MysteriousBtrain Posted July 25, 2018 Share #2101 Posted July 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Does anyone known when the next shutdown between Manhattan and Brooklyn will start? I'm dying to see that to 96th St again. Check the MTA website. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 26, 2018 Share #2102 Posted July 26, 2018 23 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Does anyone known when the next shutdown between Manhattan and Brooklyn will start? I'm dying to see that to 96th St again. 23 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Check the MTA website. Specifically, page 49 of this site. 21 hours ago, Vtrain said: Has anyone on this site heard on when the Chambers St J/Z stop will close for rehabilitation when this was announced just not long ago? The station will remain open for the duration of the project, most of which only pertain to making the station fully accessible. See here for more details. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 27, 2018 Share #2103 Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) This is a bit interesting. Anyone know what's going on here? Also, the notices posted at stations aren't this detailed (they just say that there's limited service, and to transfer to the or ) STATION IMPROVEMENTS | 4:45 AM Mon, Jul 30 to 10 PM Fri, Aug 3Limited uptown service at 145 St in Manhattan Uptown trains stop at 145 St during the following hours: 9:20 AM to 4 PM and 6:45 PM to 9:30 PM (service ends early each night) 4 PM to 6:45 PM and 10:45 PM to 5 AM (overnight) All other times: For service to this station transfer to the or at 125 St. For service from this station, take the to 125 St and transfer to an uptown .Reminder: trains do not operate overnight. Edited July 27, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted July 28, 2018 Share #2104 Posted July 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: This is a bit interesting. Anyone know what's going on here? Also, the notices posted at stations aren't this detailed (they just say that there's limited service, and to transfer to the or ) STATION IMPROVEMENTS | 4:45 AM Mon, Jul 30 to 10 PM Fri, Aug 3Limited uptown service at 145 St in Manhattan Uptown trains stop at 145 St during the following hours: 9:20 AM to 4 PM and 6:45 PM to 9:30 PM (service ends early each night) 4 PM to 6:45 PM and 10:45 PM to 5 AM (overnight) All other times: For service to this station transfer to the or at 125 St. For service from this station, take the to 125 St and transfer to an uptown .Reminder: trains do not operate overnight. Sounds like the uptown platform at 145 St is out of service, so any train on the local track must skip 145 St. The only trains that can platform are those that reverse to Brighton Beach from 145 St and the rush hour express. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted July 29, 2018 Share #2105 Posted July 29, 2018 Planned subway service changes for August: : Operates Every 16 minutes between 137th St and 242nd St the Bronx: Aug 4-5 : No trains between 135th st and E 180th St: Aug 4-5,18-19,25-26 : No trains between 149th St Grand Concourse and E 180th St : No trains between Times Square 42nd St and 34th St Hudson Yards: Aug 4-5 : Brooklyn Bound Trains run via the between W4th St and Jay St-Metrotech : Brooklyn Bound Trains run via the between W4th St and Jay St-Metrotech : No trains between 34th St Herald Square and Atlantic Ave Barclays Center: Aug 18-19 : No trains Between Queens Plaza and World Trade Center: runs via 63rd and Broadway: Aug 4-5 : Coney Island Bound Trains run via the and lines to Jay St-Metrotech: Aug 4-5,18-19 179th St Bound Trains run via the from 47th-50th St to Queens Plaza: Aug 4-5 : No trains between Crescent St and Jamaica Center: Aug 4-5,11-12,18-19 No trains between Crescent St and Myrtle Ave: Aug 25-26 : No trains between either Broadway Junction or Myrtle Wyckoff Ave and 8av/14th St: Aug 11-12th : No trains between Metropolitan Ave and Essex St, Take the instead: Aug 25-26 Trains extended to 96th St-2nd Av train station: Aug 11-12th : Trains run via the from 36th St to Coney-Island Stillwell Av: Aug 4-5 No trains between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Blvd: Aug 4-5,11-12th You can add on to the list if there's more planned service changes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted July 29, 2018 Share #2106 Posted July 29, 2018 Cool, the is returning to it's original terminal. Haven't heard those announcements in a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 29, 2018 Share #2107 Posted July 29, 2018 STATION RENOVATION | Until 5 AM Monday, Jul 30 Manhattan-bound platforms at Avenue U, Avenue P, Avenue N, Bay Pkwy and Avenue I are temporarily closed Travel Alternatives For service to these stations, take the to Kings Hwy or 18 Av and transfer to a Coney Island-bound . For service from these stations, take the to Kings Hwy or Avenue X and transfer to a Manhattan-bound . Click here for details about the Culver Line stations renewal project. ______________________________ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted July 29, 2018 Share #2108 Posted July 29, 2018 Update to the list Note: Brooklyn bound and trains running via the between W4 St and Jay st metrotech is on the last weekend of August, I forget to add the date. trains operate in two sections during the weekend of the 18-19 Between 205 St and 34th St herald square. Between Atlantic Ave Barclays Center and Coney Island StillWell Ave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 2, 2018 Share #2109 Posted August 2, 2018 TRACK MAINTENANCE | Monday to Friday, until Aug 31, 2018Trains run at a reduced speed in the area of 149 St-Grand Concourse You may experience longer wait times and delays on the and trains as we repair a switch at 149 St-Grand Concourse. For more information read our Customer Commitment and Fast Forward plan to modernize New York City Transit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 2, 2018 Share #2110 Posted August 2, 2018 So, business as usual then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 3, 2018 Share #2111 Posted August 3, 2018 Can someone explain to me why at times it can take a whole month to repair a switch and other times it only takes a weekend? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgorithmOfTruth Posted August 3, 2018 Share #2112 Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Can someone explain to me why at times it can take a whole month to repair a switch and other times it only takes a weekend? This has to do with a lack of adequate supervision, inefficient management protocol, and uneccesarily restrictive Track Worker safety procedures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 3, 2018 Share #2113 Posted August 3, 2018 That may be a part of it, but running through service for two lines puts a damper on quick completion as well. If I had to wager a guess, it's the junction between White Plains Rd and Jerome Ave that's being replaced. If they suspended service for the duration of the project, it would probably wrap up in a shorter timeframe. Of course, nobody's going to stand for those kind of operations during peak periods, which leaves us with the slow speed order. Also, from what I understand, very few of these types of projects actually finish in the span of a single weekend. It's just that they aren't critical switches, so having it out of service for a few weeks with nothing happening is not a major problem. Shifting gears, look what's back for the end of the month: STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS | 9:30 PM Fri, Aug 24 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 27 No trains between Myrtle Av and Crescent St in Brooklyn No trains running - Take the instead Think they'll get it right this time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 3, 2018 Share #2114 Posted August 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, Lance said: Shifting gears, look what's back for the end of the month: STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS | 9:30 PM Fri, Aug 24 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 27 No trains between Myrtle Av and Crescent St in Brooklyn No trains running - Take the instead Think they'll get it right this time? They probably won’t , but here’s to hoping. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted August 9, 2018 Share #2115 Posted August 9, 2018 STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS | 9:30 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 No trains running trains and free shuttle buses provide alternate service Shuttle Buses make all stops between Court Sq and Hoyt-Schermerhorn, connecting with the at Jay St-MetroTech. trains make stops between Bergen St and Church Av. • Transfer between trains and shuttle buses at Jay St-MetroTech. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted August 9, 2018 Share #2116 Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 8:28 AM, Lance said: That may be a part of it, but running through service for two lines puts a damper on quick completion as well. If I had to wager a guess, it's the junction between White Plains Rd and Jerome Ave that's being replaced. If they suspended service for the duration of the project, it would probably wrap up in a shorter timeframe. Of course, nobody's going to stand for those kind of operations during peak periods, which leaves us with the slow speed order. Also, from what I understand, very few of these types of projects actually finish in the span of a single weekend. It's just that they aren't critical switches, so having it out of service for a few weeks with nothing happening is not a major problem. Shifting gears, look what's back for the end of the month: STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS | 9:30 PM Fri, Aug 24 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 27 No trains between Myrtle Av and Crescent St in Brooklyn No trains running - Take the instead Think they'll get it right this time? The in its current service pattern would have to be temporarily suspended, but not necessarily mean a reduction in overall service. What could be done is: - keep as is - temporarily reroute to Dyre Av - unchanged - operate between Flatbush Av and some terminal along the line (149 St, Burnside Av, Bedford Park Blvd) Yes White Plains Road would lose direct Lexington Av Service and 148 St would require shuttle buses, but it temporarily de-interlines the Bronx Portion of the IRT and allows for the work to progress. Work can be completed in slightly less time IF and ONLY if the main work is along the stretch of the to get to Jerome Av-138 St/Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 9, 2018 Share #2117 Posted August 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: The in its current service pattern would have to be temporarily suspended, but not necessarily mean a reduction in overall service. What could be done is: - keep as is - temporarily reroute to Dyre Av - unchanged - operate between Flatbush Av and some terminal along the line (149 St, Burnside Av, Bedford Park Blvd) Yes White Plains Road would lose direct Lexington Av Service and 148 St would require shuttle buses, but it temporarily de-interlines the Bronx Portion of the IRT and allows for the work to progress. Work can be completed in slightly less time IF and ONLY if the main work is along the stretch of the to get to Jerome Av-138 St/Grand Concourse I hope you realize that you give Jerome to much service in this case. Trains will start piling up on each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 9, 2018 Share #2118 Posted August 9, 2018 The problem I see with a lot of these ideas is that, in solving one problem, it creates another, sometimes several others. In this example, as mentioned, because the is now rerouted to Dyre Av, there is no service to 148 St-Lenox Terminal, creating the need for shuttle buses where there previously wasn't one (expense). It also requires more cars for service than the current operations (another expense). Under this proposal, train service would continue to operate along Jerome Ave, which means only a few sets will be made available on the shortened line, less so if service is extended far up Jerome Ave. Extending the all the way to Dyre Av from 135 Street would require more train sets, and thus more crews to operate them (see previous) to meet normal service, possibly more than could be provided by freed up sets. Another thing this would do is invent a new transfer point as there would be no direct service between White Plains Rd and Lexington Ave, possibly overwhelming the already crowded Jerome Ave platform at peak periods. All this for a relatively minor service change seems a lot like overkill. More so since the delays themselves are relatively minor, at least on the trains I'm on in the mornings. Sometimes, the best solution is the simplest one: slow down the trains in the work zone slightly and otherwise leave service as is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 9, 2018 Share #2119 Posted August 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, Lance said: The problem I see with a lot of these ideas is that, in solving one problem, it creates another, sometimes several others. In this example, as mentioned, because the is now rerouted to Dyre Av, there is no service to 148 St-Lenox Terminal, creating the need for shuttle buses where there previously wasn't one (expense). It also requires more cars for service than the current operations (another expense). Under this proposal, train service would continue to operate along Jerome Ave, which means only a few sets will be made available on the shortened line, less so if service is extended far up Jerome Ave. Extending the all the way to Dyre Av from 135 Street would require more train sets, and thus more crews to operate them (see previous) to meet normal service, possibly more than could be provided by freed up sets. Another thing this would do is invent a new transfer point as there would be no direct service between White Plains Rd and Lexington Ave, possibly overwhelming the already crowded Jerome Ave platform at peak periods. All this for a relatively minor service change seems a lot like overkill. More so since the delays themselves are relatively minor, at least on the trains I'm on in the mornings. Sometimes, the best solution is the simplest one: slow down the trains in the work zone slightly and otherwise leave service as is. Can you be our new transit president plz? Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted August 10, 2018 Share #2120 Posted August 10, 2018 16 hours ago, Lance said: The problem I see with a lot of these ideas is that, in solving one problem, it creates another, sometimes several others. In this example, as mentioned, because the is now rerouted to Dyre Av, there is no service to 148 St-Lenox Terminal, creating the need for shuttle buses where there previously wasn't one (expense). It also requires more cars for service than the current operations (another expense). Under this proposal, train service would continue to operate along Jerome Ave, which means only a few sets will be made available on the shortened line, less so if service is extended far up Jerome Ave. Extending the all the way to Dyre Av from 135 Street would require