St Louis Car 09 Posted February 27, 2011 Share #51 Posted February 27, 2011 Bombardier's Barre Vermont plant has long been closedReally? Since when? I only heard of the Auburn N.Y plant closing a few years ago.I guess Plattsburgh is the Main U.S site.SMH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted February 27, 2011 Share #52 Posted February 27, 2011 Really? Since when? I only heard of the Auburn N.Y plant closing a few years ago.I guess Plattsburgh is the Main U.S site.SMH. IIRC after the Acela order it closed down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manrush Posted February 27, 2011 Share #53 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Those things sure are beautiful But 3 doors means less seating and A LOT of people travel with LIRR daily and some lines already have a lof of standing people, so to have even less seating, seems a terrible idea to me. I think the manufacturer will be Bombardier again. They built the current M7's for the LIRR and the MTA and most passengers are loving them (the M7's). More doors equals better movement of people in and out of the train, thus leading to less idling at the station. Additionally, less seating and more standing room would increase capacity on any given train and reduce overcrowding. A good seating arrangement would be one similar to Australia's suburban EMUs. Queensland Rail Citytrain Interurban Multiple Unit (for commuting between Brisbane and Gold Coast). http://home.people.net.au/~jimmy88/Transport/IMU162/DSC00555%20with%20tag.JPG http://ufies.org/~aleith/transit/brisbane/imu110_241004.jpg Edited February 27, 2011 by manrush 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted February 27, 2011 Share #54 Posted February 27, 2011 Good seating arrangement is good there now. LIRR is the only commuter railroad I know (besides SEPTA) to have 3+2 arrangement, especially compared to Europe where nothing is 3+2 on commuter railroads. "Additionally, less seating and more standing room would increase capacity on any given train and reduce overcrowding." If you're travelling a short distance, alright. But let's say you get in in Ronkonkoma in rush hour and you need to go to Penn. Rnkkm is crowded in rush hour and with less seats, you may not find a seat. So that means you would be standing the whole time. I bet you can't barely walk when you exit at Penn. And that is only 1 branch, but there are several other crowded ones where you would have the same problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manrush Posted February 27, 2011 Share #55 Posted February 27, 2011 Good seating arrangement is good there now. LIRR is the only commuter railroad I know (besides SEPTA) to have 3+2 arrangement, especially compared to Europe where nothing is 3+2 on commuter railroads. "Additionally, less seating and more standing room would increase capacity on any given train and reduce overcrowding." If you're travelling a short distance, alright. But let's say you get in in Ronkonkoma in rush hour and you need to go to Penn. Rnkkm is crowded in rush hour and with less seats, you may not find a seat. So that means you would be standing the whole time. I bet you can't barely walk when you exit at Penn. And that is only 1 branch, but there are several other crowded ones where you would have the same problem. Actually, MBCR also has a 3+2 seating arrangement. Capacity is just as important for longer distances. Express lines could use the extra space so that more people would be able to board, thus reducing the need for extra-long trains and increasing overall headway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted February 28, 2011 Share #56 Posted February 28, 2011 Leave the Door Situation at 2 ,Since it takes seating away 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave160 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #57 Posted March 6, 2011 *double post* Disregard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave160 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #58 Posted March 6, 2011 I was talking with a car designer for LIRR last night coming home on the M8's who's in the process of developing the M-9's (He also helped develop the M7's.) IIRC Correctly he said something about schematics have being sent to Kawasaki for the M9, so there you go. And as stated before, they will look like the M7/8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego606 Posted August 12, 2011 Share #59 Posted August 12, 2011 Why does the LIRR always get the castoffs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 12, 2011 Share #60 Posted August 12, 2011 bring back the door closing bell from teh M1/3! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted August 12, 2011 Share #61 Posted August 12, 2011 As long as they don't ride like the M7, I'm good. That annoying noisy propulsion could be done away with, too. At least something from Siemens or even better, a quiet propulsion like they have on the M3s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 13, 2011 Share #62 Posted August 13, 2011 M3 has "quiet" propulsion system because it's DC (GE SCM). AC traction involves a frequency change that will resonate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted August 13, 2011 Share #63 Posted August 13, 2011 As long as they don't ride like the M7, I'm good. That annoying noisy propulsion could be done away with, too. At least something from Siemens or even better, a quiet propulsion like they have on the M3s. The M7 does ride horribly, never been on the M8 so I can't compare. The propulsion is OK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 3, 2011 Author Share #64 Posted November 3, 2011 I'm now being told that the M9 award will be going to Bombardier as I originally expected!:cool: Award expected August 2012. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted November 3, 2011 Share #65 Posted November 3, 2011 I think instead of the boring Red LEDs they have on M7s, they shoul have it so it can change colors depending on the rout it takes! Ex. instead of reading Babylon, it could read Babylon! ... They should also have comfy M3 seats instead of horrible rock M7 seats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted February 15, 2012 Share #66 Posted February 15, 2012 I hope they don't have those wide single side doors that the M7s and M8s have. Those damn things take forever to open, close and secure. What idiot at the MTA thought that was a good idea? I hope the M9s have double doors that meet in the middle of the doorway, like the M1/2/3/4/6 series had. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted February 25, 2012 Share #67 Posted February 25, 2012 I think instead of the boring Red LEDs they have on M7s, they shoul have it so it can change colors depending on the rout it takes!Ex. instead of reading Babylon, it could read Babylon! ... They should also have comfy M3 seats instead of horrible rock M7 seats. but it should also have head rests;) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share #68 Posted February 29, 2012 Contract award delayed, and now expected for March 2013. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 4, 2012 Share #69 Posted June 4, 2012 I guess why many people say the front of the M8 is ugly is because of the black and red, which IMO does not go together like that. Stripped maybe. If the whole thing was red then people wouldn't talk about it so much. Just my takes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 15, 2012 Share #70 Posted June 15, 2012 I just noticed there will also be an M9A order for the Metro-North. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted June 20, 2012 Share #71 Posted June 20, 2012 I just noticed there will also be an M9A order for the Metro-North. It's going to be a small minor batch, it's not going to be as extensive as the M7A order, the LIRR order is smaller than the M7 order but larger than the M9A one. But both M9/9A orders will be noticeable in a larger scale if there is a design change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 29, 2012 Share #72 Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) I'm surprised no one has posted this yet. I just found it and haven't gotten around to reading the documentation yet. http://mta.info/lirr...rrentStatus.htm http://mta.info/lirr...9/Documents.htm It's going to be a small minor batch, it's not going to be as extensive as the M7A order, the LIRR order is smaller than the M7 order but larger than the M9A one. But both M9/9A orders will be noticeable in a larger scale if there is a design change. According to the documentation from the MTA website, they are interested in procuring "676 M-9 and 160 M-9A" cars. Edited June 29, 2012 by Fan Railer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 1, 2012 Share #73 Posted July 1, 2012 (edited) Expected in 2016? Come on... I want to see LI's new trains! Edited July 1, 2012 by VWM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted July 4, 2012 Share #74 Posted July 4, 2012 I'm surprised no one has posted this yet. I just found it and haven't gotten around to reading the documentation yet. http://mta.info/lirr...rrentStatus.htm http://mta.info/lirr...9/Documents.htm According to the documentation from the MTA website, they are interested in procuring "676 M-9 and 160 M-9A" cars. Well, like I said, compared to the M-7/M-7A's... Standalone, it's pretty big! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 6, 2012 Share #75 Posted July 6, 2012 The M7 does ride horribly, never been on the M8 so I can't compare. The propulsion is OK. The M8s don't ride that much better, imo. And the truck design is similar, so there's that constant noise that leads to the belief that something's loose down there. Hope they fix that with the M9s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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