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Ok. You think can Corona Yard can handle 506 R188 cars & additional R62A??? If R142A were to return to it mainline... Will it be much more eaiser for Corona Yard that home of 7 line. Yes. There are handling 400 cars of R62A.. Corona Yard is in Queens a I.R.T divison. Not in the Bronx moslty IRT divison.. Corona Yard does not have space to handle 506 R188 cars or additonal set R62A.

The Corona Yard can handle 506 R188 cars, the extension project included tail tracks in case there isn't tracks available at the yard during off-hours and the weekends, lets face it there are maintenance trains using a few tracks at Corona.

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Ok. I Corona think handle 506 R188s can. R188 not may back return mainline to. Maybe MTA convert can handle cars more to. R142A called now R188 BTW. Why compare also to Bronx Queens with.

Ok. I agree with you. Then you know there 473 R188 options are pending.  370 option are pending i hope it Bombardier R142 from 239 street yard from 2 line i hope. lol.  guess. 370 cars to be converted to R188 i hope it Bombardier. I hope Kawasaki Rail car built 103 cars R188 new cars. When Bombardier building R179.. I am guessing. People who complain against R142 of 2 line should be converted to R188 next. I hope so.. It a guess. 

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Ok. I agree with you. Then you know there 473 R188 options are pending.  370 option are pending i hope it Bombardier R142 from 239 street yard from 2 line i hope. lol.  guess. 370 cars to be converted to R188 i hope it Bombardier. I hope Kawasaki Rail car built 103 cars R188 new cars. When Bombardier building R179.. I am guessing. People who complain against R142 of 2 line should be converted to R188 next. I hope so.. It a guess. 

 

RE:| OK

 

 

 

Aaaanyway... here's where manufactured R188s currently are:

 

Unionport/E180 St. Yards

R142A Conversions/C-cars: 7215-7220, 7899

R188 New Cars: 7811-7826

 

Kawasaki Yonkers Facility or Unknown Location:

R188 New Cars - base order: 7827-7832

R188 New Cars - option order: 7833-7870

 

 

 

Please add some spottings if you see any R188s, and I will try to post an update soon!

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Ok. I agree with you. Then you know there 473 R188 options are pending.  370 option are pending i hope it Bombardier R142 from 239 street yard from 2 line i hope. lol.  guess. 370 cars to be converted to R188 i hope it Bombardier. I hope Kawasaki Rail car built 103 cars R188 new cars. When Bombardier building R179.. I am guessing. People who complain against R142 of 2 line should be converted to R188 next. I hope so.. It a guess. 

Like I explained to you its 380 R142A conversions not 370 and ALL are from the (6) none from the (4). Where did the R142 come from its Kawasaki doing the conversions they are converting the R142A s not R142s. The R142 are built by bombardier and R142As were built by kawasaki. Back on 2009 when the MTA awarded the R188 contract bombardier backed out and didn't want it that's why the R142 from the (2) or (5) are not being converted with cbtc,So automatically Kawasaki got awarded the contract so the R142As are being converted and all 380 are coming from the (6).The R142 on the (2) or (5) are NOT being touched and are staying there and will not be going anywhere the only changes car assignments wise in the A division will be R188s on the (7) and R62As back on the (6) with the remaining 5 sets of R62As likely on the (4). My Advice to you is enjoy the R142As on the (6) cause there will only be about 5 sets after late next year-early 2015 and all R62As will be OFF of the (7).

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Well if there are going to be extra R62as, I don't see why they'd need to go to the 4, you may as well send a few of the 6's R142as to the 4 and keep all the R62as from the 7 on the 6. I still say that once the 7 is all R188s, they should send the remaining R142as on the 6 to the 4 (swap some R142s) and have the 4 have all the R142as on the mainline.

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Well if there are going to be extra R62as, I don't see why they'd need to go to the 4, you may as well send a few of the 6's R142as to the 4 and keep all the R62as from the 7 on the 6. I still say that once the 7 is all R188s, they should send the remaining R142as on the 6 to the 4 (swap some R142s) and have the 4 have all the R142as on the mainline.

The only reason the remaining R62As are even being considered for the (4) is for more cars rush hours and for Yankee games.

