MTR Admiralty Posted December 14, 2008 Share #26 Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah, especially when it is like a real train and road car arrangement! Never feel like I am going to touch another people's body! ! The BMT Standards had similar seating arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 14, 2008 Share #27 Posted December 14, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 14, 2008 Share #28 Posted December 14, 2008 I feel, yeah... That is why the R-44, R-46 and R-68 is mostly on the BMT... IND and BMT South. The are purely IND. Those cars can't run on BMT East due to clearance issues () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 15, 2008 Share #29 Posted December 15, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitGuy Posted December 15, 2008 Share #30 Posted December 15, 2008 What I like best about the R44s and the R46s (as well as the hippos) is the seat arrangement. I LOVE the window seats! They're really comfy. I agree completely. The window seats are the best especially when you want to sleep or get a good view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 16, 2008 Share #31 Posted December 16, 2008 I agree completely. The window seats are the best especially when you want to sleep or get a good view. Yeah I know... like those seats are really designed for viewing out the window. And more seating capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R421969 Posted December 16, 2008 Share #32 Posted December 16, 2008 Not for me, im 6 ft. My knees hit the perpendicular seat infront, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 17, 2008 Share #33 Posted December 17, 2008 Not for me, im 6 ft. My knees hit the perpendicular seat infront, lmao Probably works for me, since I'm, eh, a shorty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted December 17, 2008 Share #34 Posted December 17, 2008 Oh, I love those seats. They make my day. Hey, is it just me, or does the R44 seem roomier than the R46? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 17, 2008 Share #35 Posted December 17, 2008 Oh, I love those seats. They make my day.Hey, is it just me, or does the R44 seem roomier than the R46? The spatial thing is not an issue of concern for me. Spatially speaking, they seem the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted December 17, 2008 Share #36 Posted December 17, 2008 R44 subway cars are good to stay on the , and shuttle at Rockaway Park. The R44 cars are still good, and they're still reliable, and very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 17, 2008 Share #37 Posted December 17, 2008 IND and BMT South. The are purely IND. Those cars can't run on BMT East due to clearance issues () It's because the BMT Eastern Division was built to handle 60' cars. The turns are way too sharp to handle 75' cars (Ex. Look at the turn the (J)/(Z) makes after leaving Crescent St going northbound and before it gets to Cypress Hills.) They did a test in the 70's before the R44/R46 came out. They cut a few R1's in half and extended it to 75' to see which lines can get the 44/46, including the Staten Island Railroad. If you go on nycsubway.org, and follow the link to the R1, tou will see pics of the extended R1's. I would put up pics, but I don't know how to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 18, 2008 Share #38 Posted December 18, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 Anthony Posted December 20, 2008 Share #39 Posted December 20, 2008 These are the worst trains in our system. They were the first trains that eliminated the railfan window and those annoying doorbells were placed. I hate the real loud noise they make at the last stop. They are louder than the other trains in our system. I hate that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted December 20, 2008 Share #40 Posted December 20, 2008 At least the R44 doesn't have screeching brakes like the R32. It's not perfect but it's not the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted December 20, 2008 Share #41 Posted December 20, 2008 These are the worst trains in our system. They were the first trains that eliminated the railfan window and those annoying doorbells were placed. I hate the real loud noise they make at the last stop. They are louder than the other trains in our system. I hate that sound. Live with it because now these days subway car don't built Railfan windows and nithier half cabs. The R68/R68A have half cabs and some full cabs but find a R68/R68A with a half cab in the first/last car and maybe you may railfan. I like the R44/R46/R68/R68A. There's other things then railfanning. The R44 will retire until there 40 years old and gets replaced by the R179 and possibly R46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted December 20, 2008 Share #42 Posted December 20, 2008 Live with it because now these days subway car don't built Railfan windows and nithier half cabs. The R68/R68A have half cabs and some full cabs but find a R68/R68A with a half cab in the first/last car and maybe you may railfan.I like the R44/R46/R68/R68A. There's other things then railfanning. The R44 will retire until there 40 years old and gets replaced by the R179 and possibly R46. They are not getting replace by no R-46's....only R-179's and thats it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted December 20, 2008 Share #43 Posted December 20, 2008 They are not getting replace by no R-46's....only R-179's and thats it! Wheat I meant is the the R179 may possibly replace R46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 20, 2008 Share #44 Posted December 20, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 20, 2008 Share #45 Posted December 20, 2008 It's because the BMT Eastern Division was built to handle 60' cars. The turns are way too sharp to handle 75' cars (Ex. Look at the turn the (J)/(Z) makes after leaving Crescent St going