Eric B Posted December 14, 2014 Share #2526 Posted December 14, 2014 Wow, if it collapses... This is what you have to think about when keeping old els, or maybe just els in general. They're demolishing it. The shutdown is just so it doesn't collapse on the demolition crew, who I imagine should be finished by after tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted December 14, 2014 Share #2527 Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Will this mean a long term shutdown? Or can they demolish and rebuild an el in literally a weekend? Edit: Just realized that they're demolishing the building and not the el. Silly me. Edited December 14, 2014 by P3F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 17, 2014 Share #2528 Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Service Change Posted: 12/17/2014 6:02PM Due to FDNY activity at Jamaica Center-Parson/Archer, the following service changes are in effect: trains are running with delays in both directions. Some Jamaica Center-bound trains terminate at Broadway Junction. Allow additional travel time. Why not short turn trains at 111 Street instead of Broadway Junction? That way, riders have a choice of the Q10 bus to/from 121 Street, Sutphin Blvd, and Jamaica Center. No need to inconvenience the customers further. Edit: Another update. Delays Posted: 12/17/2014 6:18PM Following an earlier incident at Jamaica Center-Parson/Archer, train service has resumed with residual delays. Edited December 17, 2014 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 17, 2014 Share #2529 Posted December 17, 2014 Service Change Posted: 12/17/2014 6:40PM Due to a train with mechanical problems at Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall, northbound and trains are running with delays. Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 17, 2014 Share #2530 Posted December 17, 2014 Service Change Posted: 12/17/2014 6:02PM Due to FDNY activity at Jamaica Center-Parson/Archer, the following service changes are in effect: trains are running with delays in both directions. Some Jamaica Center-bound trains terminate at Broadway Junction. Allow additional travel time. Why not short turn trains at 111 Street instead of Broadway Junction? That way, riders have a choice of the Q10 bus to/from 121 Street, Sutphin Blvd, and Jamaica Center. No need to inconvenience the customers further. Edit: Another update. Delays Posted: 12/17/2014 6:18PM Following an earlier incident at Jamaica Center-Parson/Archer, train service has resumed with residual delays. The layups might have already been at 111th by the time the disruption started, also they don't have to fumigate the train at Broadway Junction. And J riders have the LIRR, Q24 and 56 at Broadway Junction.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2531 Posted December 18, 2014 The layups might have already been at 111th by the time the disruption started, also they don't have to fumigate the train at Broadway Junction. And J riders have the LIRR, Q24 and 56 at Broadway Junction.. Except you have to take the one stop to Atlantic Avenue to get to the Broadway Junction LIRR station and then you need the LIRR to honor MetroCard between there and Jamaica. What probably should have been done here was if possible to have a split , with the main line terminating at Broadway Junction while a shuttle train operated between Broadway Junction and 111th Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2532 Posted December 18, 2014 Except you have to take the one stop to Atlantic Avenue to get to the Broadway Junction LIRR station and then you need the LIRR to honor MetroCard between there and Jamaica. What probably should have been done here was if possible to have a split , with the main line terminating at Broadway Junction while a shuttle train operated between Broadway Junction and 111th Street. Clearly, the MTA should have kept the extra tracks at Atlantic Avenue so that could run and trains from through Broadway Junction to Atlantic Avenue for an LIRR connection to Jamaica station. The extra tracks would be relatively isolated from the Canarsie line's CBTC-equipped tracks to not disturb trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2533 Posted December 18, 2014 Except you have to take the one stop to Atlantic Avenue to get to the Broadway Junction LIRR station and then you need the LIRR to honor MetroCard between there and Jamaica. What probably should have been done here was if possible to have a split , with the main line terminating at Broadway Junction while a shuttle train operated between Broadway Junction and 111th Street. The LIRR ENY station is within walking distance of Broadway Junction, some A and C line C/R's even announce it as a transfer at Broadway Junction. And a shuttle train between those two stops during rush hour is a bad idea, SRO to the point people would get left behind on the platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2534 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) 12-9, unfortunately seems to be a fatal one... Service Change Posted: 12/18/2014 1:10PM Due to NYPD investigation of a customer injury at 72 St, the following service changes are in effect: Both directions, , and trains are bypassing 72 St. Northbound and trains are running local from 14 St to 96 St. Some southbound and trains are running local from 96 St to Chambers St. Northbound trains are running on the line from Nevins St to 149 St-Grand Concourse. Allow additional travel time. There also might be trains from Pelham Bay/Parkchester turning at 3rd Avenue per SubwayTime, if they really are they might be trying to make room for rerouted trains on the East side... Edit: And at least one train might actually make it to the Bronx if SubwayTime is actually accurate... Edited December 18, 2014 by paulrivera 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2535 Posted December 18, 2014 Service Change Posted: 12/18/2014 5:00PM Due to FDNY activity at Rockaway Blvd, the following service changes are in effect: There is no train service between Euclid Av and Far Rockaway-Mott Av in both directions. There is no train service between Euclid Av and Ozone Park-Lefferts Blvd in both directions. Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted December 18, 2014 Share #2536 Posted December 18, 2014 A 5-alarm fire, they say... The building's about half a block away from the el structure, but now trains are starting to run again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 19, 2014 Share #2537 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Service Change Posted: 12/18/2014 7:17PM Due to NYPD investigation of a customer injury at Avenue M, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are terminate at Prospect Park. Southbound trains are running on the line from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Coney Island- Stillwell Av. and trains are running with delays in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Edited December 19, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted December 19, 2014 Share #2538 Posted December 19, 2014 Service Change Posted: 12/18/2014 7:17PM Due to NYPD investigation of a customer injury at Avenue M, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are terminate at Prospect Park. Southbound trains are running on the line from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Coney Island- Stillwell Av. and trains are running with delays in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Would be nice if they run trains through to at least Kings Highway from Coney Island. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 19, 2014 Share #2539 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Well, I just arrived home. I boarded the at Grand Street, and at 7 Avenue, they announced that were would be no local service and that all trains to Coney Island would be running express. At Newkirk Plaza, there was an out-of-service with passengers staying inside for the heat. At Kings Highway, another appear to have just left the station (maybe from the express track) and arrived at Avenue U. The stalled for a while as the train operator realized that she needed to press the button on the punch box to proceed. We caught up with that train at Neck Road. It did not appear to be going anywhere. At Sheepshead Bay, we caught up with yet another train. That train didn't go anywhere either. Approaching Brighton Beach, another stalled train started moving. A already at Brighton Beach just left the station for Ocean Parkway. That train stalled between Sheepshead Bay and Brighton Beach managed to pull into the station at the same time. Assuming serious delays, I took to the streets. No train movements were heard, and yet another stalled train at West 8 Street did not leave the station until I reached it. Halfway between West 8 Street and Coney Island, the that was stalled at Ocean Parkway pull into West 8 Street. At this point, I began to notice the blockade set up by the NYPD. Something was up in Coney Island, and there were NYPD cars at every block along Surf Avenue. Sure enough, I turn down Stillwell Avenue and were were over a dozen vehicles (half a dozen being fire trucks). The Turkish shops at the corner of Mermaid Avenue and Stillwell Avenue burned down and firefighters were blasting the buildings with water. The MTA site currently acknowledges that trains are delayed due to FDNY activity at Coney Island, but nothing on the site acknowledges the is heavily delayed as well. I assume the is affected by the same problem. Edited December 19, 2014 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted December 19, 2014 Share #2540 Posted December 19, 2014 possibly because it sound like the was thrown off their own track and go share the track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RtrainBlues Posted December 20, 2014 Share #2541 Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Service Change Posted: 12/20/2014 4:04PM Due to NYPD activity at Myrtle-Willoughby Avs, The following service changes are in effect: Northbound trains are terminating at Bedford-Nostrand Avs. There is no train service between Bedford-Nostrand Avs and Court Sq. As an alternative use the train for service into Queens. As an alternative to the train use the B44, B48 and B62 bus. Edited December 20, 2014 by RtrainBlues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2542 Posted December 21, 2014 Service Change Posted: 12/20/2014 4:04PM Due to NYPD activity at Myrtle-Willoughby Avs, The following service changes are in effect: Northbound trains are terminating at Bedford-Nostrand Avs. There is no train service between Bedford-Nostrand Avs and Court Sq. As an alternative use the train for service into Queens. As an alternative to the train use the B44, B48 and B62 bus. All because some animal from Baltimore decided to drive up to New York and execute two police officers in their squad car. RIP to those officers, but not the perp who then offed himself in the Myrtle-Willoughby station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2543 Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Well this is new..... Service Change Posted: 12/21/2014 2:16AM Due to switch problems at Queens Plaza, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are running express from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to Queens Plaza. Southbound trains are running local from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to 36 St. Allow additional travel time. Very interesting...... Edited December 21, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2544 Posted December 21, 2014 How? This happens fairly often. The service change is just worded weirdly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2545 Posted December 21, 2014 How? This happens fairly often. The service change is just worded weirdly. I didn't know it happens often, but I would not expect this during late nights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2546 Posted December 21, 2014 Well this is new..... Service Change Posted: 12/21/2014 2:16AM Due to switch problems at Queens Plaza, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are running express from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to Queens Plaza. Southbound trains are running local from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to 36 St. Allow additional travel time. Very interesting...... So trains switch to express at Forest Hills only to switch back again at Jackson Heights? What does that even accomplish? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted December 21, 2014 Share #2547 Posted December 21, 2014 Lots of unneeded switching there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted December 23, 2014 Share #2548 Posted December 23, 2014 Clearly, the MTA should have kept the extra tracks at Atlantic Avenue so that could run and trains from through Broadway Junction to Atlantic Avenue for an LIRR connection to Jamaica station. The extra tracks would be relatively isolated from the Canarsie line's CBTC-equipped tracks to not disturb trains. Absolutely. VERY short-sighthed move when they tore down a lot of the other tracks at Atlantic Avenue that would become very useful in situations like this and others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 23, 2014 Share #2549 Posted December 23, 2014 How many times would such a situation occur? Those extra tracks around Atlantic Av (Canarsie) and Broadway Junction were lightly used following the destruction of the old Fulton St elevated. Without that additional line in place, it wasn't necessary to keep the Dual Contracts configuration around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 25, 2014 Share #2550 Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) How many times would such a situation occur? Those extra tracks around Atlantic Av (Canarsie) and Broadway Junction were lightly used following the destruction of the old Fulton St elevated. Without that additional line in place, it wasn't necessary to keep the Dual Contracts configuration around. you could use the tracks for additional L service too. You would have tail tracks for additional L trains. And you could easily turn L trains. Also maybe some Ms. Edited December 25, 2014 by Union Tpke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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