NX Express Posted January 23, 2010 Share #151 Posted January 23, 2010 The makes about 200 stops from Queens to Manhattan. The is a MUCH faster alternative. The is NOT the . 200 stops? Are you on something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 23, 2010 Share #152 Posted January 23, 2010 200 stops? Are you on something? That's almost half the stops in the system! My gosh, those poor crews...and they say the is the Beast...heh...:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted January 23, 2010 Share #153 Posted January 23, 2010 I've ridden the from end to end on a regular basis for work. And I can honestly say whoever is saying that this line is excruciatingly long must have it confused with the local or the . Stop treating the like its as important as having the (2)/(3) on the express tracks along 7th avenue. As far as I'm concerned the is getting an upgrade instead of an axe. Access to Midtown without having to switch all the way downtown is a major upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted January 24, 2010 Share #154 Posted January 24, 2010 You arent listening the and make the same amount of stops when they are doing the skip stop operation... He meant to say that skip-stop service is faster than local service. I had to read his post twice to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted January 24, 2010 Share #155 Posted January 24, 2010 The should not revert to its 90s service pattern of running local via the Montague Tunnel 24/7. The service isn't reverting to that pattern. The new service will operate local between 57th St and Canal St then via the Bridge to/from Brooklyn. It will operate via the tunnel at night as is the case currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted January 24, 2010 Share #156 Posted January 24, 2010 Say, that just reminds me; what happened to the notion of closing the lower Bway/Montague line nights, and running the over the bridge all times? (Since there are nearby lines). That was the drastic desperate cut they were talking about before. Now, it has been forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 24, 2010 Share #157 Posted January 24, 2010 The service isn't reverting to that pattern. The new service will operate local between 57th St and Canal St then via the Bridge to/from Brooklyn. It will operate via the tunnel at night as is the case currently. Right, I know it's not reverting to that pattern. The currently runs that service on weekends when the is not in service. So they're not planning to shut down the stations between City Hall and Lawrence Streets? Well, that's a relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmech Posted January 24, 2010 Share #158 Posted January 24, 2010 Say, that just reminds me; what happened to the notion of closing the lower Bway/Montague line nights, and running the over the bridge all times? (Since there are nearby lines). That was the drastic desperate cut they were talking about before. Now, it has been forgotten. Closing stations = hiring people to close and open the stations, including hunting out stragglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 24, 2010 Share #159 Posted January 24, 2010 But if those stations have 24/7 metrocard booths, then you will just be paying them to watch an 'empty station'. So there's no difference there other than labor to close all the entrance/exits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted January 24, 2010 Share #160 Posted January 24, 2010 The service isn't reverting to that pattern. The new service will operate local between 57th St and Canal St then via the Bridge to/from Brooklyn. It will operate via the tunnel at night as is the case currently. Voila! Here comes permanent congestions to the Broadway Line! Soon the Q would serve no purpose just like the A along the lower 8th Avenue Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmech Posted January 24, 2010 Share #161 Posted January 24, 2010 But if those stations have 24/7 metrocard booths, then you will just be paying them to watch an 'empty station'. So there's no difference there other than labor to close all the entrance/exits. Exactly, and that costs money! Not all of them have 24 hour booths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted January 24, 2010 Share #162 Posted January 24, 2010 Voila! Here comes permanent congestions to the Broadway Line! Soon the Q would serve no purpose just like the A along the lower 8th Avenue Express. Oh please, like there will be a huge difference when the is crossing in front of the at 34th Street than there is when the is crossing in front of the at the same station. You would think there would be LESS congestion since there will only be one express line instead of two. Do your homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 20, 2010 Share #163 Posted February 20, 2010 The Q would actually be more useful because it would be the only express and would actually skip 2 stops at a time. By the way, does anybody know if trains would skip 49th Street? I think that they could if terminating trains were relayed on the tracks north of 57th Street. I think that there would be slightly more congestion because you would have the N merging at Prince Street and the Q merging at Times Square/57th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 