Union Tpke Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3301 Posted January 1, 2017 Was a 79th Street Station ever planned? It seems like a strange gap in service. I also wonder whether the Houston Street Station and Second Avenue Station will become jointly known as the Second Avenue–Houston Street Station. No, it was never planned. In fact, originally, stations at 96th and 72nd were not planned. The stations went as follows: 125th Street, 106th Street, 86th Street, 57th Street, 48th Street, 34th Street, 23rd Street, 14th Street, Houston Street, Grand Street, Chatham Square, Pine/Wall Streets, and Whitehall Street. Will the southern terminus of Phase 3 feature a direct connection to the at Second Avenue Station? This connection doesn't appear on the four-phase map, but it seems unthinkable for the Second Avenue Subway to neglect Second Avenue Station. There will be a transfer but no track connection. It is too bad that the open house was on a Friday. Couldn't it have been in the morning? I am going to be on that first train! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3302 Posted January 1, 2017 Will the southern terminus of Phase 3 feature a direct connection to the at Second Avenue Station? This connection doesn't appear on the four-phase map, but it seems unthinkable for the Second Avenue Subway to neglect Second Avenue Station. The only transfers definitely planned are to the at 125th and the at Grand St, since they're pretty unavoidable. The other transfers considered ( at 55th, at 42nd and at 14th) are tentative for now. 14 St and Houston, for sure, are guaranteed because they're so easy. Both stations already intersect with Second Avenue. Grand St even more so since they're digging under it. On the other hand 55 St and 42 St are two blocks away. I can see a very strong case for 42 St, but 55 St is actually more iffy; how many people are going to walk two blocks to transfer from the to the ? 55 St is planned to be closer to Lex-53rd than two blocks away. The south end of the station will be around 53rd, and the eastern end of the platform is east of 3rd Av. It'll be a lot shorter to the than to the . If built as planned, the to transfer should also be shorter than the to transfer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3303 Posted January 1, 2017 The neighborhood maps are out. http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhoods/mn/M16_UpperEastSide2017Q.pdf http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhoods/mn/M14_UpperEastSide2017Q.pdf They still haven't updated this map, however. http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhoods/mn/M11_midtown_2015.pdf The MTA is lazy in terms of links. This is the link to the old subway map. http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html Here is the new one. They just added a 2. http://web.mta.info/maps/submap2.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3304 Posted January 1, 2017 The only transfers definitely planned are to the at 125th and the at Grand St, since they're pretty unavoidable. The other transfers considered ( at 55th, at 42nd and at 14th) are tentative for now. 55 St is planned to be closer to Lex-53rd than two blocks away. The south end of the station will be around 53rd, and the eastern end of the platform is east of 3rd Av. It'll be a lot shorter to the than to the . If built as planned, the to transfer should also be shorter than the to transfer. What document are the top two images from? I assume that the bottom one is from the FEIS... Also, I was hoping that 55th Street would have a 57th Street or midblock between 56th and 57th Streets exit, but it appears that won't be the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3305 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) What document are the top two images from? I assume that the bottom one is from the FEIS... Also, I was hoping that 55th Street would have a 57th Street or midblock between 56th and 57th Streets exit, but it appears that won't be the case. First two images are from the Community Board 6 presentation located here, which is linked on the SAS Publications page; the third is from the FEIS, section 8, Displacement and Relocation, specifically here. Edited January 1, 2017 by Mysterious2train 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3306 Posted January 1, 2017 The neighborhood maps are out. http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhoods/mn/M16_UpperEastSide2017Q.pdf http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhoods/mn/M14_UpperEastSide2017Q.pdf You'd think they'd use the newer design from the WalkNYC maps like they did with the Hudson Yards station. Speaking of which, what happened with that plan of replacing the neighborhood maps with the WalkNYC ones? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3307 Posted January 1, 2017 You'd think they'd use the newer design from the WalkNYC maps like they did with the Hudson Yards station. Speaking of which, what happened with that plan of replacing the neighborhood maps with the WalkNYC ones? The Second Avenue stations do have the WalkNYC maps. I assume the web version is for the other stations in the area. Why there are two versions is beyond me... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3308 Posted January 1, 2017 The Second Avenue stations do have the WalkNYC maps. I assume the web version is for the other stations in the area. Why there are two versions is beyond me... WalkNYC is primarily a DOT initiative. Too many cooks, too many cooks~ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share #3309 Posted January 1, 2017 WalkNYC is primarily a DOT initiative. Too many cooks, too many cooks~ Their maps are also not very accurate when measuring walking time. They use a simple circle overlaid on top of the Manhattan grid. Obviously, it takes longer to walk to any destination that doesn’t lie on the north-south or east-west axes (with you as the origin). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juelz4309 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3310 Posted January 1, 2017 Was doin some thinkin about the future bronx extension if it ever gets built in my lifetime but heres a very intresting proposal Albeit it VERY expensive...I would peg it it around 10 Billion...BUT Well worth it....Here me out..apologize for the length... We all kno it will be built to connect with the 2/5/6 but what about the 4???? So I was lookin at google maps and came up with this.. Leaving 3 ave/138 st the line curves north west to align with the 149/GC 4 Platforms Yet below the 2/5 platforms obviously This station would be situated directly below the Metro north tracks right before the split of the harlem and hudson line...With the transfer connecting to the 2/5 platforms at the eastern end...possibly an direct connection at the south end of the platforms to the 4... Imagine the benefit of having the TWO direct ways into the east OR west side and Brooklyn...This new station/connection would EASILY Become the Bronx busiest station overtaking 161/yankee stadium (which still dont add up to me but whatever lol) ALSO...leaving the 149 st/GC Station heading north the line would be 2-3 tracks curving East onto 153 st to get back to 3 avenue and head north as planned BUT to take advantage of some open space above Due north From the metro north split to 156 st bet concourse village and the metro north harlem line tracks you could build a new undergorund yard of at least 10-15 tracks since youre already deep underground...Providing capacity for the entire line and taking pressure off exisiting yards.,,Tell me this wouldnt be a DOPE Idea Lol... HAPPY NEW YRS MY FREINDS... