40 to 241st Posted February 14 Share #526 Posted February 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Don't bother, it'll be an endless pointless argument with him. So I can’t compliment some one post and ask what something means because I don’t understand what he’s saying. If you read what I responded you’d realize I didn’t want any sort of bull shit whatsoever complimented what he said and ask what he means. I had those long and piont less arguments when I was newer to the transit forums Edited February 14 by 40 to 241st 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 15 Share #527 Posted February 15 12 hours ago, 40 to 241st said: Ok I searched it up and found that it means something we’re you park to get a ride on something like a bus or train. So you were trying to say that you don’t like the idea of people parking along or near central avenue to get a ride on the bxm4c Close, but nah.... There's a distinct difference between park & riding (what you're describing) and "kiss & riding".... Kiss & riding, in this case, is where someone (usually a relative, friend, or acquaintance) drops you off to a bus stop, and then drives off afterwards... There's no parking at/around said bus stop involved. So I say that to say, my point isn't about "not liking".... It's about Central Park av's layout not being all that conducive to have people being dropped off along it, to catch a bus, in any large enough scale... It makes for a poor stretch to have commuters engaging in that phenomenon.... It's far too cumbersome for most patrons proximate enough to Central Park av. to actually consider walking to the BxMC4... Suburban express routes tend to not do well if the stops aren't really proximate to their places of residence... Either that, or some sort of "official" park & ride type setup; which Westchester county in general sorely lacks.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted February 15 Share #528 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, RSMG106 said: 124 from Valhalla garage has been retired. This means that 125 is the last remaining Orion V short out of Valhalla. 123, 127, and 129 from PTLA are still active. 124 ran earlier on the shuttle loop F. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 15 Share #529 Posted February 15 37 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: 124 ran earlier on the shuttle loop F. The Valhalla Orion Shorties will definitely be gone by next month or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBusLover1 Posted February 15 Share #530 Posted February 15 35 minutes ago, RSMG106 said: The Valhalla Orion Shorties will definitely be gone by next month or so. Probably even sooner than that… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 15 Author Share #531 Posted February 15 17 hours ago, B35 via Church said: Close, but nah.... There's a distinct difference between park & riding (what you're describing) and "kiss & riding".... Kiss & riding, in this case, is where someone (usually a relative, friend, or acquaintance) drops you off to a bus stop, and then drives off afterwards... There's no parking at/around said bus stop involved. So I say that to say, my point isn't about "not liking".... It's about Central Park av's layout not being all that conducive to have people being dropped off along it, to catch a bus, in any large enough scale... It makes for a poor stretch to have commuters engaging in that phenomenon.... It's far too cumbersome for most patrons proximate enough to Central Park av. to actually consider walking to the BxMC4... Suburban express routes tend to not do well if the stops aren't really proximate to their places of residence... Either that, or some sort of "official" park & ride type setup; which Westchester county in general sorely lacks.... Me being one of them. Sure, it's a quick ride on the 4 bus but that takes the convivence out of it, not to mention it makes the exact same major stops at the railroad at 42nd (where most people are getting off at). I would have appreciated if it didn't closely follow the Harlem line for most of its run, like operate via the BxM2 routing to Penn Station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 20 Share #532 Posted February 20 125 at Valhalla has been retired. 124 is the last active Orion short at Valhalla. 102: Delivered to Valhalla garage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBusLover1 Posted February 20 Share #533 Posted February 20 34 minutes ago, RSMG106 said: 125 at Valhalla has been retired. 124 is the last active Orion short at Valhalla. 102: Delivered to Valhalla garage. Too bad… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 22 Share #534 Posted February 22 124-125: Valhalla garage to PTLA Enterprise. There are no more Orion shorts at Valhalla. This leaves PTLA the last operator for Bee-Line to have the Orion shorts in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 22 Share #535 Posted February 22 17 hours ago, RSMG106 said: 124-125: Valhalla garage to PTLA Enterprise. There are no more Orion shorts at Valhalla. This leaves PTLA the last operator for Bee-Line to have the Orion shorts in service. I don't know where you are getting this information from, but 124 is still in service out of Valhalla. