R32sdabest Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2151 Posted July 6, 2013 I didn't know the R142A's on the were that bad. The ones that I rode were good and the A/C was cold. What are the problems that the R142A's have? One of them is that they buckle.....a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreechyFlange Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2152 Posted July 6, 2013 When you Do Not work down here and make a comment such as that anything else is invalid.. Since There is No Lenox Repair Shops.. Smh.. Railfans... OK and Trainmaster already corrected me therefore you didn't need to make a comment, smh adults who don't know to use an ellipses mark correctly but have the nerve to insult others... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2153 Posted July 6, 2013 OK and Trainmaster already corrected me therefore you didn't need to make a comment, smh adults who don't know to use an ellipses mark correctly but have the nerve to insult others... A child correcting grammar on a message board>Not Much. Whatever helps you sleep.... Kiddo ill move the trains you can foam over them... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreechyFlange Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2154 Posted July 6, 2013 A child correcting grammar on a message board>Not Much. Whatever helps you sleep.... Kiddo ill move the trains you can foam over them... And then you couldn't even catch my mistake Ellipsis* lol, but I can't expect much from you when the instructors from your GED program didn't, PS it does help me sleep at night knowing my punctuation and grammar will increase my chances of success in life... Back to the 188 discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2155 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) And then you couldn't even catch my mistake Ellipsis* lol, but I can't expect much from you when the instructors from your GED program didn't, PS it does help me sleep at night knowing my punctuation and grammar will increase my chances of success in life... Back to the 188 discussion. Yet yer here on a Transit message board *acting* like you know what you are talking about... When you clearly was not and it when told about it, yet you got all huffy about like a kid would when scolded. By the time you are *successful* (Thats a BIG IF BTW)im most likely retired and slipping Pina Colada's at the beach.. You aren't impressing anybody son.. Maybe yer self... Go ride trains now... Ill keep moving them and laughing at kids like you who think they know it all. Class is dismissed.. Back to the R188 thread... Edited July 6, 2013 by RTOMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2156 Posted July 6, 2013 And then you couldn't even catch my mistake Ellipsis* lol, but I can't expect much from you when the instructors from your GED program didn't, PS it does help me sleep at night knowing my punctuation and grammar will increase my chances of success in life... Back to the 188 discussion. Simmer down now rudie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted July 6, 2013 Share #2157 Posted July 6, 2013 R62As are now running on the weekend on the i saw 2 running in the morning today one at parkchester and the other one at 14st. I can't say if they are running all 3 sets but if you ride the then you can keep track yourself on how many are out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2158 Posted July 7, 2013 One of them is that they buckle.....a lot. Two words: dead motors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2159 Posted July 7, 2013 Two words: dead motors. Two more words: trailer trucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2160 Posted July 7, 2013 The R42's used to buckle a lot and have dead motors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2161 Posted July 7, 2013 Two words: dead motors. This is not the reason for the bucking problem. Dead motors are rare and the bucking problem is not. The problem mainly has to do with the train line command for power. Bombardier designed their cars so that no car can take power until even with the controller in power position until the computer system senses that all brakes have been released train line. Kawasaki on the other hand didn't go with the same design. The bucking is a result of some cars with released brakes attempting to take power while other cars are still in the process of releasing brakes. Some of it which Bombardier experiences as well is a result of inconsistencies in the consumption of power from the third rail. I can't begin to tell you whether it's a third rail defect or a train defect but it does happen and a sizable arch can be seen when this occurs. Two more words: trailer trucks. Has absolutely nothing to do with it. Believe it or not the R62/62As experience it as well with arching and all of those trucks are motorized. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2162 Posted July 7, 2013 This is not the reason for the bucking problem. Dead motors are rare and the bucking problem is not. The problem mainly has to do with the train line command for power. Bombardier designed their cars so that no car can take power until even with the controller in power position until the computer system senses that all brakes have been released train line. Kawasaki on the other hand didn't go with the same design. The bucking is a result of some cars with released brakes attempting to take power while other cars are still in the process of releasing brakes. Some of it which Bombardier experiences as well is a result of inconsistencies in the consumption of power from the third rail. I can't begin to tell you whether it's a third rail defect or a train defect but it does happen and a sizable arch can be seen when this occurs. Has absolutely nothing to do with it. Believe it or not the R62/62As experience it as well with arching and all of those trucks are motorized. lolllll just got schooled, and it feels great XD. thanks for the long overdue correction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2163 Posted July 7, 2013 Do we still not know when the R188s are going to be in revenue service on the yet? or do we have a date yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2164 Posted July 7, 2013 Do we still not know when the R188s are going to be in revenue service on the yet? or do we have a date yet? ERROR: date not found. