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On 2/8/2019 at 8:48 PM, Lawrence St said:

Were the C cars and factory set R188's fully built at Kawasaki?

Similar to the R160 manufacturing, with the carbodies being built at Nebraska and final assembly and testing at Yonkers.

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What they should’ve done with the 188s that the plate numbers should’ve went on the bottom to match those of the WF cars. 

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23 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

What they should’ve done with the 188s that the plate numbers should’ve went on the bottom to match those of the WF cars. 

Nahhh

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Perhaps the reason why plate numbers are no longer on the bottom is because they're hard to read when they're that low?

(I'm looking at you PATH) 

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16 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Perhaps the reason why plate numbers are no longer on the bottom is because they're hard to read when they're that low?

(I'm looking at you PATH) 

Not really (looks at PATH), at least the (TA) could’ve put the plate numbers next to the windows on the not low 

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Ads are coming in on the outside of this type of subway car. 

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7 hours ago, Calvin said:

Ads are coming in on the outside of this type of subway car. 

Oh nooo, not again. 

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7556 has TV advertisements on-board the car besides 7848. 

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Been a while, I see!

Heads up for R-62A fleet changes after the August 16 start of Grand Central Shuttle reconstruction.

Possibility of more R-62A's heading to the (6), or maybe to work service.  Maybe secondary moves involving the (1)?  Maybe even the (3)??

The plan is to have future service provided by two 6-car links (R-188?  From (7)?) with operational CBTC.

In any case it all starts in 13 days when Track 1 is "retired" (temporarily).

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On 8/3/2019 at 2:27 PM, m2fwannabe said:

Been a while, I see!

Heads up for R-62A fleet changes after the August 16 start of Grand Central Shuttle reconstruction.

Possibility of more R-62A's heading to the (6), or maybe to work service.  Maybe secondary moves involving the (1)?  Maybe even the (3)??

The plan is to have future service provided by two 6-car links (R-188?  From (7)?) with operational CBTC.

In any case it all starts in 13 days when Track 1 is "retired" (temporarily).

So the word is, the LIV R-62A fleet gets reduced to about 15 in favor of an enlarged contingent at WES.  Sounds like 5 or 6 cars will be moving on to the (6).

When construction is far enough along to introduce 6-car trains, the plan is to modify three sets of existing (4) R-142A's from 5's to 6's.

Later equipment replacement may grow out of the developing R-262 contract.

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2 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

When construction is far enough along to introduce 6-car trains, the plan is to modify three sets of existing (4) R-142A's from 5's to 6's.

Woah, I wasn't expecting that...

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4 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

So the word is, the LIV R-62A fleet gets reduced to about 15 in favor of an enlarged contingent at WES.  Sounds like 5 or 6 cars will be moving on to the (6).

When construction is far enough along to introduce 6-car trains, the plan is to modify three sets of existing (4) R-142A's from 5's to 6's.

Later equipment replacement may grow out of the developing R-262 contract.

WOW! Thanks for the update. Where are they going to get those three cars to make them 6-car sets?

 

On 8/3/2019 at 2:27 PM, m2fwannabe said:

Been a while, I see!

Heads up for R-62A fleet changes after the August 16 start of Grand Central Shuttle reconstruction.

Possibility of more R-62A's heading to the (6), or maybe to work service.  Maybe secondary moves involving the (1)?  Maybe even the (3)??

The plan is to have future service provided by two 6-car links (R-188?  From (7)?) with operational CBTC.

In any case it all starts in 13 days when Track 1 is "retired" (temporarily).

Do you know anything else about the phasing for the project? Also, do you know when Track 1 will go out of service? August 15th, or the 16th at 6 a.m. or something like that?

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24 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

WOW! Thanks for the update. Where are they going to get those three cars to make them 6-car sets?

The links are being earmarked as we speak.  My best info suggests they will be from the R-142A fleet currently assigned to (4).  Eventually.

Its no secret that the R-142's or really ANY unitized NTT equipment is quite adaptable in terms of desired train length, so while it would be no big deal to make up a six-car set as opposed to a five, it would be necessary to remove four 5-car links from the revenue pool to do so.  That would yield the three extra "B" cars to do so, but of necessity leave 2 excess "A" cars for use as spares.  As long as the cars' electrical connections face the right way at each end, the car numbering sequence is secondary.  If you might remember, NYCT tried some 11-car R-160 trains on the (E) and (F) several years ago and they basically worked quite well, but were limited operationally by off-route platform lengths.

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45 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

Do you know anything else about the phasing for the project? Also, do you know when Track 1 will go out of service? August 15th, or the 16th at 6 a.m. or something like that?

Nothing more than has been posted.  The project life is about 2½ years.

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49 minutes ago, Union Tpke said:

 Also, do you know when Track 1 will go out of service? August 15th, or the 16th at 6 a.m. or something like that?

I would imagine end of the day on the 16th (which is a Friday)

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6 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

So the word is, the LIV R-62A fleet gets reduced to about 15 in favor of an enlarged contingent at WES.  Sounds like 5 or 6 cars will be moving on to the (6).

When construction is far enough along to introduce 6-car trains, the plan is to modify three sets of existing (4) R-142A's from 5's to 6's.

Later equipment replacement may grow out of the developing R-262 contract.

This may move the units that didn't receive the special treatment like 1931-27-52 and 40. 

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On 8/4/2019 at 8:48 PM, m2fwannabe said:

The links are being earmarked as we speak.  My best info suggests they will be from the R-142A fleet currently assigned to (4).  Eventually.

Its no secret that the R-142's or really ANY unitized NTT equipment is quite adaptable in terms of desired train length, so while it would be no big deal to make up a six-car set as opposed to a five, it would be necessary to remove four 5-car links from the revenue pool to do so.  That would yield the three extra "B" cars to do so, but of necessity leave 2 excess "A" cars for use as spares.  As long as the cars' electrical connections face the right way at each end, the car numbering sequence is secondary.  If you might remember, NYCT tried some 11-car R-160 trains on the (E) and (F) several years ago and they basically worked quite well, but were limited operationally by off-route platform lengths.

Seems they could use the extra cab cars for the Flushing garbage train. ..

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On 8/4/2019 at 8:48 PM, m2fwannabe said:

The links are being earmarked as we speak.  My best info suggests they will be from the R-142A fleet currently assigned to (4).  Eventually.

Its no secret that the R-142's or really ANY unitized NTT equipment is quite adaptable in terms of desired train length, so while it would be no big deal to make up a six-car set as opposed to a five, it would be necessary to remove four 5-car links from the revenue pool to do so.  That would yield the three extra "B" cars to do so, but of necessity leave 2 excess "A" cars for use as spares.  As long as the cars' electrical connections face the right way at each end, the car numbering sequence is secondary.  If you might remember, NYCT tried some 11-car R-160 trains on the (E) and (F) several years ago and they basically worked quite well, but were limited operationally by off-route platform lengths.

11 car R160's? When was this?

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Posted (edited)

There's an antenna near the circle on the R188 set: 7491-7495 with 7356-7360 (C car included)

 

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Since when do the R188 have electronic digital ads? I'm on 7582 and there are 4 of these square ads.

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2 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

Since when do the R188 have electronic digital ads? I'm on 7582 and there are 4 of these square ads.

That’s been there for a while now

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