TheNewYorkElevated Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2451 Posted November 16, 2014 1. The was Brown, not yellow 2. Broad Street usually closes during weekends. Broad Street will run at all times starting in 2015. 3. The served Broad Street only during rush hours, when the ran to Bay Parkway. (Although it did briefly terminate at Broad Street evenings in 2009 and 2010.) Speaking of the , I have an idea... On rush hours, there's a selected number of trains that go over to Jamaica Center as a local until Briarwood to join with the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2452 Posted November 16, 2014 My mistake, typo error. Why will Broad St be open at all times? It should be to have the connect to Fulton Street at all times. Fulton Street is a very busy station, especially with the Fulton Transit Center that recently opened. Speaking of the , I have an idea... On rush hours, there's a selected number of trains that go over to Jamaica Center as a local until Briarwood to join with the . Not sure if it could work since the was extended to 179th Street in the early 1990's, but quickly discontinued. I believe most people would use an express service in Jamaica instead of a local. In fact, this is the reason the Queens Boulevard locals end at Forest Hills and the Jamaica died quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2453 Posted November 16, 2014 Jamaica Center is going to overload and service will crumble. It can simply not handle that many trains, as it wasn't meant to be a terminal in the first place. Maybe if Jamaica Center was modified to hold more trains it could work, but it is simply not worth all the effort, as stated above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2454 Posted November 16, 2014 Or extend the line.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2455 Posted November 16, 2014 Speaking of the , I have an idea... On rush hours, there's a selected number of trains that go over to Jamaica Center as a local until Briarwood to join with the . There's a reason why they send some trains to/from 179 St 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2456 Posted November 16, 2014 Speaking of the , I have an idea... On rush hours, there's a selected number of trains that go over to Jamaica Center as a local until Briarwood to join with the . The diamond crossover switch is located midway between Sutphin Blvd and Jamaica Center. So it will take quite alot to handle more than 12 trains per hour. Jamaica Center wasn't meant to be an actual terminal station in the first place. Just like "every other" short turning at Kings Hwy, due to the diamond crossover being located directly south of West 8 St instead of directly closer before Stillwell. And I hope you'll understand that Jamaica riders actually want to head for Manhattan under a limited time frame, since most of those riders are actually coming from the buses before getting on a train. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2457 Posted November 16, 2014 Wait, so the MTA was planning to extend the from 179 Street but stopped due to budget cuts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2458 Posted November 16, 2014 Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2459 Posted November 16, 2014 Wait, so the MTA was planning to extend the from 179 Street but stopped due to budget cuts? Yes in the '70's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2460 Posted November 16, 2014 They should at least create a extended platform at 179 Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2461 Posted November 16, 2014 They should at least create a extended platform at 179 Street. Why? 179 Street has a lot more capacity than most terminals, as there are 4 tracks to use for termination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2462 Posted November 16, 2014 They should at least create a extended platform at 179 Street. What does that accomplish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2463 Posted November 16, 2014 But the delays, they should ether add another platform or add another terminal station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2464 Posted November 16, 2014 Yes in the '70's Nope. The plan was for the new 63rd St Line to be the Queens Blvd Bypass and meet up at Forest Hills. What is now the E would've been sent south to Springfield Blvd via the LIRR. In Phase II, the J/Z would've been connected to this and been extended via the LIRR ROW to Hollis. The only plan to extend the Hillside Line was in the 1939 iteration of the Second System. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 16, 2014 Share #2465 Posted November 16, 2014 Why? 179 Street has a lot more capacity than most terminals, as there are 4 tracks to use for termination. But the delays, they should ether add another platform or add another terminal station. My quote above says it all. There is nothing more that is needed for 179 Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted November 17, 2014 Share #2466 Posted November 17, 2014 Add a Ave A exit to 1st Ave on the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted November 17, 2014 Share #2467 Posted November 17, 2014 Add a Ave A exit to 1st Ave on the Definitely. That is well needed, especially with that area like the rest of Manhattan being built up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted November 17, 2014 Share #2468 Posted November 17, 2014 But the delays, they should ether add another platform or add another terminal station. What delays?! If anything extend the tail tracks at Parsons Archer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted November 18, 2014 Share #2469 Posted November 18, 2014 Mta can yall fix the chamber at station shit b looking like thriller The J and Z line even if they close one side it can work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 19, 2014 Share #2470 Posted November 19, 2014 What delays?! If anything extend the tail tracks at Parsons Archer. The tail tracks aren't the issue, the crossover is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted November 19, 2014 Share #2471 Posted November 19, 2014 Jamaica Center is going to overload and service will crumble. It can simply not handle that many trains, as it wasn't meant to be a terminal in the first place. Maybe if Jamaica Center was modified to hold more trains it could work, but it is simply not worth all the effort, as stated above. Or extend the line.... Might be the only way to keep JC from overloading. 12 tph just isn't cutting it. But that's all JC can handle due to where the crossover is. Maybe have extend the one stop to Merrick Blvd and Archer Ave and put a switch close enough to the new station that would allow 15 tph to enter and leave there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted November 20, 2014 Share #2472 Posted November 20, 2014 Might be the only way to keep JC from overloading. 12 tph just isn't cutting it. But that's all JC can handle due to where the crossover is. Maybe have extend the one stop to Merrick Blvd and Archer Ave and put a switch close enough to the new station that would allow 15 tph to enter and leave there. Most likely, however, that would also require extending the J/Z one stop. But without $$$, even a one stop extension won't happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted November 21, 2014 Share #2473 Posted November 21, 2014 Much money as the makes it's dissapointing they're not able to expand the subway system as fast as the city is growing. Is there something I'm missing. Credit issues, Debt, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 22, 2014 Share #2474 Posted November 22, 2014 Much money as the makes it's dissapointing they're not able to expand the subway system as fast as the city is growing. Is there something I'm missing. Credit issues, Debt, etc. The MTA still has yet to get itself completely out of a 30-year rut of deferred maintenance. The MTA's debt service is also pretty much about a third of the budget. No one wants to give the MTA more money, so it has to issue more debt, get downgraded, and raise fares. Lastly, the MTA is digging the most expensive subway projects in the world: the 7 Line Extension and SAS are in the neighborhood of $2B a mile, and at those prices forget about sinking money into more subways at this time, particularly since the whole SAS is taking $17B and we have bigger priorities as well like the Gateway Tunnel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 23, 2014 Share #2475 Posted November 23, 2014 You also missed one of the more critical reasons why we haven't seen any real significant subway expansion, political will. Other than a few small voices, you don't really hear much about any real legitimate calls to build new subway lines and extend other ones. And when you do, it's mostly a gimmick for votes in an election year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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