at Union AV).<br /> <br /> For Beverly and Cortelyou, just one station serving both streets....Beverly is literally a long block away from Cortelyou at this point. It doesn't make sense. In the meantime, perhaps a bigger station with more stairs.<br /> <br /> I wanted a station at 7th av because of the population and a somewhat large gap between stations from 36th to 9th av. But again, that station physically might not be possible since I have posters who presented <span class='bbc_underline'>physical EVIDENCE saying why that would be problematic rather than saying "it's too expensive" not only changing the subject, but with jack to back it up. </span></p></blockquote> I started a topic about a transfer btwn the and the last year. It wouldn't work because there isn't much ridership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 20, 2013 Share #584 Posted January 20, 2013 This has been proposed since about the 40's or 50's... You could probably automate the Shuttle. It's a short line with short cars, so the TWU probably won't care, and it would be a great testing bed. The last time they did it though, the trains caught fire and they never spoke of it again. Keep in mind that we're going to be relying on the MTA to keep this moving walkway(s, cause there are no moving walkways that exist that could handle that flow over that distance with a single walkway) working and reliable. I for one don't mind because the MTA has had such a great track record maintaining its elevators and bathrooms. Lol, I'm sure those that uses the at Court sq will 'agree' with that about the moving walkways. Though how many people are going to try to run in the opposite direction just for the fun of it? I know I'd be tempted to do that, lol. But for the distance from GCT to TS, just keep the shuttle as is. For the costs to cover the tracks with a platform and then installing the walkway, is it any cost effective over keeping the train? If you need a moving walkway, then install them for the corridor from the end of the shuttle to just outside the lexington av mezzanine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 20, 2013 Share #585 Posted January 20, 2013 Treat the walkway like it's a line, it'll be fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 20, 2013 Share #586 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Yeah and what happens when it breaks down and you have to walk the whole distance? what then? That's why the walkway idea replacing the train is stupid. For a vast distance like that why replace the train? If you want more people movers, then install them in the long walkways like TS to 8th av and the end of the GC S to Lex mezzanine. That's it, and leave the alone. Edited January 20, 2013 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 20, 2013 Share #587 Posted January 20, 2013 Yeah and what happens when it breaks down and you have to walk the whole distance? what then? That's why the walkway idea replacing the train is stupid. For a vast distance like that why replace the train? If you want more people movers, then install them in the long walkways like TS to 8th av and the end of the GC S to Lex mezzanine. That's it, and leave the alone. There is just as much of a chance for something on the to not work than for the thing to not work. It could be separated into multiple sections and if one section is out, the others are not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 20, 2013 Share #588 Posted January 20, 2013 And how often does a train break down on the S compared to say Court sq's people mover? No, I still won't buy into that idea. Imo, that's probably worse than that 39th st idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted January 20, 2013 Share #589 Posted January 20, 2013 Grand Central Should Have A Passageway Between it And Times Sq 42 St and destroy that why bother? what is wrong with the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 21, 2013 Share #590 Posted January 21, 2013 Destroy the .... lol... Apparently someone doesn't know what a schlepp it is from the West Side to the East Side... Hell if you're going to get rid of the then what about the ?? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 21, 2013 Share #591 Posted January 21, 2013 The can be faster to get to the 8th Avenue line from Grand Central. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 21, 2013 Share #592 Posted January 21, 2013 The can be faster to get to the 8th Avenue line from Grand Central. The is meant to be a short shuttle from Grand Central to Times Square (the busiest and second busiest stations in the system), and it's pretty well utilized - it's certainly not empty when it's running. The is a commuter line that connects the busiest and second-busiest stations with the tenth-busiest station in the city (which also happens to be the busiest station in the outer boroughs). It is pretty much a consensus that the is overcrowded during the peak - hence, CBTC. If you shove the shuttle riders onto the , it would be a nightmare. Not to mention, the is located at a significantly lower level than the , so it would be more of a PITA to get to. The is not broken - why fix it? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 21, 2013 Share #593 Posted January 21, 2013 People creating more problems than solutions... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted January 21, 2013 Share #594 Posted January 21, 2013 They could do that idea from Grand Concourse from the outer end of GC to Lex Av Mezzazine... in 50 years or so. The better spends there money on other things at this point, that walkway can be done whenever the hell that's feasible. But at this point, there are still gaps in the system, still stations that need a rehab (yes Chambers, I'm looking at you) and other projects like 2nd Ave line, 10th Ave station built instead of a shell or ESA for example. There is just no point in installing a walkway when clearly a lot of other things need to happen first, especially given the limited budget they have atm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted January 21, 2013 Share #595 Posted January 21, 2013 The is not broken - why fix it? You don't understand the mind of a foamer. They never stop thinking about to "fix" EVERYTHING..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 21, 2013 Share #596 Posted January 21, 2013 Here are the foamer complaints again… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendell Posted February 9, 2013 Share #597 Posted February 9, 2013 Extended to Africa! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 9, 2013 Share #598 Posted February 9, 2013 Extended to Africa! Okay.... that is not funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted February 9, 2013 Share #599 Posted February 9, 2013 My fantasy services: (U) Nassau Local terminating at Coney Island ( via West End ) (Y) Second Avenue Express Open for suggestions!!! Depends on where this (U) would originate from along the El... I'm open for SAS express, but you'd need to add stops to the line for it to make sense... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted February 9, 2013 Share #600 Posted February 9, 2013 Okay.... that is not funny. I disagree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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