sfnyc Posted April 15, 2009 Share #251 Posted April 15, 2009 thank you very much - the reason why i am asking is that i already work for the city in another agency and once i become a T/O i'd like know what options i'm going to get with my nycers (i believe i've got the 25/55 plan - "physically taxing" title) I work for the City also. You can create an on line account at the NYCERS web site and explore the elements of your plan. You can also go to NYCERS in downtown Brooklyn and pose your questions to a representative and they will answer it all for you. There may be special circumstances that affect you, but you won't know until you ask the questions. I have been down there twice and they are fast and very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 15, 2009 Share #252 Posted April 15, 2009 Didn't know we had other City Employees here. I thought I was the only one. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfnyc Posted April 16, 2009 Share #253 Posted April 16, 2009 Didn't know we had other City Employees here. I thought I was the only one. :cool: oh yeah....in and out of government since I was a senior in college many, many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 16, 2009 Share #254 Posted April 16, 2009 The only thing any of you should "study" is if you don't know how to do it and that's military time. Other than that, it's reading comprehension, basic math (ie if a route takes an hour, how many trains are needed to run 5 minute intervals), following directions, and common courtesy. There's no need to go nuts studying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOHopeful09 Posted April 16, 2009 Share #255 Posted April 16, 2009 I work for the City also. You can create an on line account at the NYCERS web site and explore the elements of your plan. You can also go to NYCERS in downtown Brooklyn and pose your questions to a representative and they will answer it all for you. There may be special circumstances that affect you, but you won't know until you ask the questions. I have been down there twice and they are fast and very helpful. You're right - the best info is at the source. Thanks! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahon Posted April 17, 2009 Share #256 Posted April 17, 2009 12 trains? The only thing any of you should "study" is if you don't know how to do it and that's military time. Other than that, it's reading comprehension, basic math (ie if a route takes an hour, how many trains are needed to run 5 minute intervals), following directions, and common courtesy. There's no need to go nuts studying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 17, 2009 Share #257 Posted April 17, 2009 12 trains? Yep there ya go. Repeat that about 15 times, ace your reading comprehension questions, ace your following directions questions, ace military time, and ace your common courtesy questions...and all you will have to worry about is the NYC geography questions, which are EXTREMELY basic and they even give you a map to look at. So if you can read a map you'll do fine. Do all that right and you're well on your way to a 97 or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted April 17, 2009 Share #258 Posted April 17, 2009 you're making it sound like the exam is broken down into reading comprehension, following directions, military time, and common courtesy. is this the way the exam is broken down? does anyone here have the green passbook from 2003? the first half is all questions about train operation, but then the second half is all reading comprehension. but its HARD reading comprehension! i dont know if copyright laws allow me to type the ones that i cant answer on here, but to me a lot of them are more inference/main idea questions than basic reading comprehension. i hope the test isnt too much like the questions in that book. i looked at the 2009 green passbook in the store and for some reason they dont put ANY reading comprehension questions so dont buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 17, 2009 Share #259 Posted April 17, 2009 you're making it sound like the exam is broken down into reading comprehension, following directions, military time, and common courtesy. is this the way the exam is broken down? does anyone here have the green passbook from 2003? the first half is all questions about train operation, but then the second half is all reading comprehension. but its HARD reading comprehension! i dont know if copyright laws allow me to type the ones that i cant answer on here, but to me a lot of them are more inference/main idea questions than basic reading comprehension. i hope the test isnt too much like the questions in that book. i looked at the 2009 green passbook in the store and for some reason they dont put ANY reading comprehension questions so dont buy it. It's a open competitive exam, they won't be asking questions regarding operating trains since they can't expect people to know. Should be like the C/R exam that we took back in December, which was just that, reading comprehension, following directions, military time, and common courtesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted April 17, 2009 Share #260 Posted April 17, 2009 no, you're not listening to me. i KNOW that its not gonna be about train operation. so i totally ripped out the first half of the 2003 green passbook. but the second half is reading comprehension. but its HARD reading comprehension. like there was one passage about the bus air suspension system. it goes on about axles, bellows, pistons, shock absorbers, and all sorts of parts. its still under the understanding written materials part because everything it asks about is still in the passage. but if you dont know anything about engineering or automobiles, its VERY HARD to visualize whats going on here. now, is that a typical sort of thing they have had on the 2000 and 2003 open competitive exams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 17, 2009 Share #261 Posted April 17, 2009 no, you're not listening to me. i KNOW that its not gonna be about train operation. so i totally ripped out the first half of the 2003 green passbook. but the second half is reading comprehension. but its HARD reading comprehension. like there was one passage about the bus air suspension system. it goes on about axles, bellows, pistons, shock absorbers, and all sorts of parts. its still under the understanding written materials part because everything it asks about is still in the passage. but if you dont know anything about engineering or automobiles, its VERY HARD to visualize whats going