CenSin Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2626 Posted December 26, 2014 Thanks for the info! Now I understand the shuttle. But why didnt they just build a overpass onto track 4 from track 2 at TS instead of building a platform over the tracks?Do you really need four tracks for a shuttle? Some entire lines are only double-tracked. Track space converted to platform space would be more cost-effective than digging some more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2627 Posted December 26, 2014 A subway along Utica Av from Manhattan: Manhattan: 2 Avenue/Houston Street Avenue C/Houston Street Brooklyn: Roebling Street/Grand Street Union Avenue/Grand Street Broadway/Union Avenue Manhattan Avenue/Broadway Myrtle Avenue/Broadway Greene Avenue/Stuyvesant Avenue Jefferson Avenue/Stuyvesant Avenue Fulton Street/Utica Avenue Prospect Place/Utica Avenue Eastern Parkway/Utica Avenue Empire Boulevard/Utica Avenue Winthrop Street/Utica Avenue Church Avenue/Utica Avenue Clarendon Road/Utica Avenue Foster Avenue/Utica Avenue Kings Highway/Utica Avenue Flatlands Avenue/Utica Avenue Avenue N/Utica Avenue Marine Park/Flatbush Avenue The new service will be the (P) train, which will be colored pink on subway maps, I revised my proposal: Manhattan: 2 Avenue/Houston Street Avenue C/Houston Street Brooklyn: Berry Street/Grand Street Havemeyer Street/South 4 Street Union Avenue/South 4 Street Flushing Avenue/Beaver Street Myrtle Avenue/Broadway Greene Avenue/Stuyvesant Avenue Jefferson Avenue/Stuyvesant Avenue Fulton Street/Utica Avenue Prospect Place/Utica Avenue Eastern Parkway/Utica Avenue Empire Boulevard/Utica Avenue Winthrop Street/Utica Avenue Church Avenue/Utica Avenue Clarendon Road/Utica Avenue Foster Avenue/Utica Avenue Kings Highway/Utica Avenue Flatlands Avenue/Utica Avenue Avenue N/Utica Avenue Marine Park/Flatbush Avenue This service will be designated as the and will be colored pink on maps. Other than that, I changed some of the station locations to better reflect the original plans from the IND Second System. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2628 Posted December 26, 2014 Do you really need four tracks for a shuttle? Some entire lines are only double-tracked. Track space converted to platform space would be more cost-effective than digging some more. No that's not what I meant. I meant the pedestrian overpass on track 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike198450 Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2629 Posted December 26, 2014 A subway Connecting Queens and the Bronx, with the route from Dyre Av, Bronx, to Kings Plaza, Brooklyn. This route will be designated the (8) and will have the same color as the . It runs express in every borough it runs on. Bronx stops Eastchester-Dyre Av (233 St/ Dyre Av) Transfer Tillotson Av (Near Co-Op City Blvd) Hammersley Ave (Next to Harry Truman High) Bay Plaza-Bartow Av (Baychester Av) Gun Hill Rd-Hutchinson Pkwy (The crossing of the New England Thruway and Hutchinson Pkwy) Pelham Bay Park - Transfer (14) Throgs Neck-E 177 St (The merging of the Throgs Neck and Cross Bronx Expressways) Transfer (14) to Manhattan via 5 Av Local Harding Av (Throgs Neck Expwy south service road) Pennyfield Av-Martime College Queens Utopia Pkwy (Willets Point Blvd) 20 Av (Utopia Pkwy) 24 Av (Utopia Pkwy) 207 St (26 Av) 32 Av (Clearview Expwy) 38 Av (Clearview expwy) Clearview Expwy-206 St Transfer (10) 162 St (Crocheron Av/Northern Blvd) Transfer (10) Connection (LIRR) Flushing-Main St (Roosevelt Av) Transfer (10) (11) Mets-Willets Point (Roosevelt Av) Transfer (10) (11) 94 St-LaGuardia Airport (near Ditmars Blvd) Transfer (11) 31 St (Ditmars Blvd) Transfer (11) 36 Av (21 St) Transfer (10) and (11) via 72 St connection to Manhattan 41 Av-Queensbridge (21 St) Transfer 45 Rd- Court Sq (21 St) Transfer Hunters Point Av (21 St) Transfer in upper level and in same level as (8) Vernon Blvd-Jackson Av (50 Av) Transfer in upper level and in same level as (8) To Manhattan via 42 St tunnel in upper section while (8) in lower track section Grand Central-42 St (Transfer to Times Square) 5 Av-Bryant Park (42 St) Transfer (12) (13) (14) Times Square-42 St (41 St) Transfer to Grand Central (PABT) (All stops from now until the stop including this mark (*) will be located in the Riverside of Manhattan) 42 