ScreechyFlange Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5976 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) This man is correct. The switches to the 6 Avenue line south of West 4 Street. East of Broadway–Lafayette, the switches again to Essex Street by traversing the Chrystie cut. (And damn. I rushed here to post, but he beat me to it.) Better luck next time rookie . the for the detailed response tho.Thx* Edited March 17, 2014 by ScreechyFlange 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5977 Posted March 17, 2014 Something wasn't right this morning. When I got to Euclid around 8:20 AM there was an on the express track NIS with FDNY activity in the front (lead car 5840). Someone said a C had sparked along the track aswell all the way to Euclid. The entire station smelled of burned rubber and was smokey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5978 Posted March 17, 2014 Let me put it this way - everything that COULD have gone wrong in the IND Manhattan/Brooklyn this morning, DID go wrong. After asking around with some co-workers, I found out that today was straight out Murphy's Law on the railroad. If I went into greater detail I might be guilty of some company rule violations, so I'll leave it at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5979 Posted March 17, 2014 via the to Essex? How does it turn around? Wouldn't it have to go onto the Williamsburg and then reverse back to the Broad St bound track? Wouldn't that screw up service as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5980 Posted March 17, 2014 Oh OK. If they don't stay on the where would they go. If they go on the it will have the same problem as they did on the . Maybe the could give all their R142A's to the 6 and they both get the R62A's so they both could be split NTT and R62A. The other only line for the R62As to go to is the , you can keep the Led lights but it would be pointless , in the case that they would go to the the leds would be removed,, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted March 17, 2014 Share #5981 Posted March 17, 2014 They wouldn't be removed. They can easily be turned off by dropping the circuit breaker in each car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted March 18, 2014 Share #5982 Posted March 18, 2014 Like I said numerous times they're not gonna last long on the , they can't handle the load like in the past, I don't see what's so damn hard to give the R142's from somewhere else and place the R62A's elsewhere They handle the load just fine. The capacity difference between an R62A and an R142 is negligible. And if it weren't, then the 6 would certainly be the best place for the R62A's, since the 2, 4, and 5 all see heavier loading than the 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted March 18, 2014 Share #5983 Posted March 18, 2014 Well, the express bus cost more than twice the revenue of the subway, so one fare would be about 2 people. More fares would come in (given the current service stays the same). Also, the northern parts of the have 3 express bus routes (the BM1/BM3/BM4) and the BM2 if you were to tie that in. But the current service wouldn't stay the same as soon as loads increased beyond 20 per bus - the off-peak guideline load for hourly express bus service. Additional buses would have to be added. Based on 2010 numbers - On Saturdays, the BM1 carries an average of 7 riders per bus, at a cost of $33.82 per passenger. If more than 13 additional riders per hour were to shift to the BM1, more buses would be added. On Saturdays, the BM2 carries an average of 7 riders per bus, at a cost of $30.03 per passenger. If more than 13 additional riders per hour were to shift to the BM2, more buses would be added. On Saturdays, the BM3 carries an average of 7 riders per bus, at a cost of $35.01 per passenger. If more than 13 additional riders per hour were to shift to the BM3, more buses would be added. On Saturdays, the BM4 carries an average of 3 riders per bus, at a cost of $74.82 per passenger. If more than 17 additional riders per hour were to shift to the BM4, more buses would be added. Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aha-LfXMlWNBdHd4QkhLRF92cURWNWdSbzNfSjJwWWc&hl=en#gid=1 Those four express buses, combined, can take on 56 additional riders per hour, per direction, if the goal is to avoid having to add more express bus service. That's a diversion of less than one person per Q train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 18, 2014 Share #5984 Posted March 18, 2014 They handle the load just fine. The capacity difference between an R62A and an R142 is negligible. And if it weren't, then the 6 would certainly be the best place for the R62A's, since the 2, 4, and 5 all see heavier loading than the 6. The capacity difference is close to negligible (I'd be careful to say it truly is), but the difference in loading times is pronounced. My daily commute (11 stops) is between three and four minutes longer in travel time whenever an R62A is used, generally running a few minutes late at the same time. While it's anecdotal, the number of times I've taken the trip