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2165 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) Do we still not know when the R188s are going to be in revenue service on the yet? or do we have a date yet? R188 7211-7215 are already testing on the its not known why 7216-7220 isnt testing with it as well , Did R62As 1746-1750 go back to Corona because now the other half of R62As 1741-1745 is cars from 240st yard. Edited July 7, 2013 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2166 Posted July 7, 2013 Ohh that buckling...i know what yall talking about...the R32s on the C make that noise when pulling off...it sounds as if all the cars are jammed together...and when it pulls off the cars space apart alittle..sounds cool 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2167 Posted July 7, 2013 Ohh that buckling...i know what yall talking about...the R32s on the C make that noise when pulling off...it sounds as if all the cars are jammed together...and when it pulls off the cars space apart alittle..sounds cool Either Westchester Yard did a shit job with maintenance, or the initial build quality was ass. I hated the because of that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2168 Posted July 7, 2013 I don't remember the R142As being that bad when those cars were new. I also don't think the ones on the 4 buckle as badly as the ones on the 6. So it could be age and/or westchester. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2169 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) I don't remember the R142As being that bad when those cars were new. I also don't think the ones on the 4 buckle as badly as the ones on the 6. So it could be age and/or westchester. Its most likely just westchester maintaining it bad and the being on the local line for over 10 yrs took its toll on the R142As while on the hopefully the R62As will get maintained as well by westchester as they do now by corona and like they did when westchester yard hard them in the late 80s -2002. Edited July 7, 2013 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2170 Posted July 7, 2013 Yeah, the R62As ran fine on the 6 before the move to Corona. It could also be that since the R142As are being taken to be converted, (not accusing or saying that's the reason), but it might be the attitude about 'why bother to fix them up?' and 'let someone else take care of them.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2171 Posted July 7, 2013 Its most likely just westchester maintaining it bad and the being on the local line for over 10 yrs took its toll on the R142As while on the hopefully the R62As will get maintained as well by westchester as they do now by corona and like they did when westchester yard hard them in the late 80s -2002. You can't blame Westchester for the buckling because the R143 does it too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2172 Posted July 7, 2013 You can't blame Westchester for the buckling because the R143 does it too. No you can't , but you can deffinetly blame them for how horrible and beat up that the R142As look , you can blame them for how beat up they run , and each time i get on an R142A on the there is always an led light or a strip map that doesn't work and the ride isn't the same as like R142As on the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2173 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) Alright since I keep on hearing this R142As look so bad and beat up on the subject thing in this thread, is it okay if I say that all this in part also has to do with the present headway? I mean its a 24/7 line with very heavy ridership. That's why it runs so frequently at three or six minute headways during most of the weekdays, not to mention those Parkchester turn-arounds. It's quite obvious that the R142As don't get enough rest on that line, like the R143s on the or the R46s on the (the latter of which has one of the older cars in the system). Edited July 7, 2013 by RollOverMyHead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2174 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) Alright since I keep on hearing this R142As look so bad and beat up on the subject thing in this thread, is it okay if I say that all this in part also has to do with the present headway? I mean its a 24/7 line with very heavy ridership. That's why it runs so frequently at three or six minute headways during most of the weekdays, not to mention those Parkchester turn-arounds. It's quite obvious that the R142As don't get enough rest on that line, like the R143s on the or the R46s on the (the latter of which has one of the older cars in the system). Same thing with the its even worst but their R142As arent near as bad as the yes the is local and it is more work but it as well has to do with westchester maintaining the R142As , It also has to do that since westchester is loosing the R142As to conversions and are getting their R62As back the crew are probably mad and are beating up the R142As with the mentality that 'another yard will repair the trains anyway why take care of them'. . Edited July 7, 2013 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted July 7, 2013 Share #2175 Posted July 7, 2013 I can tell you one thing, The R142A looks better than the R142. Shiner and cleaner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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