more train sets, and thus more crews to operate them (see previous) to meet normal service, possibly more than could be provided by freed up sets. Another thing this would do is invent a new transfer point as there would be no direct service between White Plains Rd and Lexington Ave, possibly overwhelming the already crowded Jerome Ave platform at peak periods. All this for a relatively minor service change seems a lot like overkill. More so since the delays themselves are relatively minor, at least on the trains I'm on in the mornings. Sometimes, the best solution is the simplest one: slow down the trains in the work zone slightly and otherwise leave service as is. I see your point, but was just trying to keep trains moving. And yes the shortened would have caused a bit of a pile up on the but would have meant that trains in manhattan could have been slightly less full. With the new transit president don’t be surprised if we start seeing more invasive methods to service changes to wrap up work faster, similar to how the ran express from Parsons Blvd/Jamaica Van Wyck to 71 Av full-time for 11 days due to track replacement. Ripping off the band aid rather than peeling it and feeling every inch of your skin hurt for a longer time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted August 12, 2018 Share #2121 Posted August 12, 2018 According the MTA site Manhattan bound trains are via the this weekend but according to subway time and a t/o I asked today train service is normal this weekend in Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted August 13, 2018 Share #2122 Posted August 13, 2018 Wow, only one track open on the Manhattan Bridge next weekend: TRACK REPLACEMENT | 10:30 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 Trains will not run between 34 St-Herald Sq, Manhattan and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, Brooklyn TRACK REPLACEMENT | 11 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 Astoria-bound trains run via the from 36 St, Brooklyn to Canal St, Manhattan TRACK REPLACEMENT | 11 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 96 St-bound trains run via the from DeKalb Av, Brooklyn to Canal St, Manhattan At this point, I would have also closed the one remaining track off to give the track workers an unimpeded work zone, and give lower Broadway a consistent 4 minute headway instead of 4 minutes heading uptown and 12 minutes heading back down. But what do I know about running a debt ridden, mismanaged, inept transit system 🤷♂️ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted August 13, 2018 Share #2123 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, paulrivera said: Wow, only one track open on the Manhattan Bridge next weekend: TRACK REPLACEMENT | 10:30 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 Trains will not run between 34 St-Herald Sq, Manhattan and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr, Brooklyn TRACK REPLACEMENT | 11 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 Astoria-bound trains run via the from 36 St, Brooklyn to Canal St, Manhattan TRACK REPLACEMENT | 11 PM Fri, Aug 17 to 5 AM Mon, Aug 20 96 St-bound trains run via the from DeKalb Av, Brooklyn to Canal St, Manhattan At this point, I would have also closed the one remaining track off to give the track workers an unimpeded work zone, and give lower Broadway a consistent 4 minute headway instead of 4 minutes heading uptown and 12 minutes heading back down. But what do I know about running a debt ridden, mismanaged, inept transit system 🤷♂️ The Track replacement project has to with the northbound tracks north of Dekalb before the split which is why Trains aren't running between 34th Street and Atlantic Avenue as well as northbound Trains running via the Tube. It has nothing to do with work on the Bridge. Edited August 13, 2018 by Daniel The Cool 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 13, 2018 Share #2124 Posted August 13, 2018 6 hours ago, paulrivera said: At this point, I would have also closed the one remaining track off to give the track workers an unimpeded work zone, and give lower Broadway a consistent 4 minute headway instead of 4 minutes heading uptown and 12 minutes heading back down. But what do I know about running a debt ridden, mismanaged, inept transit system Because running three services on one track with a track change on both ends of the reroute for one of the services has never caused any problems, right? Let's do it in the other direction as well even though there's no real reason to do so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted August 13, 2018 Share #2125 Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Lance said: Because running three services on one track with a track change on both ends of the reroute for one of the services has never caused any problems, right? Let's do it in the other direction as well even though there's no real reason to do so. As a customer I'd rather see that than wait 15 minutes for an train, but your point is valid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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