and timed the travel means my data isn't that terrible when we ignore the outliers, and R62As are indeed slower in the morning rush. It's not the capacity, it's the loading times with the 4" narrower doors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5985 Posted March 19, 2014 http://gothamist.com/2014/03/18/subway_etiquette_the_leaner.php 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5986 Posted March 19, 2014 The capacity difference is close to negligible (I'd be careful to say it truly is), but the difference in loading times is pronounced. My daily commute (11 stops) is between three and four minutes longer in travel time whenever an R62A is used, generally running a few minutes late at the same time. While it's anecdotal, the number of times I've taken the trip and timed the travel means my data isn't that terrible when we ignore the outliers, and R62As are indeed slower in the morning rush. It's not the capacity, it's the loading times with the 4" narrower doors. I don't ride the 6 as often as you do - typically a few times a week, both rush hours and off-peak - and I haven't noticed any trend of the sort. Besides, if the R62A's really add 3-4 minutes to the running time on a line that runs every 2.5 minutes, then you'd also encounter some of the slowdown if you're on the R142A behind it. I'm not dismissing your observations, but I doubt it's as bad as you're making it out to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5987 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) The capacity difference is close to negligible (I'd be careful to say it truly is), but the difference in loading times is pronounced. My daily commute (11 stops) is between three and four minutes longer in travel time whenever an R62A is used, generally running a few minutes late at the same time. While it's anecdotal, the number of times I've taken the trip and timed the travel means my data isn't that terrible when we ignore the outliers, and R62As are indeed slower in the morning rush. It's not the capacity, it's the loading times with the 4" narrower doors. I ride the almost every single day and 98% of the time I always get an R62A , its not as bad as you make it seem man , there are always delays when it comes to loading , doesn't matter if you are on a R62A or R142A , but that is nothing that we can't handle , It wont hurt to have to wait 3-5 minutes more in your commute. Edited March 19, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5988 Posted March 19, 2014 I don't ride the 6 as often as you do - typically a few times a week, both rush hours and off-peak - and I haven't noticed any trend of the sort. Besides, if the R62A's really add 3-4 minutes to the running time on a line that runs every 2.5 minutes, then you'd also encounter some of the slowdown if you're on the R142A behind it. I'm not dismissing your observations, but I doubt it's as bad as you're making it out to be. That type of slowdown is exactly what occurs. Here's the nitty-gritty: My Parkchester-bound is scheduled to arrive at my home stop at 7:38 AM, which generally occurs with an R142A. The next train (Pelham Bay Park) comes at 7:41. This has been the setup for a few years. When an R62A runs, the 7:38 PC train comes in at 7:41, runs a few more minutes late during the trip, and then goes express. The 7:41 R142A PBP is right behind that train the entire time. It's not uncommon to arrive at a station on the late PC R62A to hear the "approaching the station" announcement in reference to the 7:41 PBP train running barely a full length behind. The 7:38 PC is always sent express after a few stops, and in that time the gap in service is fixed, especially as the load gets lighter into the Bronx. If your trip is one-two stops, the delay is marginal; two, three minutes. If your trip is twenty stops, there's no delay due to the skip. If your trip is five to ten stops and you get off at an express stop, the delay is about four to five minutes. If your trip is five to ten stops and you get off at a skipped local stop, the delay is seven to eight minutes. I'm one of those people getting off at a skipped station, and I went from getting to the stop at 7:58 to getting to the stop at 8:05. It's a pain, and while the solution is simple (get up earlier), it's still a problem that's annoying to see exist having never existed before. It seems like the TA took note, however, because the R62A is now running on the 7:35 PBP train and the 7:38 PC is back to being an R142A after a few weeks of the switch. I've been getting in at 7:58 again, so my bitching can take a break for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediccjh Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5989 Posted March 19, 2014 Let me put it this way - everything that COULD have gone wrong in the IND Manhattan/Brooklyn this morning, DID go wrong. After asking around with some co-workers, I found out that today was straight out Murphy's Law on the railroad. If I went into greater detail I might be guilty of some company rule violations, so I'll leave it at that. Well, it was St. Patrick's Day, and Murphy was an optimist.