R32 3838 Posted January 11, 2012 Share #326 Posted January 11, 2012 I heard January...and I'm still waiting! Or was it the R142A/R188? ..................... Can't you just wait geez, and No Its Febuary or whenever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted January 11, 2012 Share #327 Posted January 11, 2012 Here's an idea: when a tentative date comes and goes without any new information, assume the date was pushed back again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted January 22, 2012 Share #328 Posted January 22, 2012 WOW! Really? The MTA's original plan was to have 179s on SIR. 46s are only 2 years younger that the 44s. Do they really expect the 46s to last that long? SI hasnt seen new cars since the 44s in 1973! They also have to modify what, approximately 90 cars to FRA standards and cab signaling? I dont see them lasting that long. Theyre already 36 years old! R179s on the SIR!? Where did you hear that? That would be a waste of good train. Plus the SIR would be better off with R46s anyways. They could really use them. SIR is not going to get any NTTs until maybe 2025-2030. It is supposed to get some of the leftovers that are not needed because of NTTs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted January 22, 2012 Share #329 Posted January 22, 2012 R179s on the SIR!? Where did you hear that? That would be a waste of good train. Plus the SIR would be better off with R46s anyways. They could really use them. SIR is not going to get any NTTs until maybe 2025-2030. It is supposed to get some of the leftovers that are not needed because of NTTs. someone's late to the party. lol if you go to earlier pages of this thread, youll find links to pdf's of mta procurement and capital budget documents from as far back as around 09 where the plans for 179s includes a few for SIR. it has gone from a definate, to a no, to an option. and as far as your timeline for NTTs in SI, i personally find that unrealistic as im sure residents and commuters will as always cause an upraor about no new trains. those 46s althought still a good fleet (im actually on one right now passing JFK), will be 40 when a few get retrofitted for SIR. which will make them 50. Theyre not R32s. i expect the 179 option to go thru. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted January 22, 2012 Share #330 Posted January 22, 2012 But that was before the R44s were replaced on the mainline. I think the plan is for the SIR to receive converted R46s and run those until the delivery of the R211. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted January 22, 2012 Share #331 Posted January 22, 2012 That also depends on when they get around to ordering said R179s. For instance, if they aren't ordered for several more years (I hope not), it would make much more sense to order enough for the mainline and the SIR as the R46s would be reaching the end of their nominal lifespans. Then again, it is the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted January 22, 2012 Share #332 Posted January 22, 2012 But that was before the R44s were replaced on the mainline. I think the plan is for the SIR to receive converted R46s and run those until the delivery of the R211. if you look at East New York's post at the beginning of the last page, it was clarified that some of the 179 option order that may not get used till 2014 would most likely got to SI. the current plan is to use 46s and possibly some 179s. i consider ENY a major reliable source of correct info. lets focus on the 179 contract before we jump to 211s which hasnt even been put on the planning table yet. 211 is just a contract number that for now is reserved for a revenue fleet. and if we all remember,179s were to replace the 44s if the 44s were to last. because they were already retired, heres now a gap which cause them, as well as it being cheaper, to plan to use 46s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted January 23, 2012 Share #333 Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Post deleted......need to control my anger but nobody should talk to me that way Edited January 23, 2012 by alejr88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted January 24, 2012 Share #334 Posted January 24, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted January 24, 2012 Share #335 Posted January 24, 2012 I don't think the R32s have that much life in them, even with the SMS, to last another decade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted January 24, 2012 Share #336 Posted January 24, 2012 i agree. as much as i love the 32s, theyve been around about half a century. a testament to its design and construction. i say 6 years is even stretchin it. PATCO is currently rebuilding their fleet which is around the same age if not older. but they have the capital to pay for a complete rebuilt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted January 24, 2012 Share #337 Posted January 24, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted January 24, 2012 Share #338 Posted January 24, 2012 Man the MTA keeps procrastinating this order. I think they should extend the R32s life span for another 10 years in case this keeps up. Taken from Subchat. For anyone wondering where this is from, Latest updates: R-179 order saga, R-160 CBTC for line & special reports ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 26, 2012 Share #339 Posted January 26, 2012 At this point, wouldn't it be a good idea just to merge this with the R211 order? Then they could retire the 32s, 42s & 46s in one shot and with one car class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted January 26, 2012 Share #340 Posted January 26, 2012 At this point, wouldn't it be a good idea just to merge this with the R211 order? Then they could retire the 32s, 42s & 46s in one shot and with one car class. R211s? I guess I am super late to the party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted January 26, 2012 Share #341 Posted January 26, 2012 R211s? I guess I am super late to the party. yep lol.... do some digging around the MTA website and you'll find the documents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted January 26, 2012 Share #342 Posted January 26, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted January 26, 2012 Share #343 Posted January 26, 2012 At this point, wouldn't it be a good idea just to merge this with the R211 order? Then they could retire the 32s, 42s & 46s in one shot and with one car class. might ass well , soo the 179 was just to retire all the 32s ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted January 26, 2012 Share #344 Posted January 26, 2012 At this point, wouldn't it be a good idea just to merge this with the R211 order? Then they could retire the 32s, 42s & 46s in one shot and with one car class. might ass well , soo the 179s was just to retire all the 32s ?? cause the 42s i believe are covered by 160s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted January 26, 2012 Share #345 Posted January 26, 2012 might ass well , soo the 179s was just to retire all the 32s ?? cause the 42s i believe are covered by 160s if i remember the pdfs ive read on the 179s, they were also to replace the 44s if they didnt get retired early. as knowing the mta's lack of common sense, theyll probably push back the next contract after 179 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted February 20, 2012 Share #346 Posted February 20, 2012 Are the 179's also supposed to retire the 46'es? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #347 Posted February 20, 2012 No, not currently. At present, the R179s are slated to only replace the R32s and R42s. Those plans are tentative though, so anything is still possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share #348 Posted February 26, 2012 Are the 179's also supposed to retire the 46'es? :confused: 46's are going to Staten Island. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 27, 2012 Share #349 Posted February 27, 2012 46's are going to Staten Island. yeah that retrofit contract won't be awarded until january 2013, , pushed it back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djreelz Posted February 27, 2012 Share #350 Posted February 27, 2012 Oh man, now everybody's talkin' bout these piece of shit 179's. this system has gone down the drain, nothing is good about it anymore except the remaining Vintage cars. once those are gone, I will say farewell to N.Y.C.T cuz i ain't fanin' no more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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