Quill Depot Posted March 22, 2013 Share #26 Posted March 22, 2013 Reminds me of a Wings song, that I tweaked a little: Someone's knocking at the door, straphangers are gonna get mad, someone's knocking at the door, straphangers are really damn mad, do me a favor, open the door and let 'em OUTTTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted March 22, 2013 Share #27 Posted March 22, 2013 The cabs are right next to each other so I don't understand why it takes some conductors longer to open the doors than others. Sometimes Doors are Locked, then you have to open the door(and make sure it dont hit you when it swings). Then Make sure you are on the right board put in your Key Open the Doors.. Procedures... Among other things... You are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted March 22, 2013 Sometimes Doors are Locked, then you have to open the door(and make sure it dont hit you when it swings). Then Make sure you are on the right board put in your Key Open the Doors.. Procedures... Among other things... You are welcome! I think opening the doors at the final stop should be a summer Olympic event. That would open the doors faster. I expect you to medal in this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted March 22, 2013 Share #29 Posted March 22, 2013 I think opening the doors at the final stop should be a summer Olympic event. That would open the doors faster. I expect you to medal in this event. Nah im good im in Front.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depotofrelax Posted March 22, 2013 Share #30 Posted March 22, 2013 IIRC the offical reason is it sets the train up for it's return trip, and they don't want them doing so while the train is still moving. well that's not exactly true. Ask any CR who works the C and the J and Z. Anything that runs with R32s or R42s is an exception since they're still half cabbed. The 7 is an exception becuase it's CRs stay in the same location on the train. Everyone else, on trains running with two linked muilti car units with full witdth cabs. the CR changes from the lead car of the second set (5th on 8 car trains, 6th on ten car trains) to the cab of what had been the last car of the lead set On the . R62A #1651 - #1830 are fully width cab both side cab are closed of the 5 cars unit set. Now R62A #2001 - #2155 become 5 cars unit?? Still it not fully width side cab are not closed. Still is single. if R62A on the ( #1711 - #1715 / #1966 - #1970.. were linked up. Which side conductor will open the door.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted March 23, 2013 Share #31 Posted March 23, 2013 I said the 7 is an exception because they stay in the same cab all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted March 23, 2013 Share #32 Posted March 23, 2013 I said the 7 is an exception because they stay in the same cab all the time... Well, it's depotofrelax you're talking too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted March 24, 2013 Share #33 Posted March 24, 2013 What does it mean to "dezone" a car? And in the terminal, why does the crew usually just key open 1 door per cab? I've noticed that on the L especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share #34 Posted March 24, 2013 What does it mean to "dezone" a car? And in the terminal, why does the crew usually just key open 1 door per cab? I've noticed that on the L especially. All the doors open at the final stop. After the passengers are off, the doors are closed except for one leaf per car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted March 24, 2013 Share #35 Posted March 24, 2013 Upon coming into a terminal the conductor has to shut down the door controls on the cab they were operating on and move the next car facing them and power up the door controls, then open the doors. Then usually the doors are shut down with only 1 door panel per car staying open so heat or air conditioning stays in the cars. Its not that hard to understand. If you feel it takes to long then you have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted March 24, 2013 Share #36 Posted March 24, 2013 All the doors open at the final stop. After the passengers are off, the doors are closed except for one leaf per car. The newer cars have the partial close door control that lets one of the doors stay open while the rest close. Cars R68A and older don't have it and the conductors will have to key open one door per car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted March 24, 2013 Share #37 Posted March 24, 2013 Now that this topic is open, I've always been curious how you key open a door- is there literally a special key to open each specific door, or you just press a button in the C/R's position to open individual doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted March 24, 2013 Share #38 Posted March 24, 2013 Now that this topic is open, I've always been curious how you key open a door- is there literally a special key to open each specific door, or you just press a button in the C/R's position to open