bobtehpanda Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3276 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) First I believe that the Express QBL track can not fit more trains. Trains are usually backed up already at Queens Plaza and Roosevelt AV. Second I do not believe that the MTA have any plans to connect phase III to Queens. But Phase III is not planned yet so it may change The 63 St tunnel was built with turnouts going from west to north (which is what the will be using) and turnouts going from south to east (which is what any SAS service to Queens would use.) It already exists. But yes, all of Queens Blvd's track capacity is spoken for. Edited December 31, 2016 by bobtehpanda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3277 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) I feel like the bullet pattern in the SAS wrap reminds me of the old pre-1979 bullets. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Edited December 31, 2016 by Tonyboy515 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3278 Posted December 31, 2016 I feel like the bullet pattern in the SAS wrap reminds me of the old pre-1979 bullets. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Yep, it seems like it's based on the 1967-79 scheme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3279 Posted December 31, 2016 Along with the Grand Opening map using the Vignelli style; it seems like some retro thing. Like "the past meets the future" or something. Perhaps reflecting the time (1970's) when it was supposed to be built, from the work they started back then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3280 Posted December 31, 2016 The wrapped sets were staged at 86th Street today for the Open House: First complaint: There is no space between 2 and AV. I also found it interesting how they changed it to BRIGHTON LOCAL but BROADWAY EXP remains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3281 Posted December 31, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3282 Posted December 31, 2016 Will the southern terminus of Phase 3 feature a direct connection to the at Second Avenue Station? This connection doesn't appear on the four-phase map, but it seems unthinkable for the Second Avenue Subway to neglect Second Avenue Station. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3283 Posted December 31, 2016 Real time train arrival information for the 2nd Avenue line stations is supposedly on the way. What that means or what it entails I'm not sure because I sure don't see any of the bluetooth clocks in the 2nd Avenue stations like they do along the Broadway line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDNQ2345 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3284 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) The new subway/bus maps is now on the site: http://web.mta.info/maps/ Edited December 31, 2016 by BDNQ2345 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3285 Posted December 31, 2016 Will the southern terminus of Phase 3 feature a direct connection to the at Second Avenue Station? This connection doesn't appear on the four-phase map, but it seems unthinkable for the Second Avenue Subway to neglect Second Avenue Station. All the transfers in Phases 3 and 4 are tentative, but I think that 55 St, 14 St, Houston St, and Grand St are guaranteed to connect to their respective lines. The only one that may be in question is 42 St, but I think the underground passage to GCT is too important to not build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3286 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Was a 79th Street Station ever planned? It seems like a strange gap in service. I also wonder whether the Houston Street Station and Second Avenue Station will become jointly known as the Second Avenue–Houston Street Station. Edited December 31, 2016 by Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3287 Posted December 31, 2016 All the transfers in Phases 3 and 4 are tentative, but I think that 55 St, 14 St, Houston St, and Grand St are guaranteed to connect to their respective lines. The only one that may be in question is 42 St, but I think the underground passage to GCT is too important to not build. 14 St and Houston, for sure, are guaranteed because they're so easy. Both stations already intersect with Second Avenue. Grand St even more so since they're digging under it. On the other hand 55 St and 42 St are two blocks away. I can see a very strong case for 42 St, but 55 St is actually more iffy; how many people are going to walk two blocks to transfer from the to the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDNQ2345 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3288 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) I just saw the new weekend Broadway Lcl display with the M23 SBS on it Edited December 31, 2016 by BDNQ2345 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3289 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) First complaint: There is no space between 2 and AV. I also found it interesting how they changed it to BRIGHTON LOCAL but BROADWAY EXP remains. Didn't it used to be Brighton LCL? I was also wondering why they didn't Chang Broadway EXP. Maybe because there isn't enough space. Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Edited December 31, 2016 by Tonyboy515 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3290 Posted December 31, 2016 Why couldn't the offer service identical to that of the between Roosevelt Island and Jamaica–179th Street Station?The wouldn't be able to run on the express tracks between 71st Ave and the 63rd St tunnel junction with both the and already there. It could run on the local because the and run much less frequently than the and . But then the MTA will have to be more vigilant about fumigating trains at 71st in order to get trains in and out of there so they can relay quickly enough and get back in service going southbound. Or have one of the locals branch off the Queens Blvd line. Perhaps branch the onto the Rockaway Branch after 63rd Drive. The would likely be the a shorter route than the or , so it would probably be the best option for a service connecting the Rockaways to the Queens Blvd Line. Either way, I strongly believe there should be two services south of 63rd St. We don't want to spend all that money to go south of 63rd St only to be forced into running the line well below capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3291 Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) All the transfers in Phases 3 and 4 are tentative, but I think that 55 St, 14 St, Houston St, and Grand St are guaranteed to connect to their respective lines. The only one that may be in question is 42 St, but I think the underground passage to GCT is too important to not build. 14 St and Houston, for sure, are guaranteed because they're so easy. Both stations already intersect with Second Avenue. Grand St even more so since they're digging under it. On the other hand 55 St and 42 St are two blocks away. I can see a very strong case for 42 St, but 55 St is actually more iffy; how many people are going to walk two blocks to transfer from the to the ? This is another reason in favor of implementing a Queens-SAS service via Queens Blvd. It would connect to every subway line in North Queens except the and . And if the were to run on the Rockaway Branch, it would also have transfers to the and lines and possibly the LIRR's Atlantic Branch. Riders from the other lines would be able to transfer to the while still in Queens or be able to get it directly. It might even mitigate the need for a super long transfer between the and the at Lex/53rd and possibly the at 42nd, because there would already be transfers from the , and to the in Queens. There is currently no transfer being planned from the to the at Lex/59th. At least the could potentially offer a transfer to the in Queens. Edited December 31, 2016 by T to Dyre Avenue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3292 Posted December 31, 2016 Didn't it used to be Brighton LCL? I was also wondering why they didn't Chang Broadway EXP. Maybe because there isn't enough space. Sent from my iPad using NYC Transit Forums mobile app It fits, just barely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3293 Posted December 31, 2016 I know this was stated couldn't find the page. What does the time the 1st to 96th leave CI tomorrow? 10:30am? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3294 Posted December 31, 2016 I know this was stated couldn't find the page. What does the time the 1st to 96th leave CI tomorrow? 10:30am?10:53 or 10:55 AM, one of those times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3295 Posted December 31, 2016 10:53 or 10:55 AM, one of those times. Thanks might catch that at Prospect Park so that's about 11:15 AM on my side. Wonder if it'll be packed? I can see my Wife now asking why I'm doing this again hahaha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3296 Posted December 31, 2016 According to an MTA employee, the first to 96 Street will depart from Stillwell Av at 11:08:30. http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1421751 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3297 Posted December 31, 2016 Thanks might catch that at Prospect Park so that's about 11:15 AM on my side. Wonder if it'll be packed? I can see my Wife now asking why I'm doing this again hahaha.It'll probably be filled with a bunch of fans that wanna get that "exclusive" first train ride up there, and with them dotted around the line getting their photos and videos Kinda feel bad for the crew lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDNQ2345 Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3298 Posted December 31, 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 31, 2016 Share #3299 Posted December 31, 2016 It'll probably be filled with a bunch of fans that wanna get that "exclusive" first train ride up there, and with them dotted around the line getting their photos and videos Kinda feel bad for the crew lol So much for thinking they weren't going to ride all the way from Brooklyn. Thanks for that information @ Lance. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3300 Posted January 1, 2017 So this means that the East Side Access project brings us closer to a future service from Houston Street (and later Hanover Square) into Queens (perhaps terminating at the Jamaica–179th Street Station). Sunnyside Yard access only helps matters. It was never built! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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