Turbo19 Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2251 Posted December 24, 2013 Well I hear ya. Nothing wrong with having a little fun f**king off and sorts. Its all good. Fun is one thing, but it's not so much about that, rather the responses and how heavy they are in regard to something that's relatively non serious. I'm not pissed off or anything, but shit. Throw the rolling papers. I'm off to get a drink. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2252 Posted December 24, 2013 The R32/R160 swap was entirely independent of anything to do with SMS or other upgrades to the R143/R160 fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2253 Posted December 24, 2013 The R32/R160 swap was entirely independent of anything to do with SMS or other upgrades to the R143/R160 fleet. Thanks for the info. Back on topic hopefully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJC Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2254 Posted December 24, 2013 I was saying only during the summer months between memorial day and labor day on the shuttle, Yes, I know what you were saying. Weekday summer ridership does not generally require more than the usual 300 foot OPTO shuttle trains. How would you justify the use of the extra cars and conductors? Car assignments are not determined according to the desires of railfans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2255 Posted December 24, 2013 None of the swaps resulted in cars being reassigned between maintenance shops. Before, during and after the swap was complete, ENY(R32, R42, R143, R160) Pitkin(R46) and 207 (R32) each maintained the same fleets of cars. I've never said that the swaps resulted in the cars being reassigned between the shops. I only pointed out the two issues with the R32 swap to the and , respectively. Also, since you've mention, then why were the ENY R160s sent back and fourth due to 207th/Pitkin's inability to maintain the fleet? And why were the R32s that ran on the were maintain at ENY during the time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2256 Posted December 24, 2013 It had nothing to do with the inability of Pitkin/207 to maintain the fleet. Because of the a/c design of the R32 fleet, since they only had so much room under the car body to convert from fans to a/c, the a/c system would overheat since the cars were constantly underground on the C. And putting them on the A for the short time they were above ground didn't matter. So they put half the R32's on the J/Z to see how better they would do. Despite the swap of equipment, when the cars came due for inspection, the R32's were transferred back to 207 and the R160's were transferred back to ENY. The cars were not maintained in "foreign" barns. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted December 24, 2013 Share #2257 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) It had nothing to do with the inability of Pitkin/207 to maintain the fleet. Because of the a/c design of the R32 fleet, since they only had so much room under the car body to convert from fans to a/c, the a/c system would overheat since the cars were constantly underground on the C. And putting them on the A for the short time they were above ground didn't matter. So they put half the R32's on the J/Z to see how better they would do. Despite the swap of equipment, when the cars came due for inspection, the R32's were transferred back to 207 and the R160's were transferred back to ENY. The cars were not maintained in "foreign" barns. Wasn't another contributor to the issue the more frequent opening of the doors (and associated loss of cold air) on a local run? If it was, then I could see this being an argument for why the R32s were put on the A. Edited December 24, 2013 by Dj Hammers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2258 Posted December 25, 2013 With all those R32's on the A many times an R32 was out there on the midnight hours...........A train all local stops to/from Far Rock...........this meant very frequent opening of doors too since the A was not express during those hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2259 Posted December 25, 2013 With all those R32's on the A many times an R32 was out there on the midnight hours...........A train all local stops to/from Far Rock...........this meant very frequent opening of doors too since the A was not express during those hours. That is a good point. However, wouldn't the fact that it is cooler at night negate that effect? Or do the tunnels retain heat well enough that they stay hot overnight? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2260 Posted December 25, 2013 Wait so theres R32s on the now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2261 Posted December 25, 2013 Wait so theres R32s on the now? Not at this time sir. This was in reference to an earlier event this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2262 Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Apparently someone caught an R32 G (6 cars) head car was 3440, there's a picture of it, also apparently an 8 car R42 is at CIY as well, also when I was at ditmas ave I heard a train that sounded like an R32 when I was on street level, I didn't think it would be an R32 Edited December 25, 2013 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2263 Posted December 25, 2013 This sounds interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2264 Posted December 25, 2013 I think its due to some R160B's being SMS and getting their HVACs overhauled Basically if all of its true, they'll only be for service 6 car trains, bumping the R68's to the N to cover for the consist of a set of R160s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2265 Posted December 25, 2013 Which is why we started to hear of railfans spotting and proving R68 consists running on the BMT. It's like we are all connecting the dots here to paint a scenerio. In other news the R188's are running again.... And the pic, crosslinked from another thread: This is not my pic, Copyright to Emil, Im just sharing this pic to see if any one knows why this is on the Today http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43732-r32-g-today/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2266 Posted December 25, 2013 Yea there's an R42 set in CI, one of the head cars is 4801 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2267 Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Yea there's an R42 set in CI, one of the head cars is 4801 Seems like it came from the , i rode 4801 on the about a month or 2 ago.. will it run on the ? to cover for a R160 Edited December 25, 2013 by R62AR33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2268 Posted December 25, 2013 Yea there's an R42 set in CI, one of the head cars is 4801 I hope it runs on the . Wherever it goes there will be plenty of foam. Seems like it came from the , i rode 4801 on the about a month or 2 ago.. will it run on the ? to cover for a R160 Using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 25, 2013 Share #2269 Posted December 25, 2013 They're not for service, its ether for the or for heavy work, there's only 8 cars there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 26, 2013 Share #2270 Posted December 26, 2013 Why would they be running on the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 26, 2013 Share #2271 Posted December 26, 2013 Why would they be running on the ? Likely because it seems as if they'll throw anything on it at this time. As I was joking with someone earlier, they might as well throw a set of 127's or 134's on the for the trouble. Probably be better irnically as it's all standees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 29, 2013 Share #2272 Posted December 29, 2013 Likely because it seems as if they'll throw anything on it at this time. As I was joking with someone earlier, they might as well throw a set of 127's or 134's on the for the trouble. Probably be better irnically as it's all standees. And they have no windows. The R32 are still making their rounds around the system. I never expected the R32's to ever be on any line except the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 29, 2013 Share #2273 Posted December 29, 2013 And they have no windows. The R32 are still making their rounds around the system. I never expected the R32's to ever be on any line except the . About that, there's insider info as t what happened on the 25th, but the actual source wishes it remains confidential. At any rate the garbage trains would actually make greater sense truthfully, which should be a sign as to how far fetched this whole idea actually is, if anything else at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 29, 2013 Share #2274 Posted December 29, 2013 About that, there's insider info as t what happened on the 25th, but the actual source wishes it remains confidential. At any rate the garbage trains would actually make greater sense truthfully, which should be a sign as to how far fetched this whole idea actually is, if anything else at all. Why is it confidential to what actually happened? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 29, 2013 Share #2275 Posted December 29, 2013 Why is it confidential to what actually happened? It's to remain confidential as to further elaborate in detail would compromise much of what was to believed happened or otherwise occurred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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