R32 3838 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2201 Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Oh yea if anyone is interested in knowing what happened to the R32s that were in fresh pond, 6 out of the 8 are gone, 3786/7 are the only pairs and its currently doing work service, 3379/1,3630/1 and 3836/7 are gone Edited December 10, 2013 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2202 Posted December 10, 2013 Correction 3370/1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2203 Posted December 10, 2013 Gone = scrap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2204 Posted December 10, 2013 Yup, they were sent to scrap in october 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2205 Posted December 10, 2013 Thanks for the information, Mr. Henderson. I remember reading up a few pages back that those cars were actually back into service. I keep on thinking they now had 230 R32 leftover sets, but its still relatively 222. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2206 Posted December 10, 2013 yeah they mistakenly put 3370/1 onto a train and ran it in service in the Winter time between last year in early 2013 as soon as they fount out, they took it off the road, 3370/1 was a tow train for transporting SMS cars back from CI and sending 207th R32's to get SMS'ed 222 for service 12 for Work service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 10, 2013 Share #2207 Posted December 10, 2013 From my understanding it will happen next year, the swap worked last year The SMS is complete on the 8 car R160's it looks, or will be very soon. So is it safe to say that we will see the usual routine this summer with R46's and R32's involved in the Summer 2014 / swap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 11, 2013 Share #2208 Posted December 11, 2013 They're not doing the & no more, the ©/(J) swap is a even swap, the A/C swap requires more cars that means borrowing from Jamaica and ENY, plus the A didn't solve the AC issue it was basically the same, the J had less AC issues than the A As for the R160A1 SMS its not complete, half the fleet still needs to be sms'ed-upgraded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 11, 2013 Share #2209 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) If I am understanding this correctly, the R32s on the were not doing as well when compared to the BMT Eastern Division as the underground tunnels are hot indeed, often reaching excesses of 110 degrees fahrenheit. The environment of the Nassau Street/Jamaica El is more promising as the ROW is mostly outdoors. As NYC Transit does finalize on this as a solution to the problem with the ongoing R160 SMS then it should work. As in the process it does not disrupt current R46 assignments on the IND 8th Ave line as an added benefit. So I would have to say by logic that the source of the news seems very sensible to me. Edited December 11, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 11, 2013 Share #2210 Posted December 11, 2013 As understood, the R46s have one of the lowest MDBFs because of their age and that they run on three longer lines: . That's also why Pitkin's R46s are beaten more than Jamaica's, as the is the longest than any other line in the system (Inwood to Far Rockaway) and also runs 24/7. The usually has a small number of R46s and the is a part-time line. But with the Montague tube closed, most of Jamaica's R46s end up running 24/7 as well, instead of part-time. It was nice having those 222 50-year old cars on the system's longest line, but I have to understand the important factors of why the is clearly the best solution for the R32s to breathe in the heated temperatures. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 12, 2013 Share #2211 Posted December 12, 2013 They'll run on the probably when the R46's are at CI getting sms'ed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 17, 2013 Share #2212 Posted December 17, 2013 Since the Rockaway S is a full 600' for the beach crowds, why not put the R32s there? they need a c/r anyway and the line is very short. That said, I'm fine with the swap with the J. It makes more sense as the majority of the line is above ground and that's good for the R32s. Not to mention at least the view is better on the J than mostly tunnels with the A, till it gets to Queens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 17, 2013 Share #2213 Posted December 17, 2013 Good questions and good points but wild guess: Because the SMEE's will have easier access to the yards for light maintainance at Pitkin or/and because of 207th street maintainance/overhaul shops? Also what will replace the rolling stock on the IND 8th Ave if the R46's are going through its sms? Same as last year because the R160s I think are also being SMSed or at least finishing up the job? This will be interesting how they figure this out come this hot summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted December 18, 2013 Share #2214 Posted December 18, 2013 SMS is usually mostly eaten by spares. When the Pitkin R46s are going through SMS, you may see an R46 train from Jamaica show up, or an R32 train from 207 run on the A. When the Jamaica R46s are being SMSed you could see an R160 from CIYD come up to JAM or an R46 from Pitkin. Either way, not something which results in major changes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 18, 2013 Share #2215 Posted December 18, 2013 R46 SMS has started http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1264855 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted December 18, 2013 Share #2216 Posted December 18, 2013 R46 SMS has started http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1264855 Seems like they just went through an SMS a few years ago. Good to see transit is taking care of the older rolling stock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 18, 2013 Share #2217 Posted December 18, 2013 It's also quite important for any failing components to be replaced and/or fixed on a New York City Subway car. And that's exactly what SMS is all about. That also includes minority of repaint and/or minority of replacement of vandalized windows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 19, 2013 Share #2218 Posted December 19, 2013 the last R46 SMS was between 2008-10 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 19, 2013 Share #2219 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Seems like they just went through an SMS a few years ago. Good to see transit is taking care of the older rolling stock. R46 SMS has started http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1264855 I agree, much appreciated. Keep the SMEEs and Space Age cars going until the new B Div NTT'S come on the scene. I take the R32 every day almost if work or school, love the ride N/B Cranberry tunnel. Fast. Man I just reak of foamer mentality.... Edited December 19, 2013 by realizm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 19, 2013 Share #2220 Posted December 19, 2013 I agree, much appreciated. Keep the SMEEs and Space Age cars going until the new B Div NTT'S come on the scene. I take the R32 every day almost if work or school, love the ride N/B Cranberry tunnel. Fast. Man I just reak of foamer mentality.... Don't flatter yourself, I've seen much worse, elsewhere at that. In regard to fanning that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 19, 2013 Share #2221 Posted December 19, 2013 I take the R32 every day almost if work or school, love the ride N/B Cranberry tunnel. Fast. Man I just reak of foamer mentality.... The fastest was 45 MPH on fewer trains I've been on, midway through the Cranberry tube. Some operators actually know how to clear the timers in the subway system. Most others just keep hauling until they brake near (or at) the timer clearing points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted December 19, 2013 Share #2222 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Man I just reak of foamer mentality.... There is nothing foamerish about enjoying old cars, though some people would have you believe it to be. It's simply having a differing opinion from others. Edited December 19, 2013 by ttcsubwayfan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted December 22, 2013 Share #2223 Posted December 22, 2013 Since the Rockaway S is a full 600' for the beach crowds, why not put the R32s there? they need a c/r anyway and the line is very short. That said, I'm fine with the swap with the J. It makes more sense as the majority of the line is above ground and that's good for the R32s. Not to mention at least the view is better on the J than mostly tunnels with the A, till it gets to Queens. The Rock Park shuttle runs short trains on weekdays year-round - only on weekends do long trains typically run in the summer. And weekdays are when fleet size is a constraint. Car assignments are not determined based on the view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 22, 2013 Share #2224 Posted December 22, 2013 There is nothing foamerish about enjoying old cars, though some people would have you believe it to be. It's simply having a differing opinion from others. I give credit where its due to NTTs like my R188's I must have rode it I swear 20 times on day one and two combined. But man those R40 slants were the shit. Those cars did justice to the MTA after all initial bugs were worked out in the case of the slant end design which I love. Foam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 22, 2013 Share #2225 Posted December 22, 2013 In the summer of 2011 they ran R32's on the shuttle that first weekend after the swap, the sides were signed up as and the front was S, but after that weekend they ran nothing but R46's, the summer of 2012 it was gonna happen again but the dispatcher assigned that R32 on the , at least they ran on the for a month post sandy But I think it would have been smart to run R32's on the shuttle during the summer months instead of R46's, its only 4 stops and its outside 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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