St- Circle Line (41 St/11 Av) Transfer (10) (11) 34 St -Javits Center (10) (11) 14 St (10) (11) *World Financial Center ( terminates here ) (West St/ future Fulton St extension) Transfer (10) (11) Bowling Green (10) (11) South Ferry (10) (11) To Brooklyn via Remsen St tunnel Borough Hall (10) (11) Nevins St (9) (11) Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr (2)(3)(4)(5) (10) (11) (B)(D)(N)(Q)(R) Prospect Park-Empire Blvd (11) (B)(Q) Brooklyn College-Flatbush Av (Flatbush/Nostrand Intersection) (2)(5) (11) terminates here Avenue J (Flatbush Av) Kings Hwy (Flatbush) East 46 St (Flatbush) Kings Plaza (Flatbush/Av U) Transfer (10) What do you think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2630 Posted December 26, 2014 After I read the first stop I passed out. X.X 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted December 26, 2014 Share #2631 Posted December 26, 2014 After I read the first stop I passed out. X.XYou go to school there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 27, 2014 Share #2632 Posted December 27, 2014 No, but I have bad memories there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted December 27, 2014 Share #2633 Posted December 27, 2014 No, but I have bad memories there.What kinds of bad memories? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 27, 2014 Share #2634 Posted December 27, 2014 Got mugged there once by a group of teens. They stole my iPhone 3G. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted December 27, 2014 Share #2635 Posted December 27, 2014 Got mugged there once by a group of teens. They stole my iPhone 3G. Is that neighborhood really that bad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2636 Posted December 29, 2014 Is that neighborhood really that bad? You have the secor projects and the edenwald houses over there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2637 Posted December 29, 2014 Ive got a few ideas: Since the orignially ran to 21 St-Queens Bridge, the now runs to Lex Ave - 63 Street and 57 Street - 7 Ave to allow more TPH, and to allow easy access to the . I know that I have said this before, but why is Burnside Ave built as a Express Station? Allow NFC readers to be placed on MetroCard Turnstiles and Vending Machines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2638 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Ive got a few ideas: Since the orignially ran to 21 St-Queens Bridge, the now runs to Lex Ave - 63 Street and 57 Street - 7 Ave to allow more TPH, and to allow easy access to the . THAT WON'T WORK! 63 can't be a terminal I know that I have said this before, but why is Burnside Ave built as a Express Station? Allow NFC readers to be placed on MetroCard Turnstiles and Vending Machines. Edited December 29, 2014 by Union Tpke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2639 Posted December 29, 2014 Then how did the Orange terminate in the 90's at 63 Street? And you didn't say anything about the other 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2640 Posted December 29, 2014 Then how did the Orange terminate in the 90's at 63 Street?Before the ever ran full-time through the corridor to Queens Boulevard, 63 Street was originally a tunnel that dead-ended at the first station in Queens: Queensbridge–21 Street. Furthermore, the you speak of was an orange , and it ran from Brighton Beach to Queensbridge–21 Street. Various other 6 Avenue routes have used it as a terminal, but the only Broadway route to have used it in regular service was the yellow . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2641 Posted December 29, 2014 Oh, so QueensBridge wasn't Lex - 63 Street? My mistake, I did a geographic error. When was this tunnel that connected the from 21 Street to via its own route as of today built? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2642 Posted December 29, 2014 Oh, so QueensBridge wasn't Lex - 63 Street? My mistake, I did a geographic error. When was this tunnel that connected the from 21 Street to via its own route as of today built? It started December 2001, the same day the was born. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxM4Woodlawn Posted December 29, 2014 Share #2643 Posted December 29, 2014 My well thought out proposals: extend the further northeast into the Bronx, along Gun Hill Road, then Boston Road terminating at Eastchester-Dyre Avenue with the . New stops: Gun Hill Road/Webster Ave Gun Hill Road/White Plains Road Gun Hill Road/Bronxdale Ave Gun Hill Road/Boston Road Boston Road/E 222nd Street Boston Road/Eastchester Road Boston Road/Baychester Avenue Eastchester-Dyre Avenue Also, a new (8) train will be created to run along 3rd Avenue and the Lexington Ave Local terminating at City Hall. New 3rd Avenue Bronx Stops: 3rd Ave-138th Street 3rd Ave-149th Street 156th Street 163rd Street 169th Street Clarmont Parkway Tremont Avenue 180th Street 184th Street Fordham Plaza 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted December 30, 2014 Share #2644 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) My well thought out proposals: extend the further northeast into the Bronx, along Gun Hill Road, then Boston Road terminating at Eastchester-Dyre Avenue with the . New stops: Gun Hill Road/Webster Ave Gun Hill Road/White Plains Road Gun Hill Road/Bronxdale Ave Gun Hill Road/Boston Road Boston Road/E 222nd Street Boston Road/Eastchester Road Boston Road/Baychester Avenue Eastchester-Dyre Avenue Also, a new (8) train will be created to run along 3rd Avenue and the Lexington Ave Local terminating at City Hall. New 3rd Avenue Bronx Stops: 3rd Ave-138th Street 3rd Ave-149th Street 156th Street 163rd Street 169th Street Clarmont Parkway Tremont Avenue 180th Street 184th Street Fordham Plaza Hell, no! Another local service on Lex means reducing frequency on the --I always take this train (and the or afterwards) to Brooklyn Bridge every day I commute to BMCC, and if God forbid that were to happen in reality, I'm gonna be running late for college every day, man! And besides, ALL THREE of those trains get mad crowded on rush hour. Save that for the Second Avenue Subway and leave the alone... Edited December 30, 2014 by lara8710 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Dude Posted December 30, 2014 Share #2645 Posted December 30, 2014 Oh, so QueensBridge wasn't Lex - 63 Street? My mistake, I did a geographic error. When was this tunnel that connected the from 21 Street to via its own route as of today built? It started December 2001, the same day the was born. You could've searched it up on Google. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 31, 2014 Share #2646 Posted December 31, 2014 You could've searched it up on Google. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 31, 2014 Share #2647 Posted December 31, 2014 The horse is very much still alive. You can kill it yourself if you have to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted December 31, 2014 Share #2648 Posted December 31, 2014 The horse is very much still alive. You can kill it yourself if you have to. Im not sure if thats a joke or a comment, but I'm just gonna say LOL to keep it that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted December 31, 2014 Share #2649 Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) My well thought out proposals: extend the further northeast into the Bronx, along Gun Hill Road, then Boston Road terminating at Eastchester-Dyre Avenue with the . New stops: Gun Hill Road/Webster Ave Gun Hill Road/White Plains Road Gun Hill Road/Bronxdale Ave Gun Hill Road/Boston Road Boston Road/E 222nd Street Boston Road/Eastchester Road Boston Road/Baychester Avenue Eastchester-Dyre Avenue Also, a new (8) train will be created to run along 3rd Avenue and the Lexington Ave Local terminating at City Hall. New 3rd Avenue Bronx Stops: 3rd Ave-138th Street 3rd Ave-149th Street 156th Street 163rd Street 169th Street Clarmont Parkway Tremont Avenue 180th Street 184th Street Fordham Plaza BTW, is it possible to run trains at 2-minute headways on Lex? Edited December 31, 2014 by lara8710 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 31, 2014 Share #2650 Posted December 31, 2014 Yes, it's possible to run trains at 2-minute headways (30 trains an hour) on any corridor in the subway system. But you can't run any more than that. And even if you do run trains at 2-minute headways (30 trains an hour), there would always be delays anyway. The Queens Blvd Express () have that headway during rush hours. The Lexington Av Express () is close. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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