on here. now, is that a typical sort of thing they have had on the 2000 and 2003 open competitive exams?If you have the 2004 C/R Passbook, the questions on the C/R exam we took back in December is on par with the difficulty of the questions in the 2004 C/R Passbook. The questions weren't as complicated as that example you used. I don't remember this question from the exam that well but on of the questions, they stated a TA rule, for example how T/Os are only to use the horn to communicate with the C/R or other crew members on the tracks or platforms. They then did a 2 sentence description of how a T/O on a train honked the horn at someone he knew on the platform and asked you if the T/O broke the rule or not, followed by 4 multiple choice answers that ranged from no, the T/O didnt break the rule because of such and such reason to yes, the T/O broke the rule since it's for communicating information between other TA employees. The questions would be on par with that difficulty curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearster Posted April 26, 2009 Share #262 Posted April 26, 2009 Hi I was wondering did the former T/O test had any grammer question? Such as how many grammer mistakes you can find in this sentence or any other sort of grammer related questions. This seems to be a problem for me. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 26, 2009 Share #263 Posted April 26, 2009 Hi I was wondering did the former T/O test had any grammer question? Such as how many grammer mistakes you can find in this sentence or any other sort of grammer related questions. This seems to be a problem for me. Thanks None of the civil service tests that I have ever taken have had those kind of questions. The T/O test is alot of reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfnyc Posted April 26, 2009 Share #264 Posted April 26, 2009 The two most recent Civil Service exams that I took--Caseworker (yesterday) and Job Opportunity Specialist in January--had a few grammar questions. Usually, there is a sentence written and you have to choose an answer that is the correct way of writing that sentence. For instance, there was a question that included the use of "their", "they're" and "there". Another question looked for your ability to identify agreement of verb tenses (singular vs. plural, present vs. past). Of course, these are entry level positions that require a Bachelor's degree as a minimum requirement. If there are any questions pertaining to grammar, they would be of that variety and only two or three at the most. Incidentally, I took those exams only to have a permanent back up CS title should anything ever happen to me as a manager (as it did in the mid 90s). My permanent CS title saved me then from complete unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted April 26, 2009 Share #265 Posted April 26, 2009 Hi I was wondering did the former T/O test had any grammer question? Such as how many grammer mistakes you can find in this sentence or any other sort of grammer related questions. This seems to be a problem for me. Thanks Rules and Regulations. Read the paragraph and answer the question. That's it. No tricks......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearster Posted April 26, 2009 Share #266 Posted April 26, 2009 How about math questions? such as finding X or fraction questions? thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted April 28, 2009 Share #267 Posted April 28, 2009 How about math questions? such as finding X or fraction questions? thanks again Clock math - you must be able to add hours and minutes, convert minutes to hours and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted April 28, 2009 Share #268 Posted April 28, 2009 how about minutes to units? ex. 60 minutes = 100 units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 28, 2009 Share #269 Posted April 28, 2009 What is the oldest student in school car that you guys have seen or heard of? is there a certain mandatory retirement age for a T/O? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 28, 2009 Share #270 Posted April 28, 2009 What is the oldest student in school car that you guys have seen or heard of? is there a certain mandatory retirement age for a T/O? There is no mandatory retirement age for T/O the number one guy has been on the job since 1966 and has been in title since 1969. Since they started the open competetive T/O's I see ALOT of old guys just starting out. Guys that retired from other jobs already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 29, 2009 Share #271 Posted April 29, 2009 I had heard of a guy who was about 65 or so who took the test, passed school car and quit after spending about 1 week on the road. He wanted to be a T/O all his life and had his fun and was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 29, 2009 Share #272 Posted April 29, 2009 I had heard of a guy who was about 65 or so who took the test, passed school car and quit after spending about 1 week on the road. He wanted to be a T/O all his life and had his fun and was done. I knew a guy who came down here on the first open competetive test after he already retired from the post office and was collecting social security. He did 5 years to get vested in our pension and retired last year. He was a miserable bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 29, 2009 Share #273 Posted April 29, 2009 There is no mandatory retirement age for T/O the number one guy has been on the job since 1966 and has been in title since 1969. Since they started the open competetive T/O's I see ALOT of old guys just starting out. Guys that retired from other jobs already. They should let us young guys give it a crack at it. Would be cheaper for the MTA to higher younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted April 29, 2009 Share #274 Posted April 29, 2009 They should let us young guys give it a crack at it. Would be cheaper for the MTA to higher younger. It would only be cheaper if the new pension tier goes into effect. Then the new guys will get much less benefits and have to work longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfnyc Posted April 29, 2009 Share #275 Posted April 29, 2009 Any organization would want to minimize the attrition of new hires as they invest a lot of money in training that individual. Certainly younger workers would stay longer, but there is no guarantee of that. I am curious about the guy who is #1 as T/O. What does he pick for his assignments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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