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKorean Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5990 Posted March 19, 2014 Does anyone know what they are doing between Avenue H and Kings Highway on Coney Island side? I dont see any workers there. There has to be some kind of repair going on though, i know that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5991 Posted March 19, 2014 Work may be happening at Parkside through Cortelyou on the local track. Since there are no switches at Newkirk Plaza, trains must run express through Kings Hwy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5992 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Question. I want to take the Express Bus to school today, but I have a regular unlimited metrocard. HOWEVER. I have about 41 buck on the same card. Will the farebox deduct the money or just reject the card altogether because it's not the express bus plus card? It should deduct the money... If no money is on there it would simply reject the card. I've seen this happen on a number of occasions with people trying to use regular unlimited Metrocards on the express bus. I also don't get what part of drop-off only don't people understand? They try to board express buses when they know they don't pick up, nor do they pay attention to the $6.00 fare... Smh Edited March 19, 2014 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5993 Posted March 19, 2014 Does anyone know what they are doing between Avenue H and Kings Highway on Coney Island side? I dont see any workers there. There has to be some kind of repair going on though, i know that. I was watching the news this morning and apparently there was a car that plowed over some fencing and landed on a Coney Island bound R160 train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5994 Posted March 19, 2014 I love the train and its shorten version so much that I never want to stop being a daily rider on the aforementioned line. I usually fan the entire 8th Avenue/Fulton Street/Rockaway side of town after school. Oh, I realized the timers that used to be at Beach 60th Street were just for track work, track maintenance etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5995 Posted March 19, 2014 I think it was 3682 that I saw today with the rollsigns all messed up, either that one has turnhandles or somebody messed around. Also saw an R160 set on the E that must have been absolutely bombed with graffiti as there were about three cars totally covered in acid stains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5996 Posted March 19, 2014 I think it was 3682 that I saw today with the rollsigns all messed up, either that one has turnhandles or somebody messed around. Also saw an R160 set on the E that must have been absolutely bombed with graffiti as there were about three cars totally covered in acid stains. What combination was the result of this messing around of the rollsign? Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5997 Posted March 19, 2014 What combination was the result of this messing around of the rollsign? Using Tapatalk Southern terminal was the WTC, line was the (X) bullet, didn't catch the northern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5998 Posted March 19, 2014 Ha, I sure want to get my own rollsign for that reason, but rollsigns vary including the rare F Avenue of the Americas Local reading. It was posted on the forums long before I came on. Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #5999 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Ha, I sure want to get my own rollsign for that reason, but rollsigns vary including the rare F Avenue of the Americas Local reading. It was posted on the forums long before I came on. Using Tapatalk Any of the R27-R30 rollsigns showed that reading, but only a couple of R32s have them. 3807 has one of those rollsigns, as do 3510-3511 (garbage cars). I believe 3380-3381 have them too. Here, I caught these at 207th earlier in the year. Very historic signage setup: 3511 is set as: 168 St Manhattan - World Trade Center - 8 Avenue Local 3510 is set as: 57 St / 7 Av Manhattan - Stillwell Av Coney Island - (Yellow D) Broadway Brighton Edited March 19, 2014 by MHV9218 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 19, 2014 Share #6000 Posted March 19, 2014 Ha, I sure want to get my own rollsign for that reason, but rollsigns vary including the rare F Avenue of the Americas Local reading. It was posted on the forums long before I came on. Using Tapatalk Any of the R27-R30 rollsigns showed that reading, but only a couple of R32s have them. 3807 has one of those rollsigns, as do 3510-3511 (garbage cars). I believe 3380-3381 have them too. Here, I caught these at 207th earlier in the year. Very historic signage setup: 3511 is set as: 168 St Manhattan - World Trade Center - 8 Avenue Local 3510 is set as: 57 St / 7 Av Manhattan - Stillwell Av Coney Island - (Yellow D) Broadway Brighton Great catch and Now I really want to go and get one of the rollsigns when the MTA sells them. Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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