MTR Admiralty Posted May 16, 2010 Share #176 Posted May 16, 2010 one thing that i see here in the states is that even if we was too try and do things like that and have new up to date things like other country's do like smartcards and 250 mph trains like in japan and even in Germany people here couldnt work together and get it done. they pay for the best in other countrys but here we dont want too pay for anything new or old other countrys pay way more than we do here even if we went up a full buck we wont be paying as much as londen or japan or Germany, i cant ever see the us do things like other places do we just dont have people working together and willing too do what it takes too get it done. they are moving forward and we are almost at a stand still. Erm, you want to include some punctuation? Looks like you were making some valid points, but I can't read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 16, 2010 Share #177 Posted May 16, 2010 Erm, you want to include some punctuation? Looks like you were making some valid points, but I can't read that. i know why that is, i use like a texting grammar so it comes out that way sorry for that, im really used of aim and things where you dont really use that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted May 16, 2010 Author Share #178 Posted May 16, 2010 Here is the updated list as of 05/16/10. Hunts Point Ave. - 23rd St. - http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20041 3rd Ave. - 138th St. - http://www.twitpic.com/1ng8k3 Franklin Ave. - http://www.youtube.com/user/chrisjct#p/u/9/AJ3ERv0NHZk The Bronx Broadway/7th Ave. Line - None (0/3) (excluding Marble Hill) Jerome Line - 170th St. (1/14) White Plains Road Line - will get signs by November 2011 after signal work (0/20) Dyre Ave. line - will not get signs until 2016 after signal work Pelham Line - Buhre Ave., Middletown Rd., Westchester Sq., Zerega Ave., Castle Hill Ave., St. Lawrence Ave., Elder Ave., Hunts Point Ave., Longwood Ave., E. 149th St., E. 143rd St., Cypress Ave., Brook Ave., 3rd Ave. - 138th St. (14/18) Brooklyn Eastern Parkway Line - Bergen St., Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave. (3/9) New Lots Ave. Line - Nostrand Ave., Kingston Ave. (2/10) Nostrand Ave. Line - Sterling St., Newkirk Ave. (2/7) Manhattan Broadway/7th Ave. Line - 157th St., 110th St., 18th St. (3/44, including Marble Hill) Lexington Ave. Line - 28th St., 23rd St., Astor Pl., Canal St. (4/23) Flushing Line - will not get signs until 2016 after CBTC and PA/CIS work 42nd St. Crosstown - None (0/2) Queens Flushing Line - will not get signs until 2016 after CBTC and PA/CIS work Stations with the new screens: 29/150 (not counting Cortlandt St. , Dyre & Flushing lines) Is Hoyt St. up and running yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted May 17, 2010 Share #179 Posted May 17, 2010 Franklin boards have been offline for over a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 17, 2010 Share #180 Posted May 17, 2010 hoyt street is on and working good, ill do a video pn ot today by 5pm. franklin will come back online when they finish the software and atlantic ave is going too be back on some time this week. oh and they may have more jerome ave stations coming on soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 17, 2010 Share #181 Posted May 17, 2010 they are now working on the boards up in the 100s and 200s . all of the stations have them now just not on soft and the hardware is being done overnite. fyi they working on this system only on the weekdays and at nite on the weekdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 17, 2010 Share #182 Posted May 17, 2010 Here is the updated list as of 05/16/10. Hunts Point Ave. - 23rd St. - http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20041 3rd Ave. - 138th St. - http://www.twitpic.com/1ng8k3 Franklin Ave. - http://www.youtube.com/user/chrisjct#p/u/9/AJ3ERv0NHZk The Bronx Broadway/7th Ave. Line - None (0/3) (excluding Marble Hill) Jerome Line - 170th St. (1/14) White Plains Road Line - will get signs by November 2011 after signal work (0/20) Dyre Ave. line - will not get signs until 2016 after signal work Pelham Line - Buhre Ave., Middletown Rd., Westchester Sq., Zerega Ave., Castle Hill Ave., St. Lawrence Ave., Elder Ave., Hunts Point Ave., Longwood Ave., E. 149th St., E. 143rd St., Cypress Ave., Brook Ave., 3rd Ave. - 138th St. (14/18) Brooklyn Eastern Parkway Line - Bergen St., Eastern Pkwy-Brooklyn Museum, Franklin Ave. (3/9) New Lots Ave. Line - Nostrand Ave., Kingston Ave. (2/10) Nostrand Ave. Line - Sterling St., Newkirk Ave. (2/7) Manhattan Broadway/7th Ave. Line - 157th St., 110th St., 18th St. (3/44, including Marble Hill) Lexington Ave. Line - 28th St., 23rd St., Astor Pl., Canal St. (4/23) Flushing Line - will not get signs until 2016 after CBTC and PA/CIS work 42nd St. Crosstown - None (0/2) Queens Flushing Line - will not get signs until 2016 after CBTC and PA/CIS work Stations with the new screens: 29/150 (not counting Cortlandt St. , Dyre & Flushing lines) Is Hoyt St. up and running yet? it is on and working good now ima make a vid soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted May 17, 2010 Share #183 Posted May 17, 2010 Winthrop Street is on only on the Manhattan bound side. Brooklyn College-Flatbush Avenue stop has the boards unwrapped, not online, no automatic annoucements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 17, 2010 Share #184 Posted May 17, 2010 Winthrop Street is on only on the Manhattan bound side. Brooklyn College-Flatbush Avenue stop has the boards unwrapped, not online, no automatic annoucements thank you for that now that one should be on soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted May 17, 2010 Share #185 Posted May 17, 2010 It would be interesting how it would work at Flatbush ave.Because When a train "arrives"it dosen't usually leave right away.I wonder if they will replace the word "arrive" with "depart". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted May 17, 2010 Share #186 Posted May 17, 2010 thank you for that now that one should be on soon Ha, I doubt it, it will be soon. The pace is slowass. The working board on which platform for the or on first to depart still works on most of the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted May 18, 2010 Share #187 Posted May 18, 2010 28th Street on the is up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 18, 2010 Share #188 Posted May 18, 2010 You can update it again, 138th Street Mott Haven on the Jerome line has it. Saw it over the weekend. Gonna make a video soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted May 18, 2010 Share #189 Posted May 18, 2010 It would be interesting how it would work at Flatbush ave.Because When a train "arrives"it dosen't usually leave right away.I wonder if they will replace the word "arrive" with "depart". It would be pointless to use them at any terminals other than for NEXT TRAIN displays. Why would you need a countdown when you already know when it's leaving based on starting lights? It's a lot more accurate than a series of sound bytes for each word explaining that it's ready to leave a minute after it already left. Also, those old red electronic signs that beep when the train is approaching are probably a fraction of the cost and are a lot more useful. Sure they don't give you a timeframe, but a stations which have them you can usually chill in a mezzanine and go down to the platform when you see/hear the sign. The stupidity of the countdown clocks is how many people are going to see the train isn't coming for another 20 mins and actually leave the station after having just paid the fare? That would only work if the displays are visible outside of fare control and in many cases I don't believe they are. Even so, probably a small minority of people who would actually refer to them for that and sure isn't worth the cost. It also seems like they've installed them primarily in either lightly used stations or stations frequent service at most times, like the 6. Nostrand and Kingston on the 3? Why would those stations get them ahead of Borough Hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted May 18, 2010 Share #190 Posted May 18, 2010 Here is mines I took yesterday. I even saw it at SB Astor Place today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 18, 2010 Share #191 Posted May 18, 2010 It would be pointless to use them at any terminals other than for NEXT TRAIN displays. Why would you need a countdown when you already know when it's leaving based on starting lights? It's a lot more accurate than a series of sound bytes for each word explaining that it's ready to leave a minute after it already left. Also, those old red electronic signs that beep when the train is approaching are probably a fraction of the cost and are a lot more useful. Sure they don't give you a timeframe, but a stations which have them you can usually chill in a mezzanine and go down to the platform when you see/hear the sign. The stupidity of the countdown clocks is how many people are going to see the train isn't coming for another 20 mins and actually leave the station after having just paid the fare? That would only work if the displays are visible outside of fare control and in many cases I don't believe they are. Even so, probably a small minority of people who would actually refer to them for that and sure isn't worth the cost. It also seems like they've installed them primarily in either lightly used stations or stations frequent service at most times, like the 6. Nostrand and Kingston on the 3? Why would those stations get them ahead of Borough Hall? you should see what we do up here in the bronx being thatwe have had them for a wiles now, we love them we don't look into the dark tunnel we sit down and wait for the train like they do on the MNR OR LIRR. and it also tells you what's going on in the system other than the countdown check out my videos on YouTube i show it all. its so sad too keep seeing people not like this sysytem, because other countrys have all this already and we, like years behind why do this country hate change so much? this helps us do much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 18, 2010 Share #192 Posted May 18, 2010 i have a problem why do people keep saying there isn't a countdown board outside the fare area. they don't see them outside at the stations that work? every station that work hve them outside the fare area so if you want too see them before you pay its there for you i even show it on my vids so check them out on youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted May 18, 2010 Share #193 Posted May 18, 2010 i have a problem why do people keep saying there isn't a countdown board outside the fare area. they don't see them outside at the stations that work? every station that work hve them outside the fare area so if you want too see them before you pay its there for you i even show it on my vids so check them out on youtube A good amount of skepticism comes from the arrival board setup on the 14th St-Canarsie Line. There are a number of stations on the that don't have any boards visible from outside the farezone. I hop on the from 3rd Ave to 8th Ave about twice a week, and it'd be nice to know if the train will get me there faster than a crosstown bus. With that said, I do have faith that the MTA won't make the same mistake on the IRT. (Yes, "faith" and "the MTA" are in the same sentence. :cool:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 18, 2010 Share #194 Posted May 18, 2010 A good amount of skepticism comes from the arrival board setup on the 14th St-Canarsie Line. There are a number of stations on the that don't have any boards visible from outside the farezone. I hop on the from 3rd Ave to 8th Ave about twice a week, and it'd be nice to know if the train will get me there faster than a crosstown bus. With that said, I do have faith that the MTA won't make the same mistake on the IRT. (Yes, "faith" and "the MTA" are in the same sentence. :cool:) yea i know on the L some don't have it but all or the IRT stations have them on the fare area, and all of the ones at the fare area tell you the trains coming in both directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted May 18, 2010 Share #195 Posted May 18, 2010 yea i know on the L some don't have it but all or the IRT stations have them on the fare area, and all of the ones at the fare area tell you the trains coming in both directions. These stations do not have them in the fare area Sterling street(2) President st(2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted May 18, 2010 Share #196 Posted May 18, 2010 These stations do not have them in the fare area Sterling street(2) President st(2) they will they don't have them because some stations have too wait for more, they ran out of the boards so they have more coming in now so some of the stations that didn't have them do now like all of the white plans line and sure ave line have them. and 161st have them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share #197 Posted May 18, 2010 It would be pointless to use them at any terminals other than for NEXT TRAIN displays. Why would you need a countdown when you already know when it's leaving based on starting lights? It's a lot more accurate than a series of sound bytes for each word explaining that it's ready to leave a minute after it already left. Also, those old red electronic signs that beep when the train is approaching are probably a fraction of the cost and are a lot more useful. Sure they don't give you a timeframe, but a stations which have them you can usually chill in a mezzanine and go down to the platform when you see/hear the sign. The stupidity of the countdown clocks is how many people are going to see the train isn't coming for another 20 mins and actually leave the station after having just paid the fare? That would only work if the displays are visible outside of fare control and in many cases I don't believe they are. Even so, probably a small minority of people who would actually refer to them for that and sure isn't worth the cost. It also seems like they've installed them primarily in either lightly used stations or stations frequent service at most times, like the 6. Nostrand and Kingston on the 3? Why would those stations get them ahead of Borough Hall? Most of the riders have some form of an unlimited Metrocard so they wouldn't mind. Also, all of the IRT stations will have the countdown clocks outside the fare control so it wouldn't be a problem anyway. Also, they are opening them up based on which stations finish the software/hardware installation first. It's a moot point since at least 100 stations will have them up and running by the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted May 19, 2010 Share #198 Posted May 19, 2010 they will they don't have them because some stations have too wait for more, they ran out of the boards so they have more coming in now so some of the stations that didn't have them do now like all of the white plans line and sure ave line have them. and 161st have them now. Sure Avenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted May 19, 2010 Share #199 Posted May 19, 2010 they will they don't have them because some stations have too wait for more, they ran out of the boards so they have more coming in now so some of the stations that didn't have them do now like all of the white plans line and sure ave line have them. and 161st have them now. Do you mean Buhre Av ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted May 19, 2010 Share #200 Posted May 19, 2010 I have seen some countdown clocks in stations, like 157st(1), Nevins St(2), 145st(A)©platform only, 168st(A), some station along the(6), some station along the(1) loc stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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