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 22 Author Share #536 Posted February 22 27 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: I don't know where you are getting this information from, but 124 is still in service out of Valhalla. 124 is scheduled to go to PTLA in the near future. The person who’s reporting it in a discord server is credible but needs to be more informative with when moves happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 23 Author Share #537 Posted February 23 So it has been confirmed that the BxM4c will be operated by any 400-500 series bus once all the Orion V suburban buses are gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted February 23 Share #538 Posted February 23 how long do the Orion Vs have? Gonna try and catch them next week or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40MntVrn Posted February 23 Share #539 Posted February 23 Any murmurs around the next Bee-Line operator? If memory serves, the deadline for the next operator or at least the final round is due in a few days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 24 Author Share #540 Posted February 24 5 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said: how long do the Orion Vs have? Gonna try and catch them next week or something. I would give it until the end of April. PTLA was suppose to get new XDE35's last month (some of the XDE35's had their DOT number) and then it was switched last minute. Maybe their garage is getting upgrades, idk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 24 Share #541 Posted February 24 10 hours ago, 40MntVrn said: Any murmurs around the next Bee-Line operator? If memory serves, the deadline for the next operator or at least the final round is due in a few days. Deadline was a few weeks ago. We'll find out in Late March/Early April. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Spire Posted February 26 Share #542 Posted February 26 On 2/24/2024 at 1:59 AM, Cait Sith said: Deadline was a few weeks ago. We'll find out in Late March/Early April. Are they going to actually get rid of Liberty Lines? Is Liberty Lines deciding to exit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted February 26 Share #543 Posted February 26 27 minutes ago, Robert Spire said: Are they going to actually get rid of Liberty Lines? Is Liberty Lines deciding to exit? ...or sell itself to someone else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Spire Posted February 27 Share #544 Posted February 27 (edited) 13 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: ...or sell itself to someone else? I would assume Westchester County will be cutting Liberty Lines a nice check as a result of this redesign and everything will be competitively bid with the redesigned routes. The Bernacchia family doesn't necessarily only do buses, they own restaurants too. https://riverjournalonline.com/around-town/dining-out-around-town/half-moon-restaurant-to-set-sail/839/ Edited February 27 by Robert Spire 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 27 Author Share #545 Posted February 27 I've been re-reading some of the redesign, and I can't fathom for the life of me why the 15 does this ridiculous loop in Yorktown... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 27 Author Share #546 Posted February 27 I also don't know if this was an error on their part, but between the 2022 and 2023 re-design they cut back the 19 from Katonah to Chappaqua, which itself is insane because the 19 actually carries along that portion. At that point, they should have just left the 6 designation for that portion of the 19. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 27 Share #547 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: I've been re-reading some of the redesign, and I can't fathom for the life of me why the 15 does this ridiculous loop in Yorktown... The part that forms the loop is the "downtown" sector of Yorktown Heights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 28 Author Share #548 Posted February 28 14 hours ago, B35 via Church said: The part that forms the loop is the "downtown" sector of Yorktown Heights. Ah I see, thanks. I recently got back from D.C on a flight to Westchester County Airport. The flight got in roughly ~15 minutes before the W12 bus comes to White Plains. The whole process went smooth, and among the almost fully booked flight, mostly everyone was heading to White Plains, yet only me and 4 other people actually got on the bus. The bus stop area isn't well designated, and I asked around while waiting for the bus and half the people didn't know there even was a bus to White Plains. Which makes me think, could the reason the Airlink and the W12 itself failed is because no one knows it even exists? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted March 5 Share #549 Posted March 5 120 at PTLA Enterprise has been retired. 126: Valhalla garage to PTLA Enterprise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted March 7 Share #550 Posted March 7 512 has entered service on the 14. 125: Valhalla garage to PTLA Enterprise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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