realizm Posted January 25, 2013 Share #226 Posted January 25, 2013 Ahem. Because that point lilbluefoxie made would be automatically understood. What comes up must comes down. ok? OKAY!!?? Man I really gotta cut down on this coffee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 25, 2013 Share #227 Posted January 25, 2013 Whats not to understand, if you fall 4-5 feet vs falling 40-50 feet, falling 40-50 feet is much more likely to kill you and thats why bridges have proper guardrails vs a train platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 25, 2013 Share #228 Posted January 25, 2013 I give up lilbluefoxie. Nevermind, forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted January 25, 2013 Share #229 Posted January 25, 2013 Ahem. Because that point lilbluefoxie made would be automatically understood. What comes up must comes down. ok? OKAY!!?? Are you okay? In all seriousness, you've been acting funky as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 25, 2013 Share #230 Posted January 25, 2013 Are you okay? In all seriousness, you've been acting funky as of late. Honestly: Having a bad week, it's stress, work related.... We all have our moments. Gotta laugh it off sometimes, I'll be fine. Going to the break room to get some coffee. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted January 25, 2013 Share #231 Posted January 25, 2013 Coffee solves 'errything! BTW, this thread has not gone very far... and it has been proved that doors are not a viable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 26, 2013 Share #232 Posted January 26, 2013 Regardless, thats a lot of space to air condition, especially in IND stations. Do you really think the MTA is going to spend money on HVAC units for every single station underground they put platform doors on em. Oooh sarcasm, has someone ran out of real points to debate with? It sounds like MTA will never bring any new to our system....even refurbishment...since they don't want to spend money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nflamez Posted January 26, 2013 Share #233 Posted January 26, 2013 It sounds like MTA will never bring any new to our system....even refurbishment...since they don't want to spend money... Isn't the whole point of the MTA as a public benefit corporation to spend money that benefits everyone in and around the City? Shouldn't they be spending money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted January 26, 2013 Share #234 Posted January 26, 2013 It sounds like MTA will never bring any new to our system....even refurbishment...since they don't want to spend money... There are more pressing issues then air-conditioned stations - have you seen the Sea Beach line?? That, along with the masses of other horror movie stations (Van Alst, Chambers/Nassau, all local stations on the Fulton IND) should all be seen to before we even consider the possibility of air-conditioned stations. What's up with all these deteriorated stations anyway - is this related to the whole crisis in the 70s and 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 26, 2013 Share #235 Posted January 26, 2013 Plus most of the capital budget is going to the Second Ave Line and the Extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 26, 2013 Share #236 Posted January 26, 2013 Isn't the whole point of the MTA as a public benefit corporation to spend money that benefits everyone in and around the City? Shouldn't they be spending money? Doesn't mean MTA should not provide subway services anymore since they can't earn money by operating the system? ------------------------------------------------------------- ok.....Back to normal discussion...... There are more pressing issues then air-conditioned stations - have you seen the Sea Beach line?? That, along with the masses of other horror movie stations (Van Alst, Chambers/Nassau, all local stations on the Fulton IND) should all be seen to before we even consider the possibility of air-conditioned stations. What's up with all these deteriorated stations anyway - is this related to the whole crisis in the 70s and 80s? I think so, the age isn't the only reason of this problem. There are some railway systems >80 years old, but those systems have pretty good shapes. Finally....I understand money is an issue, but it doesn't mean we could stop to plan (even plan, not doing immediately) for the future of our subway system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted January 26, 2013 Share #237 Posted January 26, 2013 Whats not to understand, if you fall 4-5 feet vs falling 40-50 feet, falling 40-50 feet is much more likely to kill you and thats why bridges have proper guardrails vs a train platform. If you fall backwards or without anyway of supporting or bracing your self you could die or bleed to death....if you fell 5ft backwards into a shallow creek you would die....same with a subway....its a hard surface.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 26, 2013 Share #238 Posted January 26, 2013 If you fall backwards or without anyway of supporting or bracing your self you could die or bleed to death....if you fell 5ft backwards into a shallow creek you would die....same with a subway....its a hard surface.... Its not like being high off the ground on a bridge where any way you fall over you are done for. If you fall down the stairs in a Subway station the wrong way you could injure yourself quite badly as well, are we gunna remove the stairs now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 26, 2013 Share #239 Posted January 26, 2013 Not to mention the creek may have sharp objects (puncture) and a stream of water (drowning), this vs a somewhat smoother surface and sometimes dry trackbed. So I'm not really sure what the point of that comparison was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 Posted January 27, 2013 Share #240 Posted January 27, 2013 I just hope there will be no ads when they put platform screen doors there. No ads in the doors. In Singapore, there are ads even on those platform gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted January 27, 2013 Share #241 Posted January 27, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow38qqeBAnU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 27, 2013 Share #242 Posted January 27, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow38qqeBAnU wiki-ed for the line in the first video..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamanote_Line btw......i think those gates are included IR sensor, otherwise.... The space that between train and screen doors can't be that big.....otherwise it really causes the problem that some people stuck between the train and PSD...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted January 27, 2013 Share #243 Posted January 27, 2013 IMO it's not worth it. With society today these idiots would break the damn sliding doors and/or graffiti them. Just imagine some idiot getting stuck on both the sliding door and the train doors. Will these doors be like those found in other TAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 28, 2013 Share #244 Posted January 28, 2013 Will these doors be like those found in other TAs? As far as I know, no other American metro system uses platform screens except for the various airport trams and the Las Vegas Monorail which nobody uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted January 28, 2013 Share #245 Posted January 28, 2013 They might have to go with slightly taller version of those, so that it would be hard to jump over; yet, the conductor could still observe the platform (that's another thing I always wondered about, if they got these doors). Also, as wide as some of those are, it would give a lot of slack for stopping accuracy. Again, you could probably even verlap some of the panels, so you could have doors for both 60 and 75 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 28, 2013 Share #246 Posted January 28, 2013 As far as I know, no other American metro system uses platform screens except for the various airport trams and the Las Vegas Monorail which nobody uses.lol, Vegas monorail, $5 wasted to walk thru the mazes of the casinos just to get back to the strip. It's the few cases the bus is better than rail. It's only good if you need to get from the MGM grand to formerly Sahara ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted January 28, 2013 Share #247 Posted January 28, 2013 lol, Vegas monorail, $5 wasted to walk thru the mazes of the casinos just to get back to the strip. It's the few cases the bus is better than rail. It's only good if you need to get from the MGM grand to formerly Sahara ASAP. Or the Hilton, I rode it years ago when I was in Vegas to go to the Star Trek Experience before they closed that down. Most people use The Deuce which is the bus that runs up and down the strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 28, 2013 Share #248 Posted January 28, 2013 That was the only stop that actually took you to the front of the place and thus you don't have to go thru the maze. It's a shame they closed that attraction down. But at least I got to experience the Borg and klingon attractions in 2006. Yes and the bus issues a 24 hr pass for $5 (2007). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted January 28, 2013 Share #249 Posted January 28, 2013 They use censors to line the train up with the doors....the conductor helps with seeing if the doors are lined up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k253YuZ8Y0E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 Posted January 28, 2013 Share #250 Posted January 28, 2013 I think the platform screen doors don't need to be that big as if the whole door and the 'door window' have been exposed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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