individual doors? It's a literal key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted March 25, 2013 Share #39 Posted March 25, 2013 On a NTT, there is the partial close feature that allows a door panel in each car to remain open. On a non-NTT, we close the doors then key open a door panel. If you want to see how this is done, head over to Lefferts, Coney Island D platform, or Howard Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted April 14, 2013 There are exceptions to every rule. The Times Square shuttle is an exception. The T/O pulling the train into Times Square opens the doors because (s)he becomes the conductor on the return trip to Grand Central and will close the doors. Is the Franklin Avenue shuttle OPTO? If it is, does the T/O walk from one end of the train to the other to open the doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted April 14, 2013 Share #41 Posted April 14, 2013 There are exceptions to every rule. The Times Square shuttle is an exception. The T/O pulling the train into Times Square opens the doors because (s)he becomes the conductor on the return trip to Grand Central and will close the doors. Is the Franklin Avenue shuttle OPTO? If it is, does the T/O walk from one end of the train to the other to open the doors? Yes as is the Lefferts Shuttle on the Midnight's, the Rock ways Shuttle and the M Shuttle on the weekends. There is a procedure for that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share #42 Posted April 14, 2013 Yes as is the Lefferts Shuttle on the Midnight's, the Rock ways Shuttle and the M Shuttle on the weekends. There is a procedure for that as well. Seems like a long walk from one end of the train to the other end compared to moving to the cab in the next car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted April 14, 2013 Share #43 Posted April 14, 2013 They should just opened the door like any normal station. After people leave, they can close the doors and do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gong Gahou Posted April 14, 2013 Share #44 Posted April 14, 2013 Seems like a long walk from one end of the train to the other end compared to moving to the cab in the next car. Well, you're not going to see a shuttle of eight or ten cars since there isn't demand for it. If there is then sure, the conductor can move to the next car. But the way shuttles are now, there is no "cab in the next car". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share #45 Posted April 15, 2013 Well, you're not going to see a shuttle of eight or ten cars since there isn't demand for it. If there is then sure, the conductor can move to the next car. But the way shuttles are now, there is no "cab in the next car". How many cars are on the overnight Franklin Shuttle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gong Gahou Posted April 15, 2013 Share #46 Posted April 15, 2013 Franklin Avenue shuttle uses two-car sets. For Lefferts, the Rockaway, and the M shuttles, they use four-car sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share #47 Posted April 15, 2013 Franklin Avenue shuttle uses two-car sets. For Lefferts, the Rockaway, and the M shuttles, they use four-car sets. Is Franklin Avenue shuttle OPTO? I guess Lefferts, Rockaway and M shuttles have a conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 15, 2013 Share #48 Posted April 15, 2013 The Franklin is OPTO at sill times. 2 sets of trains (2 cars each) during the day and one set overnight. As for de-zoning, depends on the station. At Franklin, the T/O dumps the train, opens the doors, de-zones, then walk to the other end of the train and sets up from there. At Prospect Park, same thing but another T/O comes instead Is Franklin Avenue shuttle OPTO? I guess Lefferts, Rockaway and M shuttles have a conductor. Lefferts is OPTO Rockaway is OPTO all times except during the summer where they run full length trains shuttle is OPTO weekends only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gong Gahou Posted April 15, 2013 Share #49 Posted April 15, 2013 Correction, nostalgia - as Fresh Pond said, the Franklin Shuttle runs one set overnight, and the Rockaway Shuttle runs full length trains during the summer. I didn't know about that. So, other than the Rockaway Shuttle during the summer, all the other shuttles do not have a conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share #50 Posted April 15, 2013 Correction, nostalgia - as Fresh Pond said, the Franklin Shuttle runs one set overnight, and the Rockaway Shuttle runs full length trains during the summer. I didn't know about that. So, other than the Rockaway Shuttle during the summer, all the other shuttles do not have a conductor. And whoops, looking back at recent posts I thought you were talking about the conductor in the first place when you were talking about the train operator. Perhaps that's what got you confused. Sorry about that. I can get easily confused in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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