northbound and before it gets to Cypress Hills.) They did a test in the 70's before the R44/R46 came out. They cut a few R1's in half and extended it to 75' to see which lines can get the 44/46, including the Staten Island Railroad. If you go on nycsubway.org, and follow the link to the R1, tou will see pics of the extended R1's. I would put up pics, but I don't know how to. They were designed for wooden-el cars and pre-unification BMT equipment. The dimensions of the R types worked until they ordered the R44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 20, 2008 Share #46 Posted December 20, 2008 Yeah, I like those window seats since I can view outside without bothering people sitting by me. I also like it since it makes me feel like riding a commuter rail car, especially when going on Express service. I would say, hell no to the R44/46/68 retirement! I love, love, love those trains! Well, they have to go... someday. Those seats are the best. I was on the a couple of days to school. I fell aslept in one of those seats and almost forgot to wake up by my station. Such a great thing for someone who has 5 hrs of sleep every night. These are the worst trains in our system. They were the first trains that eliminated the railfan window and those annoying doorbells were placed. I hate the real loud noise they make at the last stop. They are louder than the other trains in our system. I hate that sound. Enough about the railfan window. It is really childish. From that point on, all trains have full width cabs. The purpose of riding the subway is not for the effing window, it is for transporting millions of people in and out. You should appreciate that there is a window, albeit smaller. In many European/Asian systems, there are none. Let's take the LU for example. The cab is almost isolated from the rest of the car. The motorman enters the cab thru a door on the outside. This is true for the MTR in Hong Kong (except the Disneyland Resort Line, which is automated). I think, the people who have an extreme infatuation with the RFW should get over it. I know the look out from the window is excellent, but it is very infantile for those people to wait hours for a SMEE, board at the front car and hog the RFW for hours to come. The cars are going to the ocean anyways, just get it over with. That is not the purpose of riding trains. You can't depreciate a certain class of cars, simply because they lack the "amenities" you want. If you don't like the design, too bad. The full-width cabs are for the people who operate the train, not for the people who hog the window. Not to break anyone's heart, but, the half width cabs put train crews at jeopardy for losing their lives. C/Rs must get out of the cab, lock it, cross to another car, unlock the cab there, get in, use it, get out, lock it, cross back, unlock the cab, get in... for the T/Os, this gives them more ample room in case something happens along the route. If say there is a crash, the T/O has a better chance escaping from the full width than say from a half width. At least the R44 doesn't have screeching brakes like the R32. It's not perfect but it's not the worst. Right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted December 20, 2008 Share #47 Posted December 20, 2008 These are the worst trains in our system. They were the first trains that eliminated the railfan window and those annoying doorbells were placed. Kexpress and MTR hit it right on the money, except for the fact that there will be no R68/A with a half-width cab in the motorman's position. The RFW isn't everything. And those "annoying doorbells"? They're there for safety reasons. If someone doesn't know that the doors are closing and they somehow get hurt, they can sue. Good luck trying to eliminate those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted December 20, 2008 Share #48 Posted December 20, 2008 Kexpress and MTR hit it right on the money, except for the fact that there will be no R68/A with a half-width cab in the motorman's position. The RFW isn't everything. And those "annoying doorbells"? They're there for safety reasons. If someone doesn't know that the doors are closing and they somehow get hurt, they can sue. Good luck trying to eliminate those. Ding-dong saved my life. Ding-dong saved New Yorkers' lives. If there was no ding-dong, you would probably end up in the ER because the door shut in your face and you stuck 3 or 4 fingers in the cap trying to get in. Now I never saw a R160A slice someone off before, I know from the door motor sound, that the doors are pretty menacing. If ding-dong never existed, the trains could serve as wonderful guillotines. Have fun riding the train, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted December 20, 2008 Share #49 Posted December 20, 2008 Live with it because now these days subway car don't built Railfan windows and nithier half cabs. The R68/R68A have half cabs and some full cabs but find a R68/R68A with a half cab in the first/last car and maybe you may railfan.I like the R44/R46/R68/R68A. There's other things then railfanning. The R44 will retire until there 40 years old and gets replaced by the R179 and possibly R46. i remember when i was about 3 or 4, some R68s had railfan windows and they were quite big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted December 20, 2008 Share #50 Posted December 20, 2008 Ding-dong saved my life.Ding-dong saved New Yorkers' lives. If there was no ding-dong, you would probably end up in the ER because the door shut in your face and you stuck 3 or 4 fingers in the cap trying to get in. Now I never saw a R160A slice someone off before, I know from the door motor sound, that the doors are pretty menacing. If ding-dong never existed, the trains could serve as wonderful guillotines. Have fun riding the train, then. Especially since the door motors on the R160Bs are silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.