20, 2010 Share #164 Posted February 20, 2010 I don't know if they are going to send all Qs to Queens or just enough to cover the loss of the W. But if they are going to terminate select Qs in Queens, I would think they would switch the Q at 34th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concourse Express Posted February 20, 2010 Share #165 Posted February 20, 2010 The Q would actually be more useful because it would be the only express and would actually skip 2 stops at a time. By the way, does anybody know if trains would skip 49th Street? I think that they could if terminating trains were relayed on the tracks north of 57th Street.I think that there would be slightly more congestion because you would have the N merging at Prince Street and the Q merging at Times Square/57th Street. From this document (see page 36), the will stop at 49 St should these cuts go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted February 22, 2010 Share #166 Posted February 22, 2010 heard it from a supt they have the headway already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 22, 2010 Share #167 Posted February 22, 2010 heard it from a supt they have the headway already I heard the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted February 22, 2010 Share #168 Posted February 22, 2010 The R32 set at Fresh Pond Yard is not being used for revenue service. It is being used to break crews in on the secion of track between Broadway- Laffeyete and Essex Street. So it looks like the chances of this happening are high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarbageTruckJuice Posted February 22, 2010 Share #169 Posted February 22, 2010 When was the last time that connection was used? Was it maintained for all these years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 22, 2010 Share #170 Posted February 22, 2010 When was the last time that connection was used? Was it maintained for all these years? Revenue service- 1976. Work trains-probably all the time. Maintained-yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 22, 2010 Share #171 Posted February 22, 2010 heard it from a supt they have the headway already What do you think is a reasonable headway for the line to run? I think it should run more frequently than the current M train (about 6 trains per hour), but less than the current V train (about 9 trains per hour). I always thought that the headways were overkill, considering that there is a 77% chance of finding a seat during rush hour. Even cutting the length of the train would reduce it to only about a 60% chance- higher than many lines. I think maybe 8 trains per hour would be good-the M's ridership would increase, as it would be the only connection to Midtown, especially from Williamsburg, where riders are currently forced to transfer to the F from the J/M/Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted February 22, 2010 Share #172 Posted February 22, 2010 Revenue service- 1976.Work trains-probably all the time. Maintained-yes. Correct, I have been on several trains that have used the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 23, 2010 Share #173 Posted February 23, 2010 The R32 set at Fresh Pond Yard is not being used for revenue service. It is being used to break crews in on the secion of track between Broadway- Laffeyete and Essex Street. So it looks like the chances of this happening are high. Yup, Someone Told me that there was an R32 in the Fresh Pond Yard for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted February 23, 2010 Share #174 Posted February 23, 2010 He tends to over exhagerate. Skip stops saves what? 5-10min at most? People should also get over this 'fear' of the locals. It would probably be just a few minutes longer than the express, but at least you have more space on the train. If I lived along the J and was heading for Lower Manhattan, I'm not going back towards Sutphin to get the E or go to Broadway Junction for the A. Agreed the skip stop or not is the fastest way from Jamaica TO Eastern brooklyn, from Jamaica center to Bway East New York 20 minutes cant beat that I find the ride through Brooklyn quick. The only problem i have with the is i think it needs quicker headways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted February 23, 2010 Share #175 Posted February 23, 2010 What do you think is a reasonable headway for the line to run? I think it should run more frequently than the current M train (about 6 trains per hour), but less than the current V train (about 9 trains per hour). I always thought that the headways were overkill, considering that there is a 77% chance of finding a seat during rush hour. Even cutting the length of the train would reduce it to only about a 60% chance- higher than many lines. I think maybe 8 trains per hour would be good-the M's ridership would increase, as it would be the only connection to Midtown, especially from Williamsburg, where riders are currently forced to transfer to the F from the J/M/Z. I definitely agree that the extension should run more frequently than the current . Is an increase in service possible, or would this cause too much congestion at the Myrtle Ave. junction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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