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayParkwayW Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3311 Posted January 1, 2017 They added the extension to Apple Maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cl94 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3312 Posted January 1, 2017 Google has it in there based on the message they're showing if you click on Lex/63rd. Looks like it'll automatically show up either at midnight or sometime before service begins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3313 Posted January 1, 2017 The only transfers definitely planned are to the at 125th and the at Grand St, since they're pretty unavoidable. The other transfers considered ( at 55th, at 42nd and at 14th) are tentative for now. 55 St is planned to be closer to Lex-53rd than two blocks away. The south end of the station will be around 53rd, and the eastern end of the platform is east of 3rd Av. It'll be a lot shorter to the than to the . If built as planned, the to transfer should also be shorter than the to transfer. Ok, that might not be such a bad transfer. But I still think there should still be two services south of 63rd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3314 Posted January 1, 2017 Does anyone know what wrapped trains there are and when they depart Stillwell/96th? (to ride it) Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3315 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Does anyone know what wrapped trains there are and when they depart Stillwell/96th? (to ride it) Thanks! As far as I know there has been no confirmation on when (if) the wrapped trains will run, but I am willing to bet that the first train will be a wrapped train. Edited January 1, 2017 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3316 Posted January 1, 2017 In response to a 2nd ave - Queens blvd route: This is what i would do The new 2nd ave line route would be called the (U). I would have it run between Jamaica Center to Hanover Sq. This line would replace the The would run between 71st ave and world trade center all local at all times. The would replace the . would remain the same. will remain the same The would run via 2nd ave after lex and 63rd to 125th street. Or The newly created (U) would run between 71st ave and hanover sq replacing the in queens. The would run uptown to 125th and lex. The and would remain the same. Imho the 2nd choice would workout better. But we all know this will probably never happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3317 Posted January 1, 2017 The wants to avoid a (U) designation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3318 Posted January 1, 2017 In response to a 2nd ave - Queens blvd route: This is what i would do The new 2nd ave line route would be called the (U). I would have it run between Jamaica Center to Hanover Sq. This line would replace the The would run between 71st ave and world trade center all local at all times. The would replace the . would remain the same. will remain the same The would run via 2nd ave after lex and 63rd to 125th street. Or The newly created (U) would run between 71st ave and hanover sq replacing the in queens. The would run uptown to 125th and lex. The and would remain the same. Imho the 2nd choice would workout better. But we all know this will probably never happen. The problem I have with this route is that your aren't adding any capacity (except for two more cars than the current trains). The whole point of a 2nd Av- Queens service is to add East Midtown service from Queens (which your plan accomplishes by screwing over local riders towards 6th Av) and to add additional overall capacity on Queens Blvd (which your plan does not do) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3319 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Can't wait for the first phase to open in the afternoon! Please be civil if you're attending the first train to the Upper East Side, and be safe. Edited January 1, 2017 by TheNewYorkElevated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3320 Posted January 1, 2017 Can't wait for the first phase to open in the afternoon! Please be civil if you're attending the first train to the Upper East Side, and be safe. We'll see waiting for the train now. Never seen the elusive foamer in action. This should be interesting. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3321 Posted January 1, 2017 I caught the first everything today. First down 2 Av, from the relay tracks, to 96 St, and even the first 2 Av delay. And from my test rides today, guess what? BUGS (although not surprising) Seems most evident when the reached 63rd St. Sometimes the automated announcements have to be started up again or the conductor has to make manual announcements because the announcements lag. Never imagine a perfect world in the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3322 Posted January 1, 2017 The only transfers definitely planned are to the at 125th and the at Grand St, since they're pretty unavoidable. The other transfers considered ( at 55th, at 42nd and at 14th) are tentative for now. 55 St is planned to be closer to Lex-53rd than two blocks away. The south end of the station will be around 53rd, and the eastern end of the platform is east of 3rd Av. It'll be a lot shorter to the than to the . If built as planned, the to transfer should also be shorter than the to transfer. Oddly, if this is built, one taking the SAS but working around 50th and Lex could take the SAS to 55th, walk through the 53rd Street Line platform and then the platform without going outside). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3323 Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) I caught the first everything today. First down 2 Av, from the relay tracks, to 96 St, and even the first 2 Av delay. And from my test rides today, guess what? BUGS (although not surprising) Seems most evident when the reached 63rd St. Sometimes the automated announcements have to be started up again or the conductor has to make manual announcements because the announcements lag. Never imagine a perfect world in the . I was on that train in the first car, and way before we got to Lex-63rd, it announced "This is...", and we got stuck in the tunnel for a few minutes. Then, when we got to 72nd, it was still saying "THE NEXT STOP IS ; 72 ST" and it didn't even play any announcements except Stand Clear of the Closing Doors. At 86th Street, it went back to normal. It was one buggy train. Also, Charlie Pellet was on the train and I met him and took some photos. On the way back, I noticed the Coney Island bound announcement changed. It now states "This is a Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue bound local train." Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Edited January 1, 2017 by Tonyboy515 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3324 Posted January 1, 2017 I just saw the wrapped on the Manhattan bound track at Parkside Ave Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted January 1, 2017 Share #3325 Posted January 1, 2017 Another wrapped train just left Avenue M. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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