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The only reason the remaining R62As are even being considered for the (4) is for more cars rush hours and for Yankee games.

 

But don't you think those cars should be those leftover 70 R142As from Westchester and bring those extra R62As to the (6) so Westchester is 100% R62As while Jerome continues to be 100% R142/142As?

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But don't you think those cars should be those leftover 70 R142As from Westchester and bring those extra R62As to the (6) so Westchester is 100% R62As while Jerome continues to be 100% R142/142As?

I personally think its best to send those remaining R142A from westchester to the (4) like you said and just bring those remaining R62As to the (6)

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You don't need to have a small fleet of r62as on the 4 for rush hours and games specials. The 4 gets by fine with r142/as doing that.

 

But don't you think those cars should be those leftover 70 R142As from Westchester and bring those extra R62As to the (6) so Westchester is 100% R62As while Jerome continues to be 100% R142/142As?

theres no way to make the 6 100% R62as. The 6 has more cars than the 7, so it will still have a small 2nd fleet of trains.
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But don't you think those cars should be those leftover 70 R142As from Westchester and bring those extra R62As to the (6) so Westchester is 100% R62As while Jerome continues to be 100% R142/142As?

The (6) has about 430 R142As and the (7) runs 400 R62As so even though by late late next year-early 2015 there will be 380 R62As on the (6) there is still going to be about 20 remaining R62As and about 50 R142As so yes you can still put the 20 remaining R62As on the (6) and send 20 R142As to the (4) but there will still be roughly about 50 R142As left on the (6) so the (6) can't be 100% R62As.

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Why doesn't anyone want diversity? Honestly, I think it would be the best if the (6) had both R62A's and R142A's. 

The (6) as its fleet will be having 380 R62As and there will be just 50 R142As and people don't want diversity because it will be easier for westchester yard to just maintain the R62As and not need to maintain both R62A and R142As. The R142As will likely be used for just rush hours or if an R62A has to go to the yard then an R142A will come out of the yard take it's place.Other than that don't expect to see the R142As running as much on the (6) after early 2015. 

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@R62ar33: Well I don't see the 1 giving up their r62as to make the 6 100% r62as. And I'm not sure if the 240th st yard can maintain the r142as. Also the 6 has been maintaining the ntt fleet for over a decade, there's no need to keep the remaining ntt trains isolated.

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@R62ar33: Well I don't see the 1 giving up their r62as to make the 6 100% r62as. And I'm not sure if the 240th st yard can maintain the r142as. Also the 6 has been maintaining the ntt fleet for over a decade, there's no need to keep the remaining ntt trains isolated.

240st yard isn't ready to maintain NTTs it's not updated yet to be able to maintain it so we know the remaining R142As can't go to the (1). Even though westchester has been maintaining them for over a decade they likely will just run the R142As on rush hours or if an R62A has to go to the yard for a little bit then that is when we will see it. Besides if anything the (6) should just get the remaining 20 R62As as well to make it 400 R62As and then like you said have the remaing 50 R142As go to the (4) for 50 R142s that way westchester just maintains R142 and R62As considering both were made by bombardier.The way they are going if the Remaining R142As stay on the (6) they will might as well have retire first when its time for the R142As to retire considering how beat up they are especially since they are not even 15 years old yet.

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What remaining R62As? Is there some secret fleet we don't know about? All of the 7's fleet is going to the 6 anyway.

There are 400 R62As currently assigned to the (7) and by early 2015 there is suppposed to be 380 R62As on the (6) cause that is how many R142As they are losing to conversions. That leaves you with 20 R62As remaning and it is not known yet wether they will go the (4),or if the (1) will get back the R62As they lost to the (7) in 2002 cause the (1) gave exactly 20 R62As to the (7) or if westchester yard will get them and then swap 20 or 30 R142As to the (4) for R142s.

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Where do you get your numbers from? I would suspect the 380 would be the ones in service and the 20 spares.

yep you got it. That's why it is not known where those 20 spares will go to. The Options is the (1) getting back the 20 R62As it lost in 2002 to the (7).It can be the (4) getting them for Yankee Games and rush hours, or it can be westchester yard getting those 20 spares as well then swapping 20 or 30 R142As to the (4) in exchange for 20 or 30 R142s.

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