R32 3838 Posted January 4 Share #301 Posted January 4 Just now, Lawrence St said: Unless I'm mistaken, does JC's platform not have those 2 train length long trail tracks at the end? Those tail tracks can fit 30 cars on each track. Totaling 6 sets in total for lay ups. The issue is the switch placement between Supthin and Parsons. It's dead in the middle meaning this hampers the 's TPH. This is one thing should have addressed years ago esp if they want to do CBTC in that section in the future. CBTC on the Archer ave line would be pointless because of this Flaw, This is why it's not slatted for CBTC while the between 179th and union is. JC wasn't even supposed to be a terminal is the reason why on both levels the switch placement is in the middle and not close to the terminal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Author Share #302 Posted January 5 12 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Then how will Culver CBTC recognize them then? Different software.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted January 5 Share #303 Posted January 5 CBTC being done in patchwork by differing vendors is gonna bite transit in the ass down the line I guarantee it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Share #304 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Comrade96 said: CBTC being done in patchwork by differing vendors is gonna bite transit in the ass down the line I guarantee it I was just about to mention this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted January 5 Share #305 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Lawrence St said: I was just about to mention this. like sure theyre DESIGNED to be compatible with one another IN THEORY real life may play differently.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Share #306 Posted January 5 Just now, Comrade96 said: like sure theyre DESIGNED to be compatible with one another IN THEORY real life may play differently.... Right, because QBL CBTC can't recognize a 5 car train but Culver CBTC can? What type of backwards engineering is that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 5 Share #307 Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Right, because QBL CBTC can't recognize a 5 car train but Culver CBTC can? What type of backwards engineering is that! Hopefully the is 8 or 10 cars by that point. Also we don’t know if Culver CBTC will be able to recognize a 5 Car Train as of yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Author Share #308 Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Comrade96 said: CBTC being done in patchwork by differing vendors is gonna bite transit in the ass down the line I guarantee it Already has.... That's why the Culver Line still isn't completed yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Author Share #309 Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Right, because QBL CBTC can't recognize a 5 car train but Culver CBTC can? What type of backwards engineering is that! Its called.. "You get what you pay for"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Author Share #310 Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, LGA Link N Train said: Hopefully the is 8 or 10 cars by that point. Also we don’t know if Culver CBTC will be able to recognize a 5 Car Train as of yet. That's part of the Delay.. Somebody forgot that the G has five car units that goes to Culver Yard for lay ups.. Oh well i dont get paid enough to worry about such things... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5 Share #311 Posted January 5 13 minutes ago, RTOMan said: That's part of the Delay.. Somebody forgot that the G has five car units that goes to Culver Yard for lay ups.. Oh well i dont get paid enough to worry about such things... That’s insane. Does no one read the engineering documents before starting work?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 5 Author Share #312 Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: That’s insane. Does no one read the engineering documents before starting work?? Rule 10 prevents me from commenting further.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 5 Share #313 Posted January 5 5 hours ago, RTOMan said: That's part of the Delay.. Somebody forgot that the G has five car units that goes to Culver Yard for lay ups.. Oh well i dont get paid enough to worry about such things... Guess we wait until Option 1 for the 211 order I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A-6-Train Posted January 15 Share #314 Posted January 15 Since the tunnel shutdown is coming to an end, do you think maybe it'll be acceptable to see a permanent change in tunnel swaps? I mean, service will remain via 53rd, while service remains via 63rd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 15 Author Share #315 Posted January 15 6 hours ago, R142A-6-Train said: Since the tunnel shutdown is coming to an end, do you think maybe it'll be acceptable to see a permanent change in tunnel swaps? I mean, service will remain via 53rd, while service remains via 63rd. As much as i like that idea.. They prob wont do it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A-6-Train Posted January 15 Share #316 Posted January 15 5 hours ago, RTOMan said: As much as i like that idea.. They prob wont do it.. Let's hope they do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 16 Share #317 Posted January 16 11 hours ago, R142A-6-Train said: Let's hope they do. There was a planned pilot program that would’ve implemented the / Swap back in April of 2020, but with the end of Andy Byford’s Tenure in NYCT and COVID also hitting the world around that time, it never happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 16 Share #318 Posted January 16 The 63rd street tube allows more F service. And I’m not sure they’re keen on the idea of having the F bounce between the two tubes every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 16 Author Share #319 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: The 63rd street tube allows more F service. And I’m not sure they’re keen on the idea of having the F bounce between the two tubes every day. Yet with Full CBTC in effect it could happen though... That's why it won't! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A-6-Train Posted January 16 Share #320 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, RTOMan said: Yet with Full CBTC in effect it could happen though... That's why it won't! No wonder transit enthusiasts like MysticTransit proposed this swap... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted January 17 Share #321 Posted January 17 One positive of keeping the F on 63rd, during the M’s operating hours it allows a one transfer connection to the G for QB local stations. Sending the M on 63rd means that will be a two transfer trip 24/7 as it currently is. additionally, on the base schedule, the M ends service on the QBL rather early. Under normal circumstances, the last M train to depart Forest Hills is the 2027. meaning the F would have to switch over to the other tunnel with the 2032 out of 179. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 17 Author Share #322 Posted January 17 6 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: One positive of keeping the F on 63rd, during the M’s operating hours it allows a one transfer connection to the G for QB local stations. Sending the M on 63rd means that will be a two transfer trip 24/7 as it currently is. additionally, on the base schedule, the M ends service on the QBL rather early. Under normal circumstances, the last M train to depart Forest Hills is the 2027. meaning the F would have to switch over to the other tunnel with the 2032 out of 179. Yeah my bad forgot the Mikey ends early now.. Geez so out of touch with a few things.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 17 Share #323 Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: One positive of keeping the F on 63rd, during the M’s operating hours it allows a one transfer connection to the G for QB local stations. Sending the M on 63rd means that will be a two transfer trip 24/7 as it currently is. additionally, on the base schedule, the M ends service on the QBL rather early. Under normal circumstances, the last M train to depart Forest Hills is the 2027. meaning the F would have to switch over to the other tunnel with the 2032 out of 179. I’m sorry, did you say EIGHT? I know that PM rush is over at Eight-ish, but people still use the subway at the same volume around 9-10 PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted January 17 Author Share #324 Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I’m sorry, did you say EIGHT? I know that PM rush is over at Eight-ish, but people still use the subway at the same volume around 9-10 PM. According to the traffic checkers BACK THEN the ridership wasn't warranted... They might change that tune when this work is done... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted January 17 Share #325 Posted January 17 11 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I’m sorry, did you say EIGHT? I know that PM rush is over at Eight-ish, but people still use the subway at the same volume around 9-10 PM. The used to run until 10:30pm along with the but the nonstop G.O’s especially since the pandemic forced it to end at around 8:30/9pm. If they can keep the on schedule things wouldn’t be so bad but there has been a few times recently where I needed to take the train from Woodhaven Blvd to Forest Hills and the countdown clock would say 20+ minutes for the next with another one being 6-7 minutes behind that one. I